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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 65605

    Writings on the Hall: Roos stoush had been brewing

    Andrew Wu



    BARRY HALL says he felt his relationship with Paul Roos was strained well before his controversial hit on Brent Staker after questioning Sydney's game plan in a private meeting in 2007.
    In his book, Pulling No Punches, which is in bookstores from today, Hall documents the tension between himself and Roos, which left a stain on the forward's eight-year career at the club.
    Hall said the relationship between the pair, who played key roles in the Swans' drought-breaking flag in 2005, started to get ''a little strained'' well before the spearhead's departure at the end of 2009.
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    The book also reveals how close Hall was to accepting an offer from Danny Green to switch to boxing; gives an insight into the Bloods culture at the Swans; tells how he tried to leave the Swans and join the Bulldogs at the end of 2008; and how Hawthorn were keen to recruit him after he left Sydney.
    Hall writes about a meeting he and Michael O'Loughlin had with the coaching staff to express concerns about the game plan, and how they felt it was not working for the forwards, and suggested ''some new ways of doing things''.
    ''They put it back onto me, saying I was blaming the game plan because I wasn't getting a kick,'' Hall writes. ''It all got turned back onto me again. 'You let the media affect you,' I was told. 'Hang on, let's stop the meeting here,' I said. 'This is ridiculous - what are you talking about? I'm here to help us try to win more games, that's all. I'm not suggesting this so I can kick 10 goals next week - I'm here because I want to win.'
    ''I was told that my body was not letting me do what I wanted it to do, but I said it wasn't about that.
    ''They just didn't get it.''
    Hall described the Staker punch as the ''darkest mark on my career'' and addresses speculation at the time, including suggestions his love life was the catalyst.
    ''A lot of crap was written afterwards about my relationships and the mental state I was in before the game, but that was just bullshit,'' Hall writes.
    ''The truth was I was continually wound up by Staker, and by the umpire who wouldn't do his job. I got frustrated, and the result was … well, we all know what it was.
    ''I'm not good enough to play well if I'm off my game because I'm thinking about my ex-girlfriend. And anyway, how could they think that I run around the footy field thinking about girls?''
    Hall said he was willing to do whatever it took to get back on the field, even if that meant saying there were matters in his private life that were affecting him and spending several weeks on the psychologist's couch.
    FFC: Established 1883

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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 65605

    #2
    Re: Writings on the Hall: Roos stoush had been brewing Read more: http://www.theage.

    If Roos can't even talk to his players and he was available to coach, I don't want him at the dogs.
    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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    • AndrewP6
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2009
      • 8142

      #3
      Re: Writings on the Hall: Roos stoush had been brewing

      Similar article in today's Hun, excerpts from the book detailing the fact that Roos would do anything to avoid one-on-one confrontation. "Pulling No Punches" indeed. Can't wait to pick the book up.
      [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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      • Ghost Dog
        WOOF Member
        • May 2010
        • 9404

        #4
        Re: Writings on the Hall: Roos stoush had been brewing Read more: http://www.theage.

        Originally posted by bornadog
        If Roos can't even talk to his players and he was available to coach, I don't want him at the dogs.
        Two sides to every story I guess. Roos has held the cup aloft. I'd have him.
        You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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        • AndrewP6
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2009
          • 8142

          #5
          Re: Writings on the Hall: Roos stoush had been brewing Read more: http://www.theage.

          Originally posted by Ghost Dog
          Two sides to every story I guess. Roos has held the cup aloft. I'd have him.
          So has Barry. I prefer him.
          [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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          • Ghost Dog
            WOOF Member
            • May 2010
            • 9404

            #6
            Re: Writings on the Hall: Roos stoush had been brewing Read more: http://www.theage.

            Originally posted by AndrewP6
            So has Barry. I prefer him.
            Ah yes. True enough
            Savoring every snap from the big fella this season, as it's coming to an end so soon.
            I reckon Barry would be the first to admit Roos has something to offer a club.
            Don't reckon he's saying ' don't employ the guy' more or less ' can be a bit of a prick'
            You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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            • Mofra
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 14797

              #7
              Re: Writings on the Hall: Roos stoush had been brewing

              Originally posted by bornadog
              tells how he tried to leave the Swans and join the Bulldogs at the end of 2008
              If only
              Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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              • comrade
                Hall of Fame
                • Jun 2008
                • 17841

                #8
                Re: Writings on the Hall: Roos stoush had been brewing

                Originally posted by Mofra
                If only
                Why do we have to get our face rubbed in it?
                Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 65605

                  #9
                  Re: Writings on the Hall: Roos stoush had been brewing

                  I have ordered the book through the club which will be signed by Bazza, should be an interesting read.
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • KT31
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 5454

                    #10
                    Re: Writings on the Hall: Roos stoush had been brewing Read more: http://www.theage.

                    Originally posted by AndrewP6
                    So has Barry. I prefer him.
                    Agree.
                    It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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                    • AndrewP6
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 8142

                      #11
                      Re: Writings on the Hall: Roos stoush had been brewing

                      Picked up "Pulling No Punches" tonight. Just had a brief flick through, seems interesting.
                      [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 65605

                        #12
                        Re: Writings on the Hall: Roos stoush had been brewing

                        Originally posted by AndrewP6
                        Picked up "Pulling No Punches" tonight. Just had a brief flick through, seems interesting.
                        How did you do that? I pre-ordered and went to the club today to pick it up and was told can't do that till Monday as the official launch was 4pm today with the Bazza signings?
                        FFC: Established 1883

                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • BulldogBelle
                          WOOF Member
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 5284

                          #13
                          Re: Writings on the Hall: Roos stoush had been brewing

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          I have ordered the book through the club which will be signed by Bazza, should be an interesting read.
                          Same, looking forward to reading it also.

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                          • AndrewP6
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 8142

                            #14
                            Re: Writings on the Hall: Roos stoush had been brewing

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            How did you do that? I pre-ordered and went to the club today to pick it up and was told can't do that till Monday as the official launch was 4pm today with the Bazza signings?
                            K-mart have it in stock, $ 22
                            [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 65605

                              #15
                              Re: Writings on the Hall: Roos stoush had been brewing

                              Originally posted by AndrewP6
                              K-mart have it in stock, $ 22
                              Discounted already
                              FFC: Established 1883

                              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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