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  • Hotdog60
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Aug 2009
    • 5874

    #16
    Re: It's still a Dog's life for Lake

    Originally posted by DragzLS1
    Lake and Jones up front would be great but keep Lake alternating I'm excited about next season, new coach with a fit Lake and Cooney we will be worrying a few sides well done to Brian for staying now let's get him right for his own good not just ours.
    Cooney will never be fully fit, his knee will always be a concern. Brian has a history of a hip complaint but hopefully with good management we will reap some rewards.
    Don't piss off old people
    The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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    • G-Mo77
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Apr 2007
      • 9879

      #17
      Re: It's still a Dog's life for Lake

      Originally posted by theimmortalmike

      Were you of the view that Sydney should have traded O'Keefe when he wanted out a couple of years ago? Callan Ward's mind was not 100% set on being a Bulldogs player this year nor was Harbrow's last year. How did you rate their years? Chris Grant in 96?
      Fair point, I'm sure things can be smoothed over it's just that I have my concerns with were our list is right now and the effect of a disgruntled player may have on that. I don't want a shitty culture growing any stronger in our club. In regards to Ward to be honest I'm pretty pissed off with the players for not taking the Ward switch more personally. I maybe reading into it to much but this comes across as the players are not united to the club which is what I found so disappointing.

      Originally posted by theimmortalmike
      I can't believe I'm saying this but if you only look for a negative that's all you'll find.
      I think that's a fairly unfair barb thrown my way. Yeah I'm very pessimistic about Lake but I think my concerns are valid. I could also be saying to everyone that thinks it will all turn out fine and dandy to stop looking through rose colored glasses.

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      • Desipura
        WOOF Member
        • Mar 2008
        • 4344

        #18
        Re: It's still a Dog's life for Lake

        We don't have a good full back other than Lake and people want him to play forward, bizarre!

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        • 1eyedog
          Hall of Fame
          • Mar 2008
          • 13222

          #19
          Re: It's still a Dog's life for Lake

          Originally posted by theimmortalmike
          Coons is our highest paid player, Lake is getting roughly what we offered Ward. He is not a leader so I doubt his mental attitude will have as much effect on the club as that of say Boyd or Morris. If you take an optimistic view what if a little faith is all he needed after a year of people questioning his commitment?

          Were you of the view that Sydney should have traded O'Keefe when he wanted out a couple of years ago? Callan Ward's mind was not 100% set on being a Bulldogs player this year nor was Harbrow's last year. How did you rate their years? Chris Grant in 96?

          You don't trade champions, and you especially don't trade them for peanuts.

          I can't believe I'm saying this but if you only look for a negative that's all you'll find.
          I'm thinking Templeton at the end of 82, at least we got a packet for him. Templeton's body was questionable, so is Lake's.

          Originally posted by Desipura
          We don't have a good full back other than Lake and people want him to play forward, bizarre!
          Marko is servicable enough, Lake to go forward. What I think is bizarre is people saying that Jones and Lake will get in each others way. Hasn't anyone every heard of a key forward combination?
          But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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          • Hotdog60
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Aug 2009
            • 5874

            #20
            Re: It's still a Dog's life for Lake

            This doen't look to bad:

            HFF: Panos HF: Jones HFF: Veszpremi
            FP: T.Hill FF: Lake FP: Grant

            Plus Cooney, Dahlhaus, Minson and Hooper. I think we'll have enough fire power, it will how it gets there will be the problem.
            Last edited by Hotdog60; 24-09-2011, 04:33 PM.
            Don't piss off old people
            The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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            • Remi Moses
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 14785

              #21
              Re: It's still a Dog's life for Lake

              Heard Brendan McCartney on the ABC saying He's had a phone call and a long meeting with Brian. Confirmed he's staying and will play full back.
              Some here very quick to write off Lake, will be interested if we get an apology or two if Lake returns to his previous form!

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              • Desipura
                WOOF Member
                • Mar 2008
                • 4344

                #22
                Re: It's still a Dog's life for Lake

                Originally posted by 1eyedog
                I'm thinking Templeton at the end of 82, at least we got a packet for him. Templeton's body was questionable, so is Lake's.



