Boyd less than buoyed by sloppy kicking

[Bornadog]

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Post of the day. Absolutely 100% spot on. Does anyone count how many shots you actually hit in tennis. It's where you hit it. So what are we to do with Capt Boyd?

Pretty easy really. Boyd is the number one contested possession getter in the AFL, his strike rate with handball is 80%, but kicking woeful. Solution, don't kick it, handball to a player who knows how to.

[westdog54]

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Sherman, Tutt, Dahlhaus, Griffen, Cooney - do I need to go on.

Problem is only two of those five played yesterday, and of those two one is a shadow of his former self and the other is a second year player who quite fankly shouldn't have to bel shouldered with that sort of responsibility.

Boyd is better than what he showed yesterday. A lot better.

[AndrewP6]

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Funnily enough, I commented last year on Boyd's poor disposal, and was shot down. It really irked me to read him saying he wasn't going to lose sleep over it - bloody hell, you're the captain, giving the ball back to the opposition frequently, and you think you can improve it "a bit"? Far out, we're in for a long year. As has been stated, for someone in his position, he's awfully good at not taking responsibility for his weaknesses.

[AndrewP6]

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Interesting. So you reckon coaches go like this...

Ok boys, if Boyd gets the ball in the forward line, hedge him a bit, cover his options and as soon as he disposes of it, more often than not, we'll get the pill back.

Absolutely they would be. They can afford to devote more time to the damaging midfielders.

[Missing Dog]

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Keep at it Matty! You'll get it eventually. Only been 25 years since your first kick, still time to get it right.

What. A. Joke.

On any given week I'm amazed at the number of AFL players that lack one or more of the fundamental skills to play the game. How do they get this far? Or is the talent pool that shallow?

[MrMahatma]

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So who kicks it?

Said it years ago, Boyd needs to take more care with his kicking, take the 'safe' option and don't believe he is the second coming of Nathan Buckley.

Agree with this. He tries to drill stab passes. Just get it from a-to-b!

[Desipura]

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Pretty easy really. Boyd is the number one contested possession getter in the AFL, his strike rate with handball is 80%, but kicking woeful. Solution, don't kick it, handball to a player who knows how to.

What if Cross is beside him? Do they handball to each other and play hot potato?

[Bornadog]

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What if Cross is beside him? Do they handball to each other and play hot potato?

Yes they can handball to each other running towards goal until a kicker appears

[Sedat]

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Said it years ago, Boyd needs to take more care with his kicking, take the 'safe' option and don't believe he is the second coming of Nathan Buckley.

In the words of Dirty Harry, "a man's got to know his limitations".

This is the one thing that infuriates me with regard to Boyd. He does so many things wonderfully well but his ambitions exceed his talent level when it comes to disposal by foot - he is not Buckley, or Jarman, or Gilbee and he never will be. Cross is actually a better distributor by foot than Boyd because he works within his limitations - actually Crossy doesn't trust his foot skills anywhere near enough but that's a topic for another day. Tom Liberatore has much better disposal by foot that Boyd, likewise does Jobe Watson. They weight their kicks to give the oncoming player the best chance to run onto the ball. Boyd more often than not tries to spear a 'perfect' pass that invariably ends up being anything but perfect. Because he is such a warrior and a tireless worker on the training track and in matches, he almost bristles at any suggestion that he has this deficiency that hurts his team.

[Missing-Dog]

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If Boyd hit 50% of his targets he would be borderline elite..

[Bornadog]

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If Boyd hit 50% of his targets he would be borderline elite..

His average effective disposals in 2011 was 62%, so he is elite based on your criteria.

For comparison with highest possession gatherers, Judd is at 67%, Josh Kennedy 62%, Priddis 62%, Swan 69% and the best is Pendulbury at 78%.

Had a bad day on Sunday with 53% effective.

Facts speak for them selves, not perception or memory of a couple of clangers.

[Cyberdoggie]

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So who kicks it?

Said it years ago, Boyd needs to take more care with his kicking, take the 'safe' option and don't believe he is the second coming of Nathan Buckley.

Exactly that's his problem. Tries to do too much, when he stops trying to nail the perfect stab pass he doesn't have a problem. Someone needs to tell him he's not the most gifted footballer skills wise and he should be happy with that.

[Mantis]

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His average effective disposals in 2011 was 62%, so he is elite based on your criteria.

For comparison with highest possession gatherers, Judd is at 67%, Josh Kennedy 62%, Priddis 62%, Swan 69% and the best is Pendulbury at 78%.

Had a bad day on Sunday with 53% effective.

Facts speak for them selves, not perception or memory of a couple of clangers.

How is 'effective' defined by this stats provider?

[Doc26]

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His average effective disposals in 2011 was 62%, so he is elite based on your criteria.

For comparison with highest possession gatherers, Judd is at 67%, Josh Kennedy 62%, Priddis 62%, Swan 69% and the best is Pendulbury at 78%.

Had a bad day on Sunday with 53% effective.

Facts speak for them selves, not perception or memory of a couple of clangers.

This discussion has deja vu written all over it.

We really need to break down Boyd's effective stats in particular those taken by foot.

To gauge what many on here are often referring to re Boyd and his ineffective disposal there would need to be a statistical measurement which assesses the number of times a disposal by foot should've in most instances been effective but ended up being ineffective (not necessarily a turnover or clanger), if that makes sense.

[AndrewP6]

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Exactly that's his problem. Tries to do too much, when he stops trying to nail the perfect stab pass he doesn't have a problem. Someone needs to tell him he's not the most gifted footballer skills wise and he should be happy with that.

But you know he won't be, the hackles will go up