Bulldogs sniffing around ex-Lion Rhan Hooper

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Bulldogs sniffing around ex-Lion Rhan Hooper

Just a question that's not just relevant to Rhan Hooper.

Do we rate our club culture high enough to believe we can turn around a young player who has talent but a poor attitude or do we believe we are so vulnerable that a player with a poor attitude can really hurt us?

Truly meant to be question rather than a statement.

I am definitely against the notion of simply dismissing anyone with a history of displaying poor attitude. It's all about risk vs reward for me.

[Missing Dog]

Re: Bulldogs sniffing around ex-Lion Rhan Hooper

On Rhan Hooper - Smarter people than any of us know more about what's happening at our club. While I was one who thought "GOD NO - DON'T GO AFTER HOOPER" I'll put my faith in Rocket's knowledge and IF anyone can turn Hoopers mind around it's Rocket. So if he thinks he's worth a punt and we can get him cheaply, I say GO for it

[GVGjr]

Re: Bulldogs sniffing around ex-Lion Rhan Hooper

Just a question that's not just relevant to Rhan Hooper.

Do we rate our club culture high enough to believe we can turn around a young player who has talent but a poor attitude or do we believe we are so vulnerable that a player with a poor attitude can really hurt us?

Truly meant to be question rather than a statement.

I am definitely against the notion of simply dismissing anyone with a history of displaying poor attitude. It's all about risk vs reward for me.

To be brutally honest I think our strong club culture has slipped over the last two seasons. It could just be the sign of the times but we seem to have more than our share of Brad Murphy types than I can ever recall. I don't mind a bit of strut and confidence in young players but in my opinion we already have enough peacocks and Bogans without needing to add more high maintenance types.

We seem to be backing our ability to turn players with a checkered past from other clubs around but at the same time I'm not sure that our own house is in order.
It's probably more about my intolerance to players that don't seem to want to measure up to their ability or grasp this golden opportunity so few are privileged to experience but having a team with potentially more distractions isn't something that I would regard as a good thing.

Hooper doesn't have a noted work ethic so I'm not sure how he convinces the list managers that he has changed for the better.

[azabob]

Re: Bulldogs sniffing around ex-Lion Rhan Hooper

To be brutally honest I think our strong club culture has slipped over the last two seasons. It could just be the sign of the times but we seem to have more than our share of Brad Murphy types than I can ever recall. I don't mind a bit of strut and confidence in young players but in my opinion we already have enough peacocks and Bogans without needing to add more high maintenance types.

Interesting observation overall.

I think it does have something to do with the younger generation and the generational change that we are seeing in society as a whole.

[Bulldog Revolution]

Re: Bulldogs sniffing around ex-Lion Rhan Hooper

Hooper is an elite talent, but it would be a wild gamble

As GVG has pointed out we already have a few high maintenance youngsters, and I'd prefer to see us draft a few more of the Cross, Morris, Boyd ilk.

[anfo27]

Re: Bulldogs sniffing around ex-Lion Rhan Hooper

Say it ain't so Rocket.

I would rather use our last pick on Majak Daw than Rhan Hooper. All his problems aside the kid just isn't that good of a player. He may be quick & kick the odd goal or two but so what. If the tigers are interested in him that says enough to me, anything they are interested in everyone else should stay well away.

[anfo27]

Re: Bulldogs sniffing around ex-Lion Rhan Hooper

To be brutally honest I think our strong club culture has slipped over the last two seasons. It could just be the sign of the times but we seem to have more than our share of Brad Murphy types than I can ever recall. I don't mind a bit of strut and confidence in young players but in my opinion we already have enough peacocks and Bogans without needing to add more high maintenance types.

We seem to be backing our ability to turn players with a checkered past from other clubs around but at the same time I'm not sure that our own house is in order.
It's probably more about my intolerance to players that don't seem to want to measure up to their ability or grasp this golden opportunity so few are privileged to experience but having a team with potentially more distractions isn't something that I would regard as a good thing.

Hooper doesn't have a noted work ethic so I'm not sure how he convinces the list managers that he has changed for the better.

