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  • Remi Moses
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 14785

    #46
    Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

    Going to say the same thing, O'Brien and Maxwell have murdered us lately!

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    • Sockeye Salmon
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 6365

      #47
      Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

      Does anyone write about Chris Judd being an ordinary shot for goal?

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      • Ghost Dog
        WOOF Member
        • May 2010
        • 9404

        #48
        Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

        Dogs carry the weight of expectation. Pressure certainly on Coons to perform.

        Anyway, It's not important because you can't change the past.
        57 years or last year, the only important game is the next one.
        Said with great respect to all the fans that have stuck by them and suffered, but like any athlete, fans have to put the past behind them and focus on the next game. Otherwise, its too much, gets over analyzed and negative.
        Last edited by Ghost Dog; 29-04-2011, 11:40 PM.
        You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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        • The Underdog
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Aug 2007
          • 6987

          #49
          Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

          Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
          Does anyone write about Chris Judd being an ordinary shot for goal?
          No but as much as I hate to say it Judd has been the best player on the team he's on for about 7 years. Cooney has been the most talented for about 4 but not consistently the best.
          Judd has also always projected as a mature leader to the media (and they lap it up), Cooney still projects as smart arse schoolboy.
          Judd gets the benefit of the doubt, sometimes unfairly, but Cooney is a long way behind him in most aspects.
          Park that car
          Drop that phone
          Sleep on the floor
          Dream about me

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          • AndrewP6
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2009
            • 8142

            #50
            Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

            Originally posted by The Underdog
            Judd has also always projected as a mature leader to the media (and they lap it up), Cooney still projects as smart arse schoolboy.
            Disagree with this assessment. One thing I wouldn't say is that he's a smart arse. Was only a year or two back that he would barely speak, now he's quite open when speaking during interviews and so on. Larrikin, knockabout, yes, but IMO he's no smart arse.

            Sorry for the 'a' words, moderators!
            [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 45555

              #51
              Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

              Originally posted by bobmurphy
              This is true. Which is why the esky lid fiasco is also very disappointing.

              Understand he needs to get away and I have no problem with this but to act how he did was disappointing.
              The club and the player would have known how bad his injuries were and yet he still couldn't help himself and risked further injury with a juvenile act. Now his injuries that interrupted his pre-season are being used to explain a sub-par performance.
              It's a factor for sure but how much slack should we really be cutting him?
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • Topdog
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 7483

                #52
                Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

                Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                Does anyone write about Chris Judd being an ordinary shot for goal?
                Originally posted by The Underdog
                No
                Actually Mike S has written and spoken about it several times.

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                • Desipura
                  WOOF Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 4344

                  #53
                  Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

                  Originally posted by GVGjr
                  The club and the player would have known how bad his injuries were and yet he still couldn't help himself and risked further injury with a juvenile act. Now his injuries that interrupted his pre-season are being used to explain a sub-par performance.
                  It's a factor for sure but how much slack should we really be cutting him?
                  Fair call, could you see Granty, Johnno, Buckley, Hird or Judd doing that during the off season?

                  No, they will be putting 100 per cent into their rehab knowing how close we/they are to winning a premiership.
                  There are 15 other teams striving for glory, you cannot take any shortcuts and have to do everything possible to get ahead of your opponents.

                  How badly does he want it? He is one of our most important players, without him at his best, we will not win a premiership.
                  Lack of preseason aside, he should be nailing those goals

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                  • ratsmac
                    WOOF Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 3975

                    #54
                    Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

                    Originally posted by Remi Moses
                    Jake Niall is a very good football analyst and writer.
                    Hutchison is a bin scavenging gossip journo
                    Hahaha, so true.
                    They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
                    Brian Fantana.

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                    • ratsmac
                      WOOF Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 3975

                      #55
                      Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

                      Originally posted by AndrewP6
                      Disagree with this assessment. One thing I wouldn't say is that he's a smart arse. Was only a year or two back that he would barely speak, now he's quite open when speaking during interviews and so on. Larrikin, knockabout, yes, but IMO he's no smart arse.

                      Sorry for the 'a' words, moderators!
                      Well said Andrew. When I hear the words "smart arse," Stephen Milne come to mind and not Adam Cooney.
                      They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
                      Brian Fantana.

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #56
                        Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

                        25-30 is usually when an AFL footballer hits their peak, Cooney is currently heading into that area.

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                        • Topdog
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 7483

                          #57
                          Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

                          Originally posted by Desipura
                          Fair call, could you see Granty, Johnno, Buckley, Hird or Judd doing that during the off season?
                          I agree I couldn't see it for the first 4 but to be fair who knows what they got up to. Social media wasn't really around then. Judd is known to have done the odd stupid thing whilst on end of year breaks.

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 45555

                            #58
                            Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

                            Originally posted by Desipura
                            How badly does he want it? He is one of our most important players, without him at his best, we will not win a premiership.
                            Lack of preseason aside, he should be nailing those goals
                            I don't think he is as committed yet to getting the best out of himself as he should be but then again a lot of naturally talented players are like that.
                            I also don't think the injury interrupted pre-season is a good reason for him missing goals.

                            I believe they club had a special session this week that focused on goal kicking but I wonder if they had players on the mark or just gave the group open looks at the goals and still thought it was a good session.
                            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 45555

                              #59
                              Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

                              Originally posted by Glove38
                              25-30 is usually when an AFL footballer hits their peak, Cooney is currently heading into that area.

                              He's had issues with knees and hamstrings so I don't think we can fully count on him getting better in that age bracket. He might however, become more consistent.
                              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                              • Mantis
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 15547

                                #60
                                Re: Jake Niall Kicks Cooney out of bounds

                                Originally posted by GVGjr

                                I believe they club had a special session this week that focused on goal kicking but I wonder if they had players on the mark or just gave the group open looks at the goals and still thought it was a good session.
                                I watched them have goal kicking practice at a recovery session a few weeks back. I sat directly behind a group who had to kick from about 40m on a 45 deg angle. There was a cross-wind blowing meaning that a kick of normal penetration needed to be started just outside the right hand goal post in order to register a goal. The conversion rate would have been no better than 20% and I was staggered to see how many players started the ball in the middle of the goals even on there 3rd or 4th attempt only to watch the ball miss to the left.

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