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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 65579

    Dogs to consider putting Cooney on ice until 2013

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    WESTERN Bulldogs coach Brendan McCartney hasn't ruled out the prospect of resting the Brownlow medallist Adam Cooney for the last part of the season.

    The Bulldogs will be without Cooney for a third consecutive week with knee soreness when they take on Carlton at Etihad Stadium on Saturday night.

    Given the degenerative nature of the 26-year-old's knee problem, coupled with the fact the Bulldogs are 14th and out of finals contention, it seems logical the Bulldogs would consider putting Cooney on ice for the rest of the season to enable him to start afresh in 2013, and perhaps maximise the time he has left in the game.

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    McCartney was non-committal on the concept, but didn’t reject it either.

    "There's still a lot to be played out with that," he said at Whitten Oval on Tuesday.

    "(There's) still seven weeks to go and the last thing on our mind is looking at next year. We want to play better footy than we've played and we want all of our list to keep progressing and learning how we want them to play and keep working on their individual games, and Adam's part of that."

    Pressed further on the idea of resting Cooney, McCartney said: "Possibly."

    One senior Bulldog who will probably return, according to the coach, is veteran Daniel Giansiracusa, after recovering from a stress-related foot injury.

    If he proves his fitness for the clash with the Blues, Giansiracusa - the Dogs' equal-leading goalkicker this season with Shaun Higgins on 18 - will return up to a fortnight ahead of schedule.

    "He's brought his length of absence forward with some really good rehab, which is a good example to the younger players," McCartney said.

    "The rest has worked. It needed a rest - it was inflamed and it was a pretty sore foot. He probably played two weeks too long with it, which seasoned players have a way of doing (because) they feel they need to be out there helping younger teammates."

    The Bulldogs will also be without defender Lukas Markovic, who has suffered another hamstring injury, the seriousness of which will be confirmed by scans on Tuesday.

    McCartney also elaborated on his post-match observation - made after his side's 72-point loss to Hawthorn on Sunday - that some experienced Bulldogs had at times been guilty of "walking around aimlessly".

    "What I meant (by) 'aimlessly' was there are times in a game where there's another stoppage, well set the stoppage up; if you've lost possession of the ball, get on your opponent or a free opponent; and if you have the ball in your hands and we need to get the ball moving and you’re in the way, get out of the way so that someone else can get in there; or if you're the free player, get busy and draw the ball," he said.

    "It was an apt description of what happened to some of our players."

    McCartney said he wants his team to win more contested ball - the Hawks beat them 156-116 in this area - and move it quicker against Carlton.
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  • divvydan
    WOOF Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 1502

    #2
    Re: Dogs to consider putting Cooney on ice until 2013

    Heard McCartney speaking about Cooney. Seemed like the journalist had already decided that the story was going to be Cooney resting until 2013 and just kept asking until getting an answer that wouldn't go completely against the story.

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    • Desipura
      WOOF Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 4344

      #3
      Re: Dogs to consider putting Cooney on ice until 2013

      What does this achieve, if his knee is shot, no amount of rest will make it better.
      If it cannot be improved, we should pay him out.

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      • Missing Dog
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8501

        #4
        Re: Dogs to consider putting Cooney on ice until 2013

        Originally posted by Desipura
        What does this achieve, if his knee is shot, no amount of rest will make it better.
        If it cannot be improved, we should pay him out.
        Perhaps they want to send him overseas to try something new??? Better to do it now then in preseason.

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        • AndrewP6
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2009
          • 8142

          #5
          Re: Dogs to consider putting Cooney on ice until 2013

          Back to contested ball....
          [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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          • Desipura
            WOOF Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 4344

            #6
            Re: Dogs to consider putting Cooney on ice until 2013

            Originally posted by bulldogsman
            Perhaps they want to send him overseas to try something new??? Better to do it now then in preseason.
            If that's the case, why did they wait until now? It was widely known that it was not going to get better a long time ago.

