Umpires to crack down on hand gestures

[AndrewP6]

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Why? Because a suspension's genuinely deserved for his heinous crime?...or because he's a Pies player? What if it was Boyd, or Johnno?...Give 'em a week and cop it sweet you reckon?

Give me a freakin break.

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Whoa, simmer down... just trying to have a little humour at Shaw's expense... I admit, I don't much like him (or the Pies)... if the same happened to any of our boys I'd be p****d off too. It was a ridiculous over-reaction...

[Rocket Science]

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Well it would, that's where there's the most players in a small area.

Exactly, congestion punctuated with man-on-man contests breaking in all directions.

[Rocket Science]

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Whoa, simmer down... just trying to have a little humour at Shaw's expense... I admit, I don't much like him (or the Pies)... if the same happened to any of our boys I'd be p****d off too. It was a ridiculous over-reaction...

Fair enough, the footy world rightly rejoices when misfortune befalls the Pies but the ire wasn't really aimed in your direction so much as those influencing the state of the game.

[AndrewP6]

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Fair enough, the footy world rightly rejoices when misfortune befalls the Pies but the ire wasn't really aimed in your direction so much as those influencing the state of the game.

just off topic, what does "l'enfer, c'est les autres" mean? I know les autres means "the others" or something similar..,

[hujsh]

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just off topic, what does "l'enfer, c'est les autres" mean? I know les autres means "the others" or something similar..,

Quick Google search indicates that it is "Hell is other people."

[Rocket Science]

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'Huis-clos' (No Exit) is a 1944 existentialist play by Jean-Paul Sartre, which is the source of perhaps Sartre's most famous quotation, "l'enfer, c'est les autres" (Hell is other people).

It's incidentally only a partial quote, the full line actually reads "Hell is other people, and a game of footy marred by the hands in the back rule."

[LostDoggy]

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I think touching the umpire should be a free and so should insulting and aggressive behavior to the umpire. You can disagree with their decision being poor but they are the authority of the game and must be respected.

Its hardly their fault rules commitee make changes and add new one to a game which needs too many decision too often. No wonder they get it wrong so often. It doesn't help when your boss Gieschen is an idiot and you have 3 central umps all with different interpretations.

[LostDoggy]

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I just like to add to my comments, touching the ump is different to accidently contact with is almost inevitable in today's football. They are very precious over this.

[LostDoggy]

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And hand gestures? Surely a quiet word is all that is needed unless it is by a repeat or recalcitrant offender.

Our umps need a lesson in leadership and authority -- they will be respected when they behave like people deserving respect and treat all players with similar respect. Listening to them whinge and suck up to the glamour players while being touchy as all teak about the slightest perceived offense doesn't make them respectable, it makes them sooky-la-las, and that's when you need heavy-handed, little girl rulings from AFL HQ to enforce order.

They are becoming more of a joke all the time, and when I hear that the reason we need to 'protect' umpires is because there are young ones entering the system who can be intimidated, that's all I need to know about the calibre of people they are recruiting -- we need stronger characters, not more weedy types who become little nazis when given the smallest bit of authority over those they've always felt inferior to.

[AndrewP6]

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Quick Google search indicates that it is "Hell is other people."

Nice work, thanks...

[AndrewP6]

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'Huis-clos' (No Exit) is a 1944 existentialist play by Jean-Paul Sartre, which is the source of perhaps Sartre's most famous quotation, "l'enfer, c'est les autres" (Hell is other people).

Thanks....interesting....

It's incidentally only a partial quote, the full line actually reads "Hell is other people, and a game of footy marred by the hands in the back rule."

Brilliant...

[AndrewP6]

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And hand gestures? Surely a quiet word is all that is needed unless it is by a repeat or recalcitrant offender.

Our umps need a lesson in leadership and authority -- they will be respected when they behave like people deserving respect and treat all players with similar respect. Listening to them whinge and suck up to the glamour players while being touchy as all teak about the slightest perceived offense doesn't make them respectable, it makes them sooky-la-las, and that's when you need heavy-handed, little girl rulings from AFL HQ to enforce order.

Well put. I hate they way they feel it's OK to be chummy with the players, but you can't go near them with a ten-foot pole. Calling a player by his nickname should be reserved for teammates, and of course rabid sideline supporters... but not the precious whistleblowers...

[AndrewP6]

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I think touching the umpire should be a free and so should insulting and aggressive behavior to the umpire. You can disagree with their decision being poor but they are the authority of the game and must be respected.
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Agreed on aggressive or insulting behaviour. That stuff doesn't belong. But a hand on the arm isn't aggressive or insulting. Nor is pointing at your eyes. I know they're kind of hamstrung (bad pun!) by the stupid rule-makers.

[LostDoggy]

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Agreed on aggressive or insulting behaviour. That stuff doesn't belong. But a hand on the arm isn't aggressive or insulting. Nor is pointing at your eyes. I know they're kind of hamstrung (bad pun!) by the stupid rule-makers.

No if touching the ump is in the rules then hands on him should be punishable. Williams got weeks for it years back.

I never said point at your eyes should be punishable, depends on the manner it is made, Johnno wasn't aggressive.

[LostDoggy]

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And hand gestures? Surely a quiet word is all that is needed unless it is by a repeat or recalcitrant offender.

Depends on the context and if it given in a degrogatory manner by the player. I doubt Johnson's was.