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  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 18972

    The stunning statistic behind the Bulldogs? recent inconsistency

    The stunning statistic behind the Bulldogs recent inconsistency

    By Nic Negrepontis



    The Western Bulldogs on paper have stars all over the field, but, over the last six weeks, they only have one player who is in the top 40 kicks in the competition.

    The deep dive comes following the Dogs shock loss to Hawthorn on the weekend, which has left their finals hopes teetering.
    Champion Data's Daniel Hoyne has revealed that if you can shut down the Dogs at clearance, they cant hurt you.

    I just want to talk about their ball-use as a team and then the individual players, Hoyne told SENs Sportsday.
    Over the last six weeks they are using the ball by foot the second worst of any team in the competition.

    As a result of that, their inability to use the ball effectively is putting so much pressure on their clearance game.
    If they don't win clearance and the ball goes back the other way and theyre starting from the back half, because they are using the ball so poorly, they are no threat to you offensively

    Over the last six weeks they've only scored 60 points from their D50, 16th in the competition. This is why the clearance game is so important to them.

    Hawthorn took that away from them on the weekend, and they only won the clearances by six, then the Dogs have nothing to throw back at you because when they do actually win the ball, they simply can't use it.

    Caleb Daniel, colloquially discussed as one of the best kicks in the competition, has been particularly poor over the last six weeks.
    So, Bailey Dale is the exception. He is a top-40 rated kick in the competition over the last six weeks. Hes the only Bulldogs in the top 40,Hoyne added.

    Caleb Daniel its amazing the drop-off in his ball-use. He struggled to win the ball against Hawthorn and GWS, but even when he does win it, there's none of that creativity that hes been renowned for.

    Hes kicking eight per cent below expectation. Adam Treloar is seven per cent below expectation. Aaron Naughton is kicking four per cent below expectation.

    If this aspect doesn't improve for the Dogs in the next fortnight, Id be very surprised if they're able to beat Geelong in Round 24.
    The Bulldogs host the lowly West Coast this weekend in a chance to get their season back on track.
    Last edited by Grantysghost; 16-08-2023, 12:44 PM.
    BT COME BACK!​
  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 18972

    #2
    Re: The stunning statistic behind the Bulldogs? recent inconsistency

    To me this highlights JJ and his importance back off the HB line.

    We can't generate scores from anywhere but stoppage. Shut that down we are in trouble.

    JJ gives us that extra outlet from D50 so we can generate scores from that source.

    Have to hand it to Mitchell, that was next level coaching research .
    BT COME BACK!​

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    • Bullies
      Senior Player
      • Sep 2014
      • 1807

      #3
      Re: The stunning statistic behind the Bulldogs? recent inconsistency

      Highlights the reason we need a good "tap" ruckman to give us clean ball use out of the middle and around the stoppages. We do have one as well.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66774

        #4
        Re: The stunning statistic behind the Bulldogs? recent inconsistency

        Originally posted by Bullies
        Highlights the reason we need a good "tap" ruckman to give us clean ball use out of the middle and around the stoppages. We do have one as well.
        Yep we have one Tim English
        FFC: Established 1883

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        • MrMahatma
          Coaching Staff
          • Sep 2007
          • 3966

          #5
          Re: The stunning statistic behind the Bulldogs? recent inconsistency

          Prob puts the spotlight back on the players rather than the coach a bit.

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          • BornInDroopSt'54
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2009
            • 5269

            #6
            Re: The stunning statistic behind the Bulldogs? recent inconsistency

            Wow seems that sums us up.
            Shithouse kickers. I did not realise.
            Footscray Football Republic.

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            • jeemak
              Bulldog Legend
              • Oct 2010
              • 21836

              #7
              Re: The stunning statistic behind the Bulldogs? recent inconsistency

              Is everyone else stunned?

              I thought we'd been cutting defences up with ball use and that Caleb had been ripping it apart these past few weeks.

              ****en stunned I am.
              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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              • azabob
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2008
                • 15323

                #8
                Re: The stunning statistic behind the Bulldogs? recent inconsistency

                Originally posted by jeemak
                Is everyone else stunned?

                I thought we'd been cutting defences up with ball use and that Caleb had been ripping it apart these past few weeks.

                ****en stunned I am.
                I'm more stunned that if you shut down us down at clearance we a proper f**ked.
                More of an In Bruges guy?

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66774

                  #9
                  Re: The stunning statistic behind the Bulldogs? recent inconsistency

                  Not sure if anyone heard Brenton Sanderson yesterday doing his analysis on the Dogs and why we have lost so many close games. Worth listening too.

                  You would need to scroll through this: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5XU0Onw8hAy68NZSRHl9Z3
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • azabob
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 15323

                    #10
                    Re: The stunning statistic behind the Bulldogs? recent inconsistency

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Not sure if anyone heard Brenton Sanderson yesterday doing his analysis on the Dogs and why we have lost so many close games. Worth listening too.

                    You would need to scroll through this: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5XU0Onw8hAy68NZSRHl9Z3
                    For fear of being indirectly smashed, this is a bloody good listen.

                    Thanks for sharing BAD.
                    More of an In Bruges guy?

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                    • jeemak
                      Bulldog Legend
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 21836

                      #11
                      Re: The stunning statistic behind the Bulldogs? recent inconsistency

                      At what time of the podcast does it kick in?
                      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                      • azabob
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 15323

                        #12
                        Re: The stunning statistic behind the Bulldogs? recent inconsistency

                        Originally posted by jeemak
                        At what time of the podcast does it kick in?
                        Fifteen minute mark.
                        More of an In Bruges guy?

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66774

                          #13
                          Re: The stunning statistic behind the Bulldogs? recent inconsistency

                          Originally posted by azabob
                          For fear of being indirectly smashed, this is a bloody good listen.

                          Thanks for sharing BAD.
                          Love his work, he is positive and points out the deficiencies without saying stupid things like Bucks (Called some players flaky - what does that even mean)
                          FFC: Established 1883

                          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                          • Grantysghost
                            Bouncing Strong
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 18972

                            #14
                            Re: The stunning statistic behind the Bulldogs? recent inconsistency

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            Love his work, he is positive and points out the deficiencies without saying stupid things like Bucks (Called some players flaky - what does that even mean)
                            It was very good. Thanks BAD.
                            BT COME BACK!​

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                            • jeemak
                              Bulldog Legend
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 21836

                              #15
                              Re: The stunning statistic behind the Bulldogs? recent inconsistency

                              Really good point about Adam Treloar and generally going outside of the system and trying to be the one to win the game due to win the game by "doing" something.

                              I feel Libba does that as well.
                              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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