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            • Dancin' Douggy
              WOOF Member
              • Oct 2007
              • 2877

              #7
              Re: Dogs to consider putting Cooney on ice until 2013

              Put him on ice, explore every medical avenue.
              If he's really gone pay him out.
              Don't want to make the poor guy a cripple.
              What terrible terrible luck for him and the club

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #8
                Re: Dogs to consider putting Cooney on ice until 2013

                Not sure Cooney is the type to try anything or everything to get his knee better.
                Doubt a break will achieve much

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                • Go_Dogs
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 10062

                  #9
                  Re: Dogs to consider putting Cooney on ice until 2013

                  Originally posted by bulldogsman
                  Perhaps they want to send him overseas to try something new??? Better to do it now then in preseason.
                  Agreed, hopefully the club is looking at all possible options, including overseas. If there is any chance of improving the knee, we must explore it. It's already obvious that the management program(s?) of the past few years isn't helping at all and we must try some new approaches.
                  Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                  • Remi Moses
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 14785

                    #10
                    Re: Dogs to consider putting Cooney on ice until 2013

                    Don't see the point of this.I'm sure they've exercised every option, and I just reckon it's futile.
                    Terrible for the club and Adam, and I feel we've been robbed of seeing a great player

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                    • Sedat
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 11046

                      #11
                      Re: Dogs to consider putting Cooney on ice until 2013

                      Originally posted by bulldogsman
                      Perhaps they want to send him overseas to try something new??? Better to do it now then in preseason.
                      This. Fly him to Germany and do whatever it takes to improve him physically. He has more talent and brilliance in his little finger than 3/4 of the list so let's exhaust all options to make him healthier and get him at or near his peak again. If it doesn't work out, life after footy beckons, but the current scenario is doing nobody any favours.
                      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                      • Ghost Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 9404

                        #12
                        Re: Dogs to consider putting Cooney on ice until 2013

                        Originally posted by Sedat
                        This. Fly him to Germany and do whatever it takes to improve him physically. He has more talent and brilliance in his little finger than 3/4 of the list so let's exhaust all options to make him healthier and get him at or near his peak again. If it doesn't work out, life after footy beckons, but the current scenario is doing nobody any favours.
                        Fly him anywhere that might help him. But not Hong Kong...
                        You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                        • Bumper Bulldogs
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 2869

                          #13
                          Re: Dogs to consider putting Cooney on ice until 2013

                          Originally posted by Sedat
                          This. Fly him to Germany and do whatever it takes to improve him physically. He has more talent and brilliance in his little finger than 3/4 of the list so let's exhaust all options to make him healthier and get him at or near his peak again. If it doesn't work out, life after footy beckons, but the current scenario is doing nobody any favours.
                          Spot on and the time is now not in 4to6 weeks. Down the track. It will also. Allow am opportunity to give a young bulldog a ganratee of a few game in a row.

                          Win Win for all concerned. Guess I miss his class.
                          BB.

                          Looking forward - Naughton, Darcy and JUH. It will be the envy of everyone.

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                          • Missing-Dog
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 3102

                            #14
                            Re: Dogs to consider putting Cooney on ice until 2013

                            Oh god could you imagine an 80% fit Cooney! It would automatically give other teams a head ache not knowing wether to tag Coon, Griffen or both.. Either way it would change a hell of a lot! Like when he played Carlton last year got me off my chair!

                            Send him to Germany and do what ever operation is needed then give him time to recover during the rest of the season and off season.. Pre season take a slow approach with him and just get him right for next year. No point leaving him out and not doing anything about his knee, we all know he is our best player by a long shot if fully fit and at his peak.

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                            • mjp
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 7240

                              #15
                              Re: Dogs to consider putting Cooney on ice until 2013

                              Originally posted by Sedat
                              This. Fly him to Germany...
                              Kobe Bryant / Alex Rodriguez style?

                              I love it.
                              What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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