Western Bulldogs coach Rodney Eade will opt for the younger players

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Western Bulldogs coach Rodney Eade will opt for the younger players

He couldn't catch before he broke his finger, either.


Barlow is exactly the same as Everitt, with all the same problems that Everiit had, except that he has about 1/10 of Everitt's talent (and as far as I know he doesn't have an idiot brother).


Once Barlow passes the 20 game barrier (no chance IMO) he will be the most hated Bulldogs player in the history of the internet.

Post bookmarked. revisit this one in 20 Barlow games

[macca]

Re: Western Bulldogs coach Rodney Eade will opt for the younger players

I didn't make the comment based on Saturday. I made the comment based on his overall crappiness at Sydney and at the Dogs.

He cannot catch.

He is a potato.

Why cant Barlow be played as a bash and crash CHF ? He just has to bring the ball down. His long kicking isnt bad. Keep him there for 1-2 years until Jones, Panos/Tommy Hill develop, and Ayce develop

[Sockeye Salmon]

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Why cant Barlow be played as a bash and crash CHF ? He just has to bring the ball down. His long kicking isnt bad. Keep him there for 1-2 years until Jones, Panos/Tommy Hill develop, and Ayce develop

Because he's about as physical as Sam Power.

[Desipura]

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Love the honesty Sockeye in your assessment of players. Some on here I believe are too biased.
I would be interested to know who of the following players you think has a long term career at the dogs or at AFL level?
Addison
Stack
Hooper
Djerkurra
Mulligan
Minson
Reid
Markovic

I think they are all list cloggers.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Western Bulldogs coach Rodney Eade will opt for the younger players

Love the honesty Sockeye in your assessment of players. Some on here I believe are too biased.
I would be interested to know who of the following players you think has a long term career at the dogs or at AFL level?
Addison
Stack
Hooper
Djerkurra
Mulligan
Minson
Reid

You can be biased either way.

Of your list (I know you asked SS but I'm weighing in with my ten cents worth), I'd pick to still be here at the end of 2013:

DJ (contract runs out then, so we'd have to trade him otherwise).
Minson (if he doesn't retire).
Reid could go either way.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Western Bulldogs coach Rodney Eade will opt for the younger players

Addison - No
Stack - Perhaps
Hooper - No
Djerkurra - No
Mulligan - Unlikely
Minson - Yes
Reid - No
Markovic - Perhaps

Addison has a crack but just isn't very good any anything in particular. Perhaps if he was quicker he might be a chance but he ain't.

Stack may not make it but at least I see enough to think he has the tools. He moves well enough and his skills are good enough.

Hooper has shown nothing that makes me think he will ever be any more than a fair/good VFL player. Miles off AFL and I can't see where he can improve.

DJ's ball handling simply is not of AFL standard.

Mulligan is similar to Stack. Has the physical attributes but will he ever turn into a player? Probably not.

I think Minson is actually quite a decent ruckman, he's just a very ordinary forward. No doubt he has been hurt by Hudson being an even worse forward than Will is.

Reid - too slow, can't kick.

Markovic could make an honest go of a 4-5 year/ 50-70 game AFL career but will ultimately get pushed out by the time he's 28 when someone younger is found to do as good a job. Would only survive if he was adequate enough that replacing him didn't become a high priority. Potential eker.

[Desipura]

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Addison has a crack but just isn't very good any anything in particular. Perhaps if he was quicker he might be a chance but he ain't.

Stack may not make it but at least I see enough to think he has the tools. He moves well enough and his skills are good enough.

Hooper has shown nothing that makes me think he will ever be any more than a fair/good VFL player. Miles off AFL and I can't see where he can improve.

DJ's ball handling simply is not of AFL standard.

Mulligan is similar to Stack. Has the physical attributes but will he ever turn into a player? Probably not.

I think Minson is actually quite a decent ruckman, he's just a very ordinary forward. No doubt he has been hurt by Hudson being an even worse forward than Will is.

Reid - too slow, can't kick.

Markovic could make an honest go of a 4-5 year/ 50-70 game AFL career but will ultimately get pushed out by the time he's 28 when someone younger is found to do as good a job. Would only survive if he was adequate enough that replacing him didn't become a high priority. Potential eker.

