Western Bulldogs star Adam Cooney admits he will never regain his best form

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  • Sockeye Salmon
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 6365

    #31
    Re: Western Bulldogs star Adam Cooney admits he will never regain his best form

    Originally posted by ledge
    Choco Royal did okay, I believe he had 2 knee recos before he even started VFL/AFL
    Cooney hasn't had a reco.

    An ACL can get fixed and can improve. Cooney has bone-on-bone, it can't be fixed and it won't get better. All it can be is managed.

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    • The Bulldogs Bite
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 11409

      #32
      Re: Western Bulldogs star Adam Cooney admits he will never regain his best form

      Originally posted by gogriff
      They can set his program, but they can't force the intensity or self belief. Maybe he needs to talk to someone who has been in his position and thrived, I know he issued a correction of sorts but his comments below were very negative.
      You may some really good points, and it also reminds me of an interview he did earlier this year. They asked some questions about his 2011 season, and more specifically, his attitude and morale. Adam noted that it was quite poor, and he was getting pretty down about his situation. This was all in response to him not being included in the leadership group, by the way.

      It seems he is still dealing with this.

      As you say, he can reach elite fitness through cross training but it does/will require a lot more effort.

      I'm not sure it's just a fitness issue though. You only have to look at his kicking to see that the knee is clearly impacting his game. He was a very good user of the ball a few years ago, but I'd say he's quite average now.
      W00F!

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      • boydogs
        WOOF Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 5845

        #33
        Re: Western Bulldogs star Adam Cooney admits he will never regain his best form

        Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
        I'm not sure it's just a fitness issue though. You only have to look at his kicking to see that the knee is clearly impacting his game. He was a very good user of the ball a few years ago, but I'd say he's quite average now.
        He's definitely limited by his condition, but we have to get him positive and getting the most out of himself.
        If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

        Formerly gogriff

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #34
          Re: Western Bulldogs star Adam Cooney admits he will never regain his best form

          Scientists can grow cartlidge on a plate at the moment....unfortunately our luck it wont help him till hese about 33.

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          • Mofra
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 15118

            #35
            Re: Western Bulldogs star Adam Cooney admits he will never regain his best form

            Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
            As you say, he can reach elite fitness through cross training but it does/will require a lot more effort.
            Fitness is a fairly open term though - technically, professional sumo westlers are some of the fittest people in the world and fitter than marathon runners.

            He can do all the swimming and bike riding in the world, it's the application of explosiveness particular to sprinting from a standing start combined the required agility of AFL football that is holding him back, and that aspect of his preparation has to be carefully managed due to his degerative knee condition.

            I have little doubt that no stone would be left unturned in getting Cooney back to about as good physical condition as he can get.
            Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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            • Missing-Dog
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 3102

              #36
              Re: Western Bulldogs star Adam Cooney admits he will never regain his best form

              The man is not in denial and knows his limits which is a good thing. He will slowly get more and more of the ball and will start running harder throughout the year. Cooney to get 25disposals against Melbourne and 2 goals to his name!

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              • Grantysghost
                Bouncing Strong
                • Apr 2010
                • 19389

                #37
                Re: Western Bulldogs star Adam Cooney admits he will never regain his best form

                This is a much better go at explaining it. Interesting timing considering he has already done media this week. "On the way back" rather than "Probably never going to get back to my best". Hopefully he rips the dees a new one this week....

                On the way back
                Last edited by Grantysghost; 20-04-2012, 09:09 AM.
                BT COME BACK!​

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                • Desipura
                  WOOF Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 4344

                  #38
                  Re: Western Bulldogs star Adam Cooney admits he will never regain his best form

                  At the moment a 70% fit Cooney is just an ordinary player. Unless he is able to get a 85% fitness base, I cannot see what he could offer us that a fully fit competent player potentially could. The next 12 months will tell us alot about Cooney's future I believe.

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                  • boydogs
                    WOOF Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 5845

                    #39
                    Re: Western Bulldogs star Adam Cooney admits he will never regain his best form

                    Originally posted by Mofra
                    He can do all the swimming and bike riding in the world, it's the application of explosiveness particular to sprinting from a standing start combined the required agility of AFL football that is holding him back, and that aspect of his preparation has to be carefully managed due to his degerative knee condition.
                    5:10 - 5:46 Mof.

                    If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                    Formerly gogriff

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                    • Topdog
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 7483

                      #40
                      Re: Western Bulldogs star Adam Cooney admits he will never regain his best form

                      Originally posted by gogriff
                      Having witnessed him at his best and this year do you believe he is being 100% honest with that assessment?

                      I certainly don't

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                      • Mofra
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 15118

                        #41
                        Re: Western Bulldogs star Adam Cooney admits he will never regain his best form

                        Originally posted by gogriff
                        It doesn't really seem to be there from my eyeballing him this year to be honest, and with the degenerative condition he'll have to be managed more closely through the season than his pre-2008 days.

                        If he does get back to his best great, but I see him becoming more of a non-tagged very good player.
                        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                        • boydogs
                          WOOF Member
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 5845

                          #42
                          Re: Western Bulldogs star Adam Cooney admits he will never regain his best form

                          Originally posted by Topdog
                          Having witnessed him at his best and this year do you believe he is being 100% honest with that assessment?

                          I certainly don't
                          It actually contradicts his statement in the OP's article about taking the game on.

                          Originally posted by Mofra
                          It doesn't really seem to be there from my eyeballing him this year to be honest, and with the degenerative condition he'll have to be managed more closely through the season than his pre-2008 days.

                          If he does get back to his best great, but I see him becoming more of a non-tagged very good player.
                          It's a frustrating one, the harder he tries the worse it will get. Just something that will require ongoing monitoring and management.

                          My main point is he needs to keep his chin up to get the most out of himself.
                          If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

                          Formerly gogriff

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                          • Ghost Dog
                            WOOF Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 9404

                            #43
                            Re: Western Bulldogs star Adam Cooney admits he will never regain his best form

                            Played alright yesterday. I'm over all the hand wringing about Cooney. Doing his job.
                            You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                            • AndrewP6
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 8142

                              #44
                              Re: Western Bulldogs star Adam Cooney admits he will never regain his best form

                              Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                              Played alright yesterday. I'm over all the hand wringing about Cooney. Doing his job.
                              Same here, if he's contributing something, I'm OK with it.
                              [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                              • azabob
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 15484

                                #45
                                Re: Western Bulldogs star Adam Cooney admits he will never regain his best form

                                Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                                Played alright yesterday. I'm over all the hand wringing about Cooney. Doing his job.
                                What do you mean by hand wrining? Media or supporters?
                                More of an In Bruges guy?

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