AFL reaches in-principle agreement with Tasmania for 19th team

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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 65691

    #76
    Re: AFL reaches in-principle agreement with Tasmania for 19th team

    Originally posted by DOG GOD
    And this is the thing Bornadog. I live in Launceston and I could not be bothered driving 2.5 hours to Hobart to watch Tassie vs Freo with 12,000 others in a stadium that?s half full. I?ve spoken to friends about this and they all agree with me. It?s a complete waste of money. And the last thing the AFL needs is another team to thin the talent pool out even more, where very mediocre VFL/league players are going to be on AFL lists just to fill them. I?m expecting Tassie draft concessions to be that of GWS where they get 7 of the top 10 picks for their first 3 years or so.

    Yes, people have got onboard the Jack jumpers and crowds have been good, but it?s a basketball court?bit different to an AFL stadium.
    The AFL are being pricks in insisting a new stadium be built before they would allow a Tassie team.

    Why not upgrade Hobart and Launceston and play 5, 6 games in each. It would be cheaper, and satisfy the North/South divide.
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    • DOG GOD
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jul 2007
      • 6351

      #77
      Re: AFL reaches in-principle agreement with Tasmania for 19th team

      Originally posted by bornadog
      The AFL are being pricks in insisting a new stadium be built before they would allow a Tassie team.

      Why not upgrade Hobart and Launceston and play 5, 6 games in each. It would be cheaper, and satisfy the North/South divide.
      Absolutely. The new Perth stadium didn’t have to have a roof.
      The Launceston ground has one of the best surfaces in the AFL.
      Part of me thought Gil’s demand for a new stadium was a way of killing off the Tassie bid.
      I will never see #16 the same!!

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      • Grantysghost
        Bouncing Strong
        • Apr 2010
        • 18779

        #78
        Re: AFL reaches in-principle agreement with Tasmania for 19th team

        That's interesting DG.

        How do you think it could work?

        I'm not sure why they're insisting on a new stadium either.
        BT COME BACK!​

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        • azabob
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2008
          • 15155

          #79
          Re: AFL reaches in-principle agreement with Tasmania for 19th team

          Originally posted by DOG GOD
          Absolutely. The new Perth stadium didn?t have to have a roof.
          The Launceston ground has one of the best surfaces in the AFL.
          Part of me thought Gil?s demand for a new stadium was a way of killing off the Tassie bid.
          Doesn't Tassie have some of the best soil and growing conditions in the country?

          PS, DG; would you drive 2.5 hours to watch the dogs v tassie?
          More of an In Bruges guy?

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 65691

            #80
            Re: AFL reaches in-principle agreement with Tasmania for 19th team

            I wonder if a lot of players would think like this

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            • Grantysghost
              Bouncing Strong
              • Apr 2010
              • 18779

              #81
              Re: AFL reaches in-principle agreement with Tasmania for 19th team

              Originally posted by bornadog
              I wonder if a lot of players would think like this

              Makes sense the afl is trying to give clubs more facility to trade players against their wishes.
              BT COME BACK!​

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 43989

                #82
                Re: AFL reaches in-principle agreement with Tasmania for 19th team

                Originally posted by Sedat
                Tasmania at least is a full state, not some isolated regional marginal electorate, and being a brand new stadium it will at least provide an incremental asset to the entire community that didn't previously exist, and not be just some plaything for AFEL. But gee there are incredible amounts of tax-payer funds every year by all 'shades' of politics (they are all the same shade of turd IMO) thrown at organisations that are already filthy rich. Begs the question why we all bother paying tax when we don't get any say as to where our money is spent. Kerry Packer might have been a ruthless, greedy businessman but he was bang-on the money when he told Senate Estimates all those years ago that every Australian should tax-minimise as much as possible because the money is only wasted by those in charge.
                I hate the way money is wasted in this country on Government projects that you can almost guarantee will blow by 30 to 40%.
                You absolutely need to build things but until Governments learn how to deliver them close to being on time and on budget they shouldn't be flippant with tax payers money.
                Tassie deserve a a team and a stadium but the costs being projected are excessive to say the least.

                I don't agree it's as simple of splitting games between Hobart and Launceston as BAD and BG suggest either as no team should have two home bases so far apart.
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                • DOG GOD
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 6351

                  #83
                  Re: AFL reaches in-principle agreement with Tasmania for 19th team

                  Originally posted by azabob
                  Doesn't Tassie have some of the best soil and growing conditions in the country?