Thanks. Hard to disagree with your assessment. Minson as a week in week out ruckman I do not believe can make it.
Having said that, he is the most likely.
Stack lacks intensity.

[Sedat]

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Barlow is exactly the same as Everitt, with all the same problems that Everiit had, except that he has about 1/10 of Everitt's talent (and as far as I know he doesn't have an idiot brother).

Dre would be lucky to have 1% of Barlow's work ethic and desperation. I've watched him live 3 times now and he simply does not stop working his arse off and running to provide an option for his mostly static teammates. He sucked in the first half on Saturday but it certainly wasn't for lack of effort, and he was as instrumental as anyone else (with the exception of Boyd) in the fightback.

In answer to MJP's post earlier, for mine Barlow is ruck relief/follower in the Stefan Martin/Leigh Brown mould, but can pinch hit up forward or down back as needed. He could also be used as a run-with option to blunt the effectiveness of the top-echelon mobile ruckmen (such as a Cox type). None of Minson, Hudson (if he is retained) or Roughy can go with these types, and we have the perfect person to blunt their effectiveness.

The bloke can outrun Crossy in a time trial - he gets huge props for this alone. Not every tall is going to be blessed with the sublime skill of a Hart or a Templeton or a Grant - he might be a potato but he's my potato.

[Sedat]

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Stack lacks intensity.

I don't think he lacks intensity - he goes hard enough when needed. His main problem is his decision making when he has the ball. When he doesn't have to think about the consequences, he can do some great things on the park. But give him time and space with the ball and he goes to water.

[Daughter of the West]

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Not every tall is going to be blessed with the sublime skill of a Hart or a Templeton or a Grant - he might be a potato but he's my potato.

*Apologies if the picture didn't actually work, I can't actually see it on my work computer.

[Greystache]

Re: Western Bulldogs coach Rodney Eade will opt for the younger players

Great Post Sedat.

[soupman]

Re: Western Bulldogs coach Rodney Eade will opt for the younger players

I don't think he lacks intensity - he goes hard enough when needed. His main problem is his decision making when he has the ball. When he doesn't have to think about the consequences, he can do some great things on the park. But give him time and space with the ball and he goes to water.

I agree with this. I think the thing he lacks is confidence. When he stuffs up it's because he seems unsure in what he is doing. This is happening less, and I actually think he's been fairly solid this year, and unlucky to be dropped at times (after an early trip to Perth perhaps was the most suprising). I'm more than happy to give him another year if his performances stay at the same level or higher, certainly ahead of a Hooper. Stack at least has several AFL qualities, we are just waiting on them to come together. They probably won't, and like many say he probably will never be a quality AFL player, but I actually don't think he's too far off being a good average player.

[Ghost Dog]

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Because he's about as physical as Sam Power.

Were you actually at the WC game? Not sure we are actually talking about the same player. I saw him go straight in and under several times, and once go back with the flight of the ball and take a terrific mark. Confused.

[LostDoggy]

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I agree with this. I think the thing he lacks is confidence. When he stuffs up it's because he seems unsure in what he is doing. This is happening less, and I actually think he's been fairly solid this year, and unlucky to be dropped at times (after an early trip to Perth perhaps was the most suprising). I'm more than happy to give him another year if his performances stay at the same level or higher, certainly ahead of a Hooper. Stack at least has several AFL qualities, we are just waiting on them to come together. They probably won't, and like many say he probably will never be a quality AFL player, but I actually don't think he's too far off being a good average player.

Stack reminds me of Farren. These guys are athletic enough and seem to have all the tools, but geez, ask them to make a decision and it's a hospital handpass to no-one in the corridor.

[Bornadog]

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Stack reminds me of Farren. These guys are athletic enough and seem to have all the tools, but geez, ask them to make a decision and it's a hospital handpass to no-one in the corridor.

I re-watched the WC game last night and I thought Stack played very well and did little wrong. I think his decision making is getting better as he gains more experience. He is very athletic and has some good skills. The 60 metre kick off one step to nail a goal was brilliant as was the 40 metre grass cutter pass to hit Hall on the chest.