What was the story with this kid?

I saw him once at the Anglers on a Saturday night having a few. What really disturbed me was he was wearing a HEADBAND, that was enough for me to delist him. I'm not paying my membership so the club can pay some flog who wears a headband to a night club.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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I would rather us re-draft Lynch than take a risk on Hooper. At least Lynch is a known quantity to us.
The fact that despite Hoopers career as an AFL player hanging by a thread he still chose to not turn up to a training session with the Tigers speaks volumes for his state of mind.
I would've thought that given his precarious position Hooper would've been busting a gut to show prospective clubs ahead of the draft that the penny had dropped and would've been training the house down.

[GVGjr]

Re: Bulldogs sniffing around ex-Lion Rhan Hooper

What was the story with this kid?

I saw him once at the Anglers on a Saturday night having a few. What really disturbed me was he was wearing a HEADBAND, that was enough for me to delist him. I'm not paying my membership so the club can pay some flog who wears a headband to a night club.

Whilst he had the talent he wasn't anywhere near as good as he thought he was. Overly confident and had little respect for his senior team mates.
He also wouldn't pass the ball to team mates clearly in the open if the goals were in sight.

[anfo27]

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Whilst he had the talent he wasn't anywhere near as good as he thought he was. Overly confident and had little respect for his senior team mates.
He also wouldn't pass the ball to team mates clearly in the open if the goals were in sight.

When i saw him at the Anglers my first thought was ' he's a FIGJAM'

[mighty_west]

Re: Bulldogs sniffing around ex-Lion Rhan Hooper

Hooper is an elite talent, but it would be a wild gamble

As GVG has pointed out we already have a few high maintenance youngsters, and I'd prefer to see us draft a few more of the Cross, Morris, Boyd ilk.

You can add Harbrow to that list, the kid has a super attitude.

Patrick Rose may very well be the next in line to add to that group, while i have my doubts whether he can step up to that next level, Picken certaintly has, and i always thought Rose was the more talented out of the 2.

[Sedat]

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He also has good defensive pressure when he doesn't have the ball. I wouldn't be disappointed if he joins our club.

Like the rest of his game, his defensive pressure wildly fluctuates between very good and non-existent. He displayed absolutely no defensive pressure and did not even try to work hard enough to get into the game in his last two matches for Brisbane. Putting aside his chequered past, the area I have a major concern with Hooper is his wild inconsistency on the park - you simply cannot afford to carry non-contributors when the intensity ramps up in September.

On a side note, I cannot believe Hooper was paid more in 2009 than Brian Lake was.

[Missing Dog]

Re: Bulldogs sniffing around ex-Lion Rhan Hooper

To be brutally honest I think our strong club culture has slipped over the last two seasons. It could just be the sign of the times but we seem to have more than our share of Brad Murphy types than I can ever recall. I don't mind a bit of strut and confidence in young players but in my opinion we already have enough peacocks and Bogans without needing to add more high maintenance types.

Brisbane seems much worse and yet we seem to be looking at their players all the time.

[AndrewP6]

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Yeah but in the end if he doesn't perform or he plays up he's only taking the spot of, what would hopefully be, a later round draft pick. And since there's risk in drafting a kid in a weak draft, I'd go for Hooper. He's got some runs on the board at least and he is a talent.

My point was moreso that he wouldn't affect the rest of the group if he does play up. As I said, with his potential upside I think he's worth the risk.

I think he could well affect the kids...and not in a good way - no for mine.

[Missing Dog]

Re: Bulldogs sniffing around ex-Lion Rhan Hooper

You can add Harbrow to that list, the kid has a super attitude.

Patrick Rose may very well be the next in line to add to that group, while i have my doubts whether he can step up to that next level, Picken certaintly has, and i always thought Rose was the more talented out of the 2.

I guess the qualities that Picken brought to us weren't based around his skills rather his attitude, hard work, determination, toughness & ability to play a specific role for us. If Rose was to be picked he would be relying on his skills and ability which I still have doubts as to whether he can make the jump to AFL.