                Marko is servicable enough, Lake to go forward. What I think is bizarre is people saying that Jones and Lake will get in each others way. Hasn't anyone every heard of a key forward combination?
                I don't think Marko has a long term career in the AFL

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                • Desipura
                  WOOF Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 4344

                  #23
                  Re: It's still a Dog's life for Lake

                  Originally posted by Hotdog60
                  This doen't look to bad:

                  HFF: Panos HF: Jones HFF: Veszpremi
                  FP: T.Hill FF: Lake FP: Jones

                  Plus Cooney, Dahlhaus, Minson and Hooper. I think we'll have enough fire power, it will how it gets there will be the problem.
                  So Tom Hill is suddenly in our best 22, ha not even played at Willi 1sts has he?
                  Panos is still on the rookie list and Hooper will be lucky to be on the list in 12 mths time.
                  You will need to come up with somethimhpg a lot better than the above forward line to convince me.
                  Do we have 2 Jones?

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                  • Hotdog60
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 5874

                    #24
                    Re: It's still a Dog's life for Lake

                    Originally posted by Desipura
                    So Tom Hill is suddenly in our best 22, ha not even played at Willi 1sts has he?
                    Panos is still on the rookie list and Hooper will be lucky to be on the list in 12 mths time.
                    You will need to come up with somethimhpg a lot better than the above forward line to convince me.
                    Do we have 2 Jones?
                    Edited I meant Grant. Maybe not straight away but there is potential. Hooper is a iffy but he has played well at Willy so it depends how he presents next year.
                    Don't piss off old people
                    The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                    • 1eyedog
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 13222

                      #25
                      Re: It's still a Dog's life for Lake

                      Originally posted by Desipura
                      I don't think Marko has a long term career in the AFL
                      Me either, but his game can probably hold up long enough next year to have a look at Lake forward. Anyway, I have back and forwarded on this one so I'll leave it alone now.
                      But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                      • Mantis
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 15402

                        #26
                        Re: It's still a Dog's life for Lake

                        Originally posted by theimmortalmike
                        Coons is our highest paid player, Lake is getting roughly what we offered Ward. He is not a leader so I doubt his mental attitude will have as much effect on the club as that of say Boyd or Morris. If you take an optimistic view what if a little faith is all he needed after a year of people questioning his commitment?
                        Was Ward offered over $500k per year?

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                        • kruder
                          Coaching Staff
                          • May 2011
                          • 3817

                          #27
                          Re: It's still a Dog's life for Lake

                          There is a proven formula for a bad year in the AFL it is

                          NO FULL PRESEASON= NO GOOD! Just ask Dids!

                          I'm not sure why he has copped so much flakk.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66533

                            #28
                            Re: It's still a Dog's life for Lake

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            This goes back to when I used the word unless.
                            McCartney speaks to him and says something along the lines of I have heard you might not be happy to stay with us? If Lake's response is yes he'd like to look elsewhere then we agree to that and look at getting the best outcome. If however, Lake says he wants to stay then we check his level of commitment and if that measures up we look at getting him as fit as we can.

                            We need him in the side but he has to want to do it.
                            Heard McCartney on 774 this afternoon. Basically said he spoke to Brian once by phone then had a long meeting with him. The main gist of their discussion was Lake is happy to play with the dogs, and will play fullback. McCartney believes in playing players in the position where they are best suited or have the best ability to play in.
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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44556

                              #29
                              Re: It's still a Dog's life for Lake

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              Heard McCartney on 774 this afternoon. Basically said he spoke to Brian once by phone then had a long meeting with him. The main gist of their discussion was Lake is happy to play with the dogs, and will play fullback. McCartney believes in playing players in the position where they are best suited or have the best ability to play in.
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                              • Remi Moses
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 14785

                                #30
                                Re: It's still a Dog's life for Lake

                                Originally posted by kruder
                                There is a proven formula for a bad year in the AFL it is

                                NO FULL PRESEASON= NO GOOD! Just ask Dids!

                                I'm not sure why he has copped so much flakk.
                                Perfect example Didak. No pre-season looks injured still, getting a pre- season is just unbelieveably important

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