                  PS, DG; would you drive 2.5 hours to watch the dogs v tassie?
                  Yes I would Azabob. I’ve flown to Melb to see the dogs, so would certainly drive to Hobart to see the dogs. I’m sure every Tassie AFL fan would hug a Tassie team as their 2nd team, but when push comes to shove, what % of those would actually support the team with their feet and not just their mouths.
                  I will never see #16 the same!!

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                  • bulldogsthru&thru
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • May 2011
                    • 7662

                    #84
                    Re: AFL reaches in-principle agreement with Tasmania for 19th team

                    Team would start 2027 apparently. We don't want to be bottoming out between then and 2030.

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                    • Sedat
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 11061

                      #85
                      Re: AFL reaches in-principle agreement with Tasmania for 19th team

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      I hate the way money is wasted in this country on Government projects that you can almost guarantee will blow by 30 to 40%.
                      You absolutely need to build things but until Governments learn how to deliver them close to being on time and on budget they shouldn't be flippant with tax payers money.
                      Tassie deserve a a team and a stadium but the costs being projected are excessive to say the least.

                      I don't agree it's as simple of splitting games between Hobart and Launceston as BAD and BG suggest either as no team should have two home bases so far apart.
                      Hence why I despise and have utter contempt for all politicians without exception - it's all too easy spending other people's hard-earned money.
                      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                      • lemmon
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 6442

                        #86
                        Re: AFL reaches in-principle agreement with Tasmania for 19th team

                        Originally posted by DOG GOD
                        And this is the thing Bornadog. I live in Launceston and I could not be bothered driving 2.5 hours to Hobart to watch Tassie vs Freo with 12,000 others in a stadium that?s half full. I?ve spoken to friends about this and they all agree with me. It?s a complete waste of money, and the last thing the AFL needs is another team to thin the talent pool out even more, where very mediocre VFL/league players are going to be on AFL lists just to fill them. I?m expecting Tassie draft concessions to be that of GWS where they get 7 of the top 10 picks for their first 3 years or so.

                        Yes, people have got onboard the Jack jumpers and crowds have been good, but it?s a basketball court. A bit different to an AFL stadium.
                        I live in Launnie as well and feel the same way about the stadium.

                        I'm excited for the state to have a side, but the better outcome would've been improving and using what's already there, not wasting money on another stadium.

                        The state's hospitals and schools could desperately use a chunk of that funding.

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                        • bulldogsthru&thru
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • May 2011
                          • 7662

                          #87
                          Re: AFL reaches in-principle agreement with Tasmania for 19th team

                          Originally posted by DOG GOD
                          Yes I would Azabob. I’ve flown to Melb to see the dogs, so would certainly drive to Hobart to see the dogs. I’m sure every Tassie AFL fan would hug a Tassie team as their 2nd team, but when push comes to shove, what % of those would actually support the team with their feet and not just their mouths.
                          That's what intrigues be most DG. How many serious AFL fans in Tassie already have a team they support and how many of them would switch to a new Tassie team? I can't imagine you'd switch from the dogs.

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                          • SquirrelGrip
                            Senior Player
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 1466

                            #88
                            Re: AFL reaches in-principle agreement with Tasmania for 19th team

                            Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                            That's what intrigues be most DG. How many serious AFL fans in Tassie already have a team they support and how many of them would switch to a new Tassie team? I can't imagine you'd switch from the dogs.
                            That's what they said in every other non-Victorian state before they had AFL teams too. It won't be an issue and supporters will still have a "second" team.
                            "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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                            • bulldogsthru&thru
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • May 2011
                              • 7662

                              #89
                              Re: AFL reaches in-principle agreement with Tasmania for 19th team

                              Originally posted by SquirrelGrip
                              That's what they said in every other non-Victorian state before they had AFL teams too. It won't be an issue and supporters will still have a "second" team.
                              But which team will be the "second" team for most people? I don't think a Tasmanian team can survive if most fans have it as their "second" team.

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 65691

                                #90
                                Re: AFL reaches in-principle agreement with Tasmania for 19th team

                                Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                                But which team will be the "second" team for most people? I don't think a Tasmanian team can survive if most fans have it as their "second" team.
                                I think you will find the Tassie team will be well supported
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