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  • Missing Dog
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8501

    #46
    Re: Lost Dogs home plea

    Originally posted by ledge
    My friends a Magpie supporter and thinks we get a better deal, a hat , pin etc, he told me Collingwood has 60,000 members and get bugger all for membership.
    Told me they used to do it.
    I have three mates who were Magpie members were so badly treated they became afl member for the price of their social club membership.

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    • westdog54
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 6683

      #47
      Re: Lost Dogs home plea

      Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
      I'll call it.

      A premiership won by playing 'Saints footy' would be just as tainted as those won by the salary cap cheats.

      I'd enjoy it, I'd celebrate it, but in the back of my mind I would know that we had contributed to make football worse.
      The bolded bit is a little extreme IMO but I understand the sentiment.

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #48
        Re: Lost Dogs home plea

        Originally posted by westdog54
        The bolded bit is a little extreme IMO but I understand the sentiment.
        Very extreme of Jim. Does anyone really gives a stuff that Carlton cheated, WC had players with drug history or Swans got every concession possible when they won premierships? There are even arguments if Geelong would have been as good without the good father/son picks at the time. Into the future Carlton and West coast tanked to maximize better draft picks and have benefitted.

        Why is it more tainted playing a terrible style instead of say having the riches and resources of say Collingwood?

        Smorgon a few times in the past has talked about the need to play 'attractive' football to win fans. I'd say a successful side wins more fans.

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #49
          Re: Lost Dogs home plea

          Originally posted by ledge
          My friends a Magpie supporter and thinks we get a better deal, a hat , pin etc, he told me Collingwood has 60,000 members and get bugger all for membership.
          Told me they used to do it.
          Bugger all except the opportunity to watch a side that's played in recent 3 grand finals and won one of them.
          Really the hats, scarfs, key rings and even the seats are BS. People mainly buy memberships to support the team and want to see them win.
          Who really got the better deal?

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          • Remi Moses
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 14785

            #50
            Re: Lost Dogs home plea

            Originally posted by Chops
            Very extreme of Jim. Does anyone really gives a stuff that Carlton cheated, WC had players with drug history or Swans got every concession possible when they won premierships? There are even arguments if Geelong would have been as good without the good father/son picks at the time. Into the future Carlton and West coast tanked to maximize better draft picks and have benefitted.

            Why is it more tainted playing a terrible style instead of say having the riches and resources of say Collingwood?

            Smorgon a few times in the past has talked about the need to play 'attractive' football to win fans. I'd say a successful side wins more fans.
            Agree entirely. Watch if the pies fall this season ( insert most teams) the membership will drop
            In all honesty If you're winning every week the average joe doesn't care.

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            • Remi Moses
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 14785

              #51
              Re: Lost Dogs home plea

              Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
              I'll call it.

              A premiership won by playing 'Saints footy' would be just as tainted as those won by the salary cap cheats.

              I'd enjoy it, I'd celebrate it, but in the back of my mind I would know that we had contributed to make football worse.
              What a silly thing to say!
              So someone goes outside the rules to win and another plays within the rules of the sport to win? Bizarre to put it mildly

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              • Eastdog
                WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                • Feb 2012
                • 18157

                #52
                Re: Lost Dogs home plea

                Originally posted by ledge
                My friends a Magpie supporter and thinks we get a better deal, a hat , pin etc, he told me Collingwood has 60,000 members and get bugger all for membership.
                Told me they used to do it.
                Another factor is that some people simply don't want too pay too much for membership either they want to save money or their unable to afford it. There is only so much a club can do to attract members and at the end of the day it is up to them.
                "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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                • Sockeye Salmon
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 6365

                  #53
                  Re: Lost Dogs home plea

                  Originally posted by Remi Moses
                  What a silly thing to say!
                  So someone goes outside the rules to win and another plays within the rules of the sport to win? Bizarre to put it mildly
                  What's the quote about minding it for our children?

                  We have a responsibility to the game as well. 180 runs per day nearly ruined cricket in the 1960's.

                  If every game consisted of that boring crap we dished up then footy would quickly become a minor sport.

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                  • ledge
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 14033

                    #54
                    Re: Lost Dogs home plea

                    Originally posted by Chops
                    Bugger all except the opportunity to watch a side that's played in recent 3 grand finals and won one of them.
                    Really the hats, scarfs, key rings and even the seats are BS. People mainly buy memberships to support the team and want to see them win.
                    Who really got the better deal?
                    Point my mate is saying is why be a member/supporter put money in and you could just be a barracker and get the same.
                    Hats keyrings etc promote the club and show you have given to the club and are part of it.
                    Bring back the biff

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                    • comrade
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 17847

                      #55
                      Re: Lost Dogs home plea

                      Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                      What's the quote about minding it for our children?

                      We have a responsibility to the game as well. 180 runs per day nearly ruined cricket in the 1960's.

                      If every game consisted of that boring crap we dished up then footy would quickly become a minor sport.
                      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #56
                        Re: Lost Dogs home plea

                        Originally posted by ledge
                        Point my mate is saying is why be a member/supporter put money in and you could just be a barracker and get the same.
                        Hats keyrings etc promote the club and show you have given to the club and are part of it.
                        The main point in buying a membership is you get a discount over buying at the gate each week and the money goes to your club instead of the stadium.
                        Do you really the merchandise makes a difference in why people buy membership? They can buy better quality and for less than a membership price at the shop.

                        Of course wearing colours, hats, etc promote the club but they don't add much real value to the membership.

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                        • AndrewP6
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 8142

                          #57
                          Re: Lost Dogs home plea

                          Originally posted by ledge
                          Point my mate is saying is why be a member/supporter put money in and you could just be a barracker and get the same.
                          Hats keyrings etc promote the club and show you have given to the club and are part of it.
                          Have to agree, several of my workmates support other clubs and comment on the little value of the 'extras', and they are impressed when I tell them what is included in our member packs.
                          [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #58
                            Re: Lost Dogs home plea

                            Originally posted by AndrewP6
                            Have to agree, several of my workmates support other clubs and comment on the little value of the 'extras', and they are impressed when I tell them what is included in our member packs.
                            I bet they are spewing, you get the keyrings and all they get is to see their club as serious challengers.

                            I suppose they are Demon fans. I'd take the leather arm patches for the tweed jacket over that ridiculous seat warmer.

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                            • AndrewP6
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 8142

                              #59
                              Re: Lost Dogs home plea

                              Originally posted by Chops
                              I bet they are spewing, you get the keyrings, they get to see there club as serious challengers.
                              They are spewing at the moment, one barracks for Collingwood, one for Geelong.
                              [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                              • ledge
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 14033

                                #60
                                Re: Lost Dogs home plea

                                Originally posted by Chops
                                The main point in buying a membership is you get a discount over buying at the gate each week and the money goes to your club instead of the stadium.
                                Do you really the merchandise makes a difference in why people buy membership? They can buy better quality and for less than a membership price at the shop. Of course wearing colours, hats, etc promote the club but they don't add much real value to the membership.
                                Yep I buy my daughter junior membership every year for the merchandise she loves it and hardly goes to a game.

                                Pet membership doesnt get animals into games, either does the baby one (forget what its called) dont underestimate what membership with merchandise added gets.

                                Hawthorn played the pets membership first and added to their figures membership by about 10,000, it was called a joke at the time but it bought a heap of new members with it.
                                Its not all about going to games.
                                One poster here has already said 3 of his mates went to AFL membership because their club one gave them nothing.
                                How many members has Collingwood lost to this who knows but thats three less we know of just mentioning it on a bulldog site.
                                Bring back the biff

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