Andrew Hooper in line for cut-throat final

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  • Desipura
    WOOF Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 4344

    #16
    Re: Andrew Hooper in line for cut-throat final

    Originally posted by becmatty
    Oh really? So I guess things must have changed dramatically in your head since you slated this idea when I called for his selection in round 22?

    I said that he was electryingly fast, a great mark for his size and would be a worthy gamble ahead of the finals to give our forward line some bite.

    I guess when you were saying that you 'tottally disagree' , that I have 'no idea' and asked 'Is this the same Hooper at Williamstown that I've been wathcing?' perhaps you were just talking about the Home and Away season.

    Now that it is a popular opinion, why not hitch a ride on the bandwagon?
    If you suggest 100 things, occasionally you're bound to get one

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    • ratsmac
      Coaching Staff
      • May 2009
      • 3974

      #17
      Re: Andrew Hooper in line for cut-throat final

      What have we got to lose? Apart from the game. Everyone else in the team has played crap so I can't see Hooper doing any worse. I think I would rather Hill but there is a good chance he will serve up the crap that got him dropped in the first place. Hill or Hooper, I could live with either one of these decisions.
      They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
      Brian Fantana.

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      • Greystache
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Dec 2009
        • 9775

        #18
        Re: Andrew Hooper in line for cut-throat final

        Originally posted by 1eyedog
        And you obviously saw the article.
        No I didn't, there's no mention in the link. It's just pretty obvious.

        Originally posted by becmatty
        Oh really? So I guess things must have changed dramatically in your head since you slated this idea when I called for his selection in round 22?

        I said that he was electryingly fast, a great mark for his size and would be a worthy gamble ahead of the finals to give our forward line some bite.

        I guess when you were saying that you 'tottally disagree' , that I have 'no idea' and asked 'Is this the same Hooper at Williamstown that I've been wathcing?' perhaps you were just talking about the Home and Away season.

        Now that it is a popular opinion, why not hitch a ride on the bandwagon?
        Irrelevant poster ignored.
        [COLOR="#FF0000"][B]Western Bulldogs:[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="#0000CD"][B]We exist to win premierships[/B][/COLOR]

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        • ledge
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2007
          • 14033

          #19
          Re: Andrew Hooper in line for cut-throat final

          I am a believer in if you dont try it you will never know,.
          The way we are going at the moment, I say go for it at least you were shown to try something.
          Those days when our side cops a thumping I tend to look and see if the coach tried things or just sat and watched.
          If he tries different things I am at least happy he did different things , if he didnt I become very angry and think what did that achieve?
          Bring back the biff

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          • Mantis
            Hall of Fame
            • Apr 2007
            • 15222

            #20
            Re: Andrew Hooper in line for cut-throat final

            I am not too keen on this move.

            I would much prefer Jones be in line for a recall than an untried Hooper. We need to have forwards in our team who can win their own ball against decent opposition and it's totally unknown if Hooper can do this and a cut-throat final is no time to experiment in this way.

            At least in Jones we know that he will chase and place pressure on the opposition and has shown the ability to look dangerous at times.

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            • Missing Dog
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8501

              #21
              Re: Andrew Hooper in line for cut-throat final

              Originally posted by Mantis
              I am not too keen on this move.

              I would much prefer Jones be in line for a recall than an untried Hooper. We need to have forwards in our team who can win their own ball against decent opposition and it's totally unknown if Hooper can do this and a cut-throat final is no time to experiment in this way.

              At least in Jones we know that he will chase and place pressure on the opposition and has shown the ability to look dangerous at times.
              If it Jones v Hooper, than I'd go with Jones.

              But if it's Eagleton v Hooper or Hahn v Hooper, than I'd prefer to go with the unknown rather than the known.

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #22
                Re: Andrew Hooper in line for cut-throat final

                Id love to see this kid be given a game, straight into the finals, show us what you've got. Like b.a.d said, I think he'd have more to offer than a Hahn or Eagleton right now.

                For the Willy watchers, what kind of player out there is he similar to?

                His body seems like a Jarrod Moore-type? Does he have similar attributes?

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                • Desipura
                  WOOF Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 4344

                  #23
                  Re: Andrew Hooper in line for cut-throat final

                  Originally posted by alexxx
                  Id love to see this kid be given a game, straight into the finals, show us what you've got. Like b.a.d said, Id like him in there over a Hahn or Eagleton right now.

