Mr September? How Ugle-Hagan can be like Buddy

[josie]

Re: Mr September? How Ugle-Hagan can be like Buddy

He's not going to peak for another 2-3 seasons, he'll be fine.

Had a mare but I'm sure he'll learn from it.

I want him to succeed soooo much. How many key forwards improve their goal kicking over their career? I’m fearing Marra’s may not markedly improve and that’s what needs to be addressed (the consistency and repeat efforts I am reasonably confident will improve).

[D Mitchell]

Re: Mr September? How Ugle-Hagan can be like Buddy

His body language most of the time stinks. He misses a sitter, has a little laugh.
He needs a rocket up his arse for a massive pre season, plus a really good kicking coach.
When things don?t go his way he?s like a grade 8 sook.
Am I being harsh ? Probably.
But I think his bad games warrant it.

When do we get to see better...doesn't matter, my gripe is with apologists rather than the lad himself.

[The bulldog tragician]

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Anyone remember Jeremy Cameron’s ghastly early finals performances?

Marra didn’t have a great night, some of the delivery was poor, he went back to an old bad habit of flying for unrealistic speccies, but he is young, with lots of improvement he’d.

[macca]

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I want him to succeed soooo much. How many key forwards improve their goal kicking over their career? I’m fearing Marra’s may not markedly improve and that’s what needs to be addressed (the consistency and repeat efforts I am reasonably confident will improve).

Casboult did and he had help from one of the Rocca brothers

[1eyedog]

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When do we get to see better...doesn't matter, my gripe is with apologists rather than the lad himself.

Lol there's no apologists here. Not one poster on here has said they're happy with where he's at. He certainly has his flaws and challenge areas that he needs to work on.

Give me a handfull or even two 22 year old or younger key forwards in the system who are out-stripping Jamarra at the moment if you're counting the rudimetary stat of pure games to goals? Tilthorpe? No. Georgiadis? No. van Rooyen? No. Koschitzke? No. Harrison Jones? No. Aaron Cadman? No. If Jamarra kicks straight his number are absolutely unbelievable.

Give him time is all some of us on here are saying but I guess some are more impatient, and mark far harder, than others and that's fine, each to their own.

I'll wait for your suggestion for an under 22 key forward who is currently doing it better and who has already won games off his own boot btw.

I can absolutely tell you he's no where near the 1m mark btw.

[Hotdog60]

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I think he needs a psychiatrist in a interview he had he stated his concentration drifts.

[D Mitchell]

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Lol there's no apologists here. Not one poster on here has said they're happy with where he's at. He certainly has his flaws and challenge areas that he needs to work on.

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OED Apologist = a person who offers an argument in defence of something controversial.

Comparing the stats of players from other clubs isn't any sort of a response. The giveaway is your ""If Jamarra kicks straight..." Ugle-Hagan doesn't, didn't last night when we really needed it.. I don't care about Tilthorpe, Kidman, Georgiadis, I care about 4 years development into a no 1 draft pick, touted as the next Franklin, who, by the way, kicked 113 goals in his 4th year. This bloke is, at best, 3rd choice tall forward, started on the bench last night. In most clubs, he doesn't get a game, Be realistic..

[D Mitchell]

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I think he needs a psychiatrist in a interview he had he stated his concentration drifts.

Realistically, he needs time in the VFL to demonstrate whether, or not, he can make it as an AFL player.

[D Mitchell]

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[b]I want him to succeed soooo much[/]b. How many key forwards improve their goal kicking over their career? I.....

I feel your pain by why ? Footy's about players succeeding, contributing, but ultimately about winning Flags, along the way, finals. I really wanted Minson and Wallis to be part of the 2016, particularly Wally. Much happier with the Flag, than a losing team with Minson and Wallis named.

[Bornadog]

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Realistically, he needs time in the VFL to demonstrate whether, or not, he can make it as an AFL player.

Anyone that can kick 43 goals in AFL football and have 78 shots has already shown they can make an AFL player.

He needs to improve his goal kicking and some of his general play.

[D Mitchell]

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Anyone remember Jeremy Cameron’s ghastly early finals performances?

Marra didn’t have a great night, some of the delivery was poor, he went back to an old bad habit of flying for unrealistic speccies, but he is young, with lots of improvement he’d.

How many times have we seen this response ? 4 years is long enough, in this day and age in particular, look at Dear, 2 years younger.

[Sedat]

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Anyone that can kick 43 goals in AFL football and have 78 shots has already shown they can make an AFL player.

He needs to improve his goal kicking and some of his general play.

The Carlton game should be the standard for him. That night Weitering destroyed him in the 1st half but he kept presenting and found a way to be impactful in the 2nd half, to the extent that he became thr match-winner.

Amartey couldn't get near it all day today, but he kept presenting, he impacted through tackling and defensive efforts, and he got his moment late and took it.

[jeemak]

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Realistically, he needs time in the VFL to demonstrate whether, or not, he can make it as an AFL player.

Mate there's no club in the land who doesn't take a bottom aged fourth year player who can do what Marra can do.

The Sydney game was a pressure game for us, we needed to win that to keep our season alive. Can't recall too many livid people after that one, can you?

He didn't have a good night last night. But for a key forward of his age as 1ED says, he's going very well.

[D Mitchell]

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[QUOTE=bornadog;927129]Anyone that can kick 43 goals in AFL football and have 78 shots has already shown they can make an AFL player.

. It confirms what we saw last night, can't kick straight - a key forward. OK for a 3rd. 4th string but for a 1st pick, Franklin clone ? If you set low expectations, that's the best you'll get.

[jeemak]

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[QUOTE=D Mitchell;927133]

Anyone that can kick 43 goals in AFL football and have 78 shots has already shown they can make an AFL player.

. It confirms what we saw last night, can't kick straight - a key forward. OK for a 3rd. 4th string but for a 1st pick, Franklin clone ? If you set low expectations, that's the best you'll get.

Because if a black fella kinda looks like another black fella (even though he looks nothing like him) he's a clone? I hate that lazy and pretty much racist comparison.