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  • Ghost Dog
    WOOF Member
    • May 2010
    • 9404

    #16
    Re: Bulldog keen to stay at kennel

    Originally posted by The Underdog
    Not true, as others have stated he barracked for Essendon as a kid.
    Really? Article is innacurate then?

    sacrificing hundreds of thousands of dollars if he stayed with the Bulldogs, the club he barracked for as a kid, having grown up within a short walk of Whitten Oval
    You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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    • The Underdog
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Aug 2007
      • 6871

      #17
      Re: Bulldog keen to stay at kennel

      Originally posted by Ghost Dog
      Really? Article is innacurate then?

      sacrificing hundreds of thousands of dollars if he stayed with the Bulldogs, the club he barracked for as a kid, having grown up within a short walk of Whitten Oval
      Yep it's wrong. There was a bunch of article's around the time of drafting that stated he was an Essendon supporter despite living around the corner from Whitten Oval.
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      • Ghost Dog
        WOOF Member
        • May 2010
        • 9404

        #18
        Re: Bulldog keen to stay at kennel

        Well, I guess I feel less certain now!
        Thanks Underdog
        You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44653

          #19
          Re: Bulldog keen to stay at kennel

          Originally posted by Ghost Dog
          plenty of others have passed up on the cash pipeline from GWS.
          Why not Callan?
          Doug hawkins was offered a birth at Essendon in the twilight of his career.
          Malthouse basically said to him, what happens if you go and then we win the big one after you're gone?
          He could have been a premiership player at Essendon, but he decided to stay for better or worse.

          Callan is a Bulldogs fan since childhood. What if he goes and then has to watch us march through a period of sustained success?
          How much money would actually dull the feelins that might stir in a long term supporter?
          Not for all the tea in China would a true Bulldogs fan go to GWS, like Chris Grant and his 20 cent pay rise, and Hawkins, Ward is going to stick with the tricolour. I'm positive.
          Doug Hawkins did play at Fitzroy after we ended his career - a decision that was correct (to cut him I mean) .
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          • chef
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 14624

            #20
            Re: Bulldog keen to stay at kennel

            Originally posted by HairyMidget
            AS I have said before. If he's missing out on 100s of thousands of dollars a year he must go. There will be no ill feelings. No other club in the league would offer that much for him, as is.
            If it were 50k difference then yes, but not 100k-200k a year that is too much to give up.
            And it would desimate the Western Buldogs if they tryed to match the offer. It would leave nothing for the future and put the club in a masive hole.
            Good luck Callan.
            Not from me, I would hate him as much as I hate Brown, Harbrow etc.
            The curse is dead.

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            • Maddog37
              WOOF Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 3132

              #21
              Re: Bulldog keen to stay at kennel

              Originally posted by anfo27
              easy thing to say when you're not the one being offered the money.
              Doesn't make it any less true though.

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #22
                Re: Bulldog keen to stay at kennel

                Originally posted by Maddog37
                More to life than money..........
                100% agree.
                There is also more to life than Footy.
                Things like family and future come to mind.

                Originally posted by Remi Moses
                Why must he go? Choices such as family, Friends, lifestyle come into the equation and happiness . Yes there will be Ill feelings, he'll be perceived as a mercenary!
                Some of our supporters are just to nice honestly!!
                Like I said, If it were a pety difference then there would be ill feelings but not the amount bantered around. Footballers make top dollar for a period of about 5-6 years if they are lucky. More than likely he'll have a family to take care of for sometime after that, and a decision like this will dictate how his and his childrens life will pan out.

                Originally posted by chef
                Not from me, I would hate him as much as I hate Brown, Harbrow etc.
                Do you really hate Harbrow? He had his reason to go and I'd have thought most would accept that?

                Look guys, don't get me wrong, I wish everyone could play for the Dogs and do it for free. But unfortunately we don't live in a world where that is possible. AFL is no longer about representing your suburb with your mates, having a beer and pie after the game and going back to work with a limp and black eye on Monday. The AFL is a massive business with lots of cash flow and investments. It is not a means to run around, have a laugh and keep fit. It is now their (the players) full time job and as such they get offered promotions / demotions, secondments and interstate postings within that job. It is a personal career move to accept or refuse these offers
                I guess what I'm trying to say is it isn't a good career move to knock back an offer like this, and it would not be a good business decision for the WBs to offer anything dramatic to try and keep him.
                It would be sad, but no hatred or ill feelings here.

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                • chef
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 14624

                  #23
                  Re: Bulldog keen to stay at kennel

                  Originally posted by HairyMidget
                  Do you really hate Harbrow? He had his reason to go and I'd have thought most would accept that?
                  Yeah, I do. He had been my favourite player over the last couple of seasons and I'm still devastated he's gone. I hate him with a passion.
                  The curse is dead.

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                  • Mofra
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 14954

                    #24
                    Re: Bulldog keen to stay at kennel

                    Originally posted by HairyMidget
                    Like I said, If it were a pety difference then there would be ill feelings but not the amount bantered around. Footballers make top dollar for a period of about 5-6 years if they are lucky.
                    Bull. Football is a fantastic networking opportunity, and many footballers in the system for a few years go on to lead succesfsul corproate lives based entirely on the contacts they made whilst playing football. Heck, I know of basketballers in the 80s (non-professional era) who are hugely successful almost entirely because they met the right people through the chosen sport.

                    To suggest that income is a tap that suddenly turns off as soon as the last season is over just doesn't bare out in reality. Richo's PB used to tell me he was a property developer who just happened to play football on the weekends.
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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #25
                      Re: Bulldog keen to stay at kennel

                      Originally posted by HairyMidget
                      Like I said, If it were a pety difference then there would be ill feelings but not the amount bantered around. Footballers make top dollar for a period of about 5-6 years if they are lucky. More than likely he'll have a family to take care of for sometime after that, and a decision like this will dictate how his and his childrens life will pan out.
                      .
                      Originally posted by Mofra
                      Bull. Football is a fantastic networking opportunity, and many footballers in the system for a few years go on to lead succesfsul corproate lives based entirely on the contacts they made whilst playing football. Heck, I know of basketballers in the 80s (non-professional era) who are hugely successful almost entirely because they met the right people through the chosen sport.

                      To suggest that income is a tap that suddenly turns off as soon as the last season is over just doesn't bare out in reality. Richo's PB used to tell me he was a property developer who just happened to play football on the weekends.
                      That is kind of what I am getting at Mofra!
                      They make top dollar for that period as a Football player (maybe I should have written it out fully). A move like this would give him a broader mind and experience as well as the finacial backing to set up for his future endevours.
                      Thats why I go on in that same post about AFL being a business now and career moves etc.
                      Last edited by LostDoggy; 16-06-2011, 09:24 AM. Reason: added

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #26
                        Re: Bulldog keen to stay at kennel

                        Originally posted by chef
                        Yeah, I do. He had been my favourite player over the last couple of seasons and I'm still devastated he's gone. I hate him with a passion.
                        Good to hear. If Callan goes for the rumoured kind of money he's been offered then he'd be mad not too. There's surely no way we could match it, and tbh, he's proven little so far to justify that kind of potential offer from GWS or us.

                        I'm not going to be cheering him on or wishing him well in the future. Please shut the door on your way out and we'll move onto the players who want to stay. It's not worth jeopardising the salary cap to keep him (at this stage of his current career) and having problems fitting the current crop of <20 gamers in in 1-3 years.

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