Young Bulldogs give Lake a new leash on life

[Raw Toast]

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Imagine if we'd traded him to Hawthorn for not a huge amount and he was dominating for them

I was on the fence with him last year, but am super happy to have him back dominating and in at least close to career best form.

[KT31]

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What I couldn't understand last year was everyone was happy to acknowledge Cooney had an injury and thus his low output was acceptable, yet Lake, who'd had 3 seperate surgeries was not producing to his usual level not because of injury but because of attitude problems.

I couldn't understand it then, and now that his body is right and he's back dominating games I understand it even less. People point to his public demeanor as proof of his attitude issues, but personally if I was a back-to-back All Australian with a banged up body trying to push through the pain and was copping it from every media outlet, and even my own coaching group I'd be less than jovial too!

Major problem was with him being called soft from coaching staff etc.
This ,IMO, did a major injustice to Brian and should never happened.

[comrade]

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Major problem was with him being called soft from coaching staff etc.
This ,IMO, did a major injustice to Brian and should never happened.

I think it's fairly well known that Lake doesn't take training/preparation as seriously as the likes of Boyd/Cross/Picken etc and I reckon his attitude towards his rehab would have had a lot to do with the frustration from the coaching staff.

[Mantis]

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I couldn't understand it then, and now that his body is right and he's back dominating games I understand it even less. People point to his public demeanor as proof of his attitude issues, but personally if I was a back-to-back All Australian with a banged up body trying to push through the pain and was copping it from every media outlet, and even my own coaching group I'd be less than jovial too!

I guess the issues arise when the medical team give you the 'a-ok ' to get stuck into it, but for someone or another you're still labouring. After the fact it was found his injuries weren't fully healed, but at the time it wasn't that clear cut.

[LostDoggy]

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I guess the issues arise when the medical team give you the 'a-ok ' to get stuck into it, but for someone or another you're still labouring. After the fact it was found his injuries weren't fully healed, but at the time it wasn't that clear cut.

Why did the medical team give him the 'a-ok' then? What went wrong?

[Sockeye Salmon]

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Why did the medical team give him the 'a-ok' then? What went wrong?

Mis-diagnosis. Not every problem shows up in a scan.

The doctors said he was OK and Lake said, 'no, I'm not'.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Mis-diagnosis. Not every problem shows up in a scan.

The doctors said he was OK and Lake said, 'no, I'm not'.

My issue is that the medical team AND our coaching staff refused to listen to Brian. In essence, they thought they knew more about Brian's body that he did.

That's piss poor.

If it was Boyd, Cross or Gia then they would have been heard. The whole bit about Brian not being 'as professional' shouldn't count for jack when it's so plainly obvious he was struggling physically. Especially given the fact that he had proven he was strong enough to play through injuries in previous seasons.

Just really, really bad management.

[Mantis]

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My issue is that the medical team AND our coaching staff refused to listen to Brian. In essence, they thought they knew more about Brian's body that he did.

That's piss poor.

If it was Boyd, Cross or Gia then they would have been heard. The whole bit about Brian not being 'as professional' shouldn't count for jack when it's so plainly obvious he was struggling physically. Especially given the fact that he had proven he was strong enough to play through injuries in previous seasons.

Just really, really bad management.

To be fair there were days that Brian had full confidence in his body and was able to move freely, it was just that he kept running into roadblocks and could never get full confidence in his body. When it was found that there was a NEW issue the correct procedures were followed.

[Maddog37]

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The only issue I have had with the whole Brian Lake problem last year was the public airing of dirty laundry that made the club look divided.

[LostDoggy]

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To be fair there were days that Brian had full confidence in his body and was able to move freely, it was just that he kept running into roadblocks and could never get full confidence in his body. When it was found that there was a NEW issue the correct procedures were followed.

It definitely shows a breakdown in trust though. I doubt anybody deliberately set out to do the wrong thing, but they should've trusted him to be honest with them, and taken him at his word.

Of course, my opinion is 100% uneducated, wasn't there, don't know all the facts.

[G-Mo77]

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My issue is that the medical team AND our coaching staff refused to listen to Brian. In essence, they thought they knew more about Brian's body that he did.

That's piss poor.

It was the same scenario with Aker's "hamstring injury" wasn't it. They claimed he was good to go, Aker said he wasn't yet most jump on Aker who apparently doesn't know anything about his body and took the medical staff's side in that scenario.

[Bornadog]

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Some people have a lower threshold of pain than others do and they think they have a problem, but when the medicos check there is nothing showing up in scans etc, so its a mental thing.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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Some people have a lower threshold of pain than others do and they think they have a problem, but when the medicos check there is nothing showing up in scans etc, so its a mental thing.

Except in Lake's case he genuinely was hurt.

I don't think anyone would question Lake's ability to cope with pain after some of his finals performances under duress.

[Maddog37]

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Also Lake is not a delusional pathalogic liar.

[Happy Days]

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Some people have a lower threshold of pain than others do and they think they have a problem, but when the medicos check there is nothing showing up in scans etc, so its a mental thing.

Injuries not showing up on a scan and being misdiagnosed by club doctors isn't unique to Lake or those with "low thresholds".