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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    Re: Western Bulldogs accused of wasting golden era

    Originally posted by Bullies
    Interesting listening to Mitch Wallis saying we can't rely on our bottom 10 players in games when the game turns.

    In the past our bottom 6 were part of the clubs strong attributes towards winning the flag.
    Originally posted by hujsh
    Chas and Tom Boyd said the same on Danny/Boyd
    Sound arguments for turning over nearly 10 players on the list then. If our role players are being called out by recent former teammates/big names at the club for not being able to play their roles, then perhaps it’s time to find some other players who might.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • bulldogsthru&thru
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • May 2011
      • 7719

      Re: Western Bulldogs accused of wasting golden era

      Originally posted by Bullies
      Interesting listening to Mitch Wallis saying we can't rely on our bottom 10 players in games when the game turns.

      In the past our bottom 6 were part of the clubs strong attributes towards winning the flag.
      Was this said generally though? As in, a clubs stars need to control momentum when games turn and you shouldn't be relying on the bottom 10 guys?

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      • Grantysghost
        Bouncing Strong
        • Apr 2010
        • 18979

        Re: Western Bulldogs accused of wasting golden era

        Originally posted by Bullies
        Interesting listening to Mitch Wallis saying we can't rely on our bottom 10 players in games when the game turns.

        In the past our bottom 6 were part of the clubs strong attributes towards winning the flag.
        Mitch said the same last year right
        BT COME BACK!​

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        • Grantysghost
          Bouncing Strong
          • Apr 2010
          • 18979

          Re: Western Bulldogs accused of wasting golden era

          Originally posted by hujsh
          Chas and Tom Boyd said the same on Danny/Boyd
          Did you understand his run home scenarios! Ha, I needed to play it at half speed.
          BT COME BACK!​

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          • Bullies
            WOOF Member
            • Sep 2014
            • 1807

            Re: Western Bulldogs accused of wasting golden era

            Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
            Was this said generally though? As in, a clubs stars need to control momentum when games turn and you shouldn't be relying on the bottom 10 guys?
            I would have thought it was meant that it was time for them to stand up and show a bit when needed like a lot of the supporters think.

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            • mjp
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 7375

              Re: Western Bulldogs accused of wasting golden era

              Originally posted by Grantysghost
              Did you understand his run home scenarios! Ha, I needed to play it at half speed.
              How funny was it...

              The guest whose name I've forgotten gave me visions of Joe Pesci in the Lethal Weapon flicks..
              What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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              • Grantysghost
                Bouncing Strong
                • Apr 2010
                • 18979

                Re: Western Bulldogs accused of wasting golden era

                Originally posted by mjp
                How funny was it...

                The guest whose name I've forgotten gave me visions of Joe Pesci in the Lethal Weapon flicks..
                Chas Licciardello from Chaser fame.
                BT COME BACK!​

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                • mjp
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 7375

                  Re: Western Bulldogs accused of wasting golden era

                  Originally posted by Grantysghost
                  Chas Licciardello from Chaser fame.
                  In any case...I just had this flashback to Pesci saying "Ok-ok-ok-ok" as he was trying to explain to Mel Gibson how money laundering worked. "And this is the best bit - you claim an income tax deduction on interest payments you NEVER MAKE"...

                  "...and it all comes down to THIS WEEK. If we beat Essendon, then I can't see how we miss out...".

                  It really is an entertaining podcast and the guys have pulled the right rein with recent guests.
                  What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34289

                    Re: Western Bulldogs accused of wasting golden era

                    Originally posted by Rocket Science
                    The troubling lack of depth and an inability to competently develop new recruits who aren't freakish talents into reliable regulars is a recurring theme and there's few things more miserable than match committee threads that necessarily devolve into a regurgitation of the same handful of reheated candidates who neither deserve, demand, nor seize a spot. Our last 4-6 picked feels like it's been a fruitless revolving door for some time now.

                    Digressing, expectation is a cursed thing but barring an epiphany it's hard to argue against an epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'.
                    So right.
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • azabob
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15326

                      Re: Western Bulldogs accused of wasting golden era

                      Interesting comments from David King from the weekends game.

                      Honestly I thought we would steady at three quarter time and win by 2-3 goals.

                      More of an In Bruges guy?

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                      • G-Mo77
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9876

                        Re: Western Bulldogs accused of wasting golden era

                        Originally posted by azabob
                        Interesting comments from David King from the weekends game.

                        Honestly I thought we would steady at three quarter time and win by 2-3 goals.

                        https://content.jwplatform.com/previews/sz3nENRF
                        So did I, with that wind I thought we'd be fine. I think I predicted 5 goals at 3 quarter time in the Match Day thread. Never looked like it until the last 5 minutes.

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                        • Grantysghost
                          Bouncing Strong
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 18979

                          Re: Western Bulldogs accused of wasting golden era

                          He failed to mention the two kpds down.

                          Take Taylor and Himmelberg away for a half and it's probably a dogs win.
                          Criticism is fine but the context needs to be involved.
                          BT COME BACK!​

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66785

                            Re: Western Bulldogs accused of wasting golden era

                            Originally posted by azabob
                            Interesting comments from David King from the weekends game.

                            Honestly I thought we would steady at three quarter time and win by 2-3 goals.

                            https://content.jwplatform.com/previews/sz3nENRF
                            I listened to that this morning and I was disappointed he didn't analyse the game better. All he could think of was Naughton should have gone back instead of Lobb. He failed to address the fact that we had no forward pressure at all and the ball came out quickly and went straight down the ground for GWS to goal.

                            In the last there were 16 inside 50s each and we didn't create one stoppage to give us a chance of scoring.

                            Our Fwd 50 tackles were 7 for the game to 22 for GWS. What the hell were West (2), VDM (1), and Weightman (0) doing. Naughton (0) last year was top 5 to 10 for tackles inside 50.

                            He also just dismissed the fact two key players went down and upset the whole team structure. Do better King - #norespect
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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66785

                              Re: Western Bulldogs accused of wasting golden era

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              I listened to that this morning and I was disappointed he didn't analyse the game better. All he could think of was Naughton should have gone back instead of Lobb. He failed to address the fact that we had no forward pressure at all and the ball came out quickly and went straight down the ground for GWS to goal.

                              In the last there were 16 inside 50s each and we didn't create one stoppage to give us a chance of scoring.

                              Our Fwd 50 tackles were 7 for the game to 22 for GWS. What the hell were West (2), VDM (1), and Weightman (0) doing. Naughton (0) last year was top 5 to 10 for tackles inside 50.

                              He also just dismissed the fact two key players went down and upset the whole team structure. Do better King - #norespect
                              Kings response to me re above:

                              we don’t analyse each and every game. We pick the discussion pieces of interest and I thought the Naughton & Greene roles were significant. Club reviews aren’t our thing. Sorry to disappoint
                              FFC: Established 1883

                              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                              • jeemak
                                Bulldog Legend
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 21838

                                Re: Western Bulldogs accused of wasting golden era

                                So they just say the most inflammatory thing they can in the shortest period of time to generate the biggest bang for buck.
                                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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