                  For the Willy watchers, what kind of player out there is he similar to?

                  His body seems like a Jarrod Moore-type? Does he have similar attributes?
                  Built like Jarred Moore plays like Ben McGlynn

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                  • Mofra
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 14809

                    #24
                    Re: Andrew Hooper in line for cut-throat final

                    Originally posted by 1eyedog
                    He is also very very chatty out on the field and doesn't lack any confidence.
                    Good.
                    I'm sick to bloody death of the club being 20+ "nice guys" every week. I want pricks like Picken & Shaggy to have someone to share stories with. Huddo can sledge too, whilst Tim Callan spent a fair bit of time at a Willy 1/4 time huddle bragging how he had smashed some bloke than rubbed his face in the mud whilst on top of him.
                    I think we lack mongrel & swagger.
                    Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                    • Mantis
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 15222

                      #25
                      Re: Andrew Hooper in line for cut-throat final

                      Originally posted by Mofra
                      Good.
                      I'm sick to bloody death of the club being 20+ "nice guys" every week. I want pricks like Picken & Shaggy to have someone to share stories with. Huddo can sledge too, whilst Tim Callan spent a fair bit of time at a Willy 1/4 time huddle bragging how he had smashed some bloke than rubbed his face in the mud whilst on top of him.
                      I think we lack mongrel & swagger.
                      What is this assumption based on?

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                      • Mantis
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 15222

                        #26
                        Re: Andrew Hooper in line for cut-throat final

                        Originally posted by aker39
                        If it Jones v Hooper, than I'd go with Jones.

                        But if it's Eagleton v Hooper or Hahn v Hooper, than I'd prefer to go with the unknown rather than the known.
                        At present the only one we are hearing as an out is Higgins. We seriously lacked size up forward last week so when he goes out Jones should come in.

                        Agree that if we make more changes to our forward structure then Hooper should come into calculations.

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #27
                          Re: Andrew Hooper in line for cut-throat final

                          Originally posted by Mofra
                          Good.
                          I'm sick to bloody death of the club being 20+ "nice guys" every week. I want pricks like Picken & Shaggy to have someone to share stories with. Huddo can sledge too, whilst Tim Callan spent a fair bit of time at a Willy 1/4 time huddle bragging how he had smashed some bloke than rubbed his face in the mud whilst on top of him.
                          I think we lack mongrel & swagger.
                          I agree. What really peed me off last week was watching Collingwood bad mouth our blokes at every opportunity to no response.

                          I don't care if it means we have a few blokes who piss on Police Stations but get some mongrel out there.

                          Fly the flag FFS.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #28
                            Re: Andrew Hooper in line for cut-throat final

                            Originally posted by Mofra
                            Good.
                            I'm sick to bloody death of the club being 20+ "nice guys" every week. I want pricks like Picken & Shaggy to have someone to share stories with. Huddo can sledge too, whilst Tim Callan spent a fair bit of time at a Willy 1/4 time huddle bragging how he had smashed some bloke than rubbed his face in the mud whilst on top of him.
                            I think we lack mongrel & swagger.
                            I love Huddo on a mark, his distraction is yelling loud in their faces. Would scare me if I was the player with the ball

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                            • Ozza
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 6380

                              #29
                              Re: Andrew Hooper in line for cut-throat final

                              Definitely agree with Jones in for Higgins.
                              I'd be happy enough for Hooper to play (note: I've never seen him play before) as long as it was in place of Eagleton or Hahn - but I definitely think Jones takes priority over Hooper.

                              Wood should replace Hahn.
                              If Ward is no good - then Moles is the replacement.

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #30
                                Re: Andrew Hooper in line for cut-throat final

                                Hooper in or out shouldn't be the reason we win or lose. There are far deeper reasons than a small forward for the way we are playing. It has to do with being able to win contested footy, being able to get our number of tackles up across the whole team, and getting across to helping mates in the middle of the ground so that we can get the ball into the forward line with efficiency. One question is whether Boyd, Griffen, Johnson, Cross et al can actually dispose of the ball at speed with accuracy. Murphy and Gilbee also loom as extremely important in whether they can skilfully initiate long, quick passages of play off half back. Gotta start winning centre bounces and stoppages to the extent that we actually score heavily from the ones we do win.

                                Yes, play Hooper in the forward line but I'm just not sure if should do this and play Johnno in the goal square.

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