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  • G-Mo77
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Apr 2007
    • 9901

    #16
    Re: Bulldogs show faith in youth

    Originally posted by Maddog37
    Maybe they feel that the older guys can breach the gap in our list. Rather than recruit 24-27 year olds just hang on to the older guys a bit longer until Dal etc get games under their belts.
    Possibly. They are taking a spot on the list though which is just as important.

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    • chef
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2008
      • 14746

      #17
      Re: Bulldogs show faith in youth

      Originally posted by G-Mo77
      NOT interested in Travis Cloke or other free agents.
      Serious?

      We have a heap of salary cap rooms, so we would be stupid not to try and get someone.
      The curse is dead.

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      • Remi Moses
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 14785

        #18
        Re: Bulldogs show faith in youth

        Should have been done at the start of the season IMO.
        The "see how they go" brigade won't by a membership if we're battling at 1 and 5.
        Sell the future it's the only way, and the bumping up the recruiting and coaching is good news!

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        • AndrewP6
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2009
          • 8142

          #19
          Re: Bulldogs show faith in youth

          I'm not convinced in the wisdom of flat-out refusing to look at any FA. If one was around that fitted a need, and a deal can be done, why the hell not? I'm not saying get someone in the twilight of their career, but to me, flat-out rejecting the idea is unwise.
          [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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          • Remi Moses
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 14785

            #20
            Re: Bulldogs show faith in youth

            Originally posted by AndrewP6
            I'm not convinced in the wisdom of flat-out refusing to look at any FA. If one was around that fitted a need, and a deal can be done, why the hell not? I'm not saying get someone in the twilight of their career, but to me, flat-out rejecting the idea is unwise.
            Most of the free agents are in the second half of their careers.Pointless if we picked up someone just for the sake of it.

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            • Dancin' Douggy
              WOOF Member
              • Oct 2007
              • 2877

              #21
              Re: Bulldogs show faith in youth

              Maybe keeping old guys past their use by date is the 'new tanking'.

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              • AndrewP6
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2009
                • 8142

                #22
                Re: Bulldogs show faith in youth

                Originally posted by Remi Moses
                Most of the free agents are in the second half of their careers.Pointless if we picked up someone just for the sake of it.
                Correct, as I said, we don't want someone in the twilight of their career.
                [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                • chef
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 14746

                  #23
                  Re: Bulldogs show faith in youth

                  Originally posted by AndrewP6
                  I'm not convinced in the wisdom of flat-out refusing to look at any FA. If one was around that fitted a need, and a deal can be done, why the hell not? I'm not saying get someone in the twilight of their career, but to me, flat-out rejecting the idea is unwise.
                  Agree.

                  We can still find someone who can fill a role/need, teach and be a role model/example for the kids in our term. We could find someone in their mid 20's which means we could get up to 6 seasons out of them.

                  Why do we need to rule this out in August
                  The curse is dead.

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                  • Mofra
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 15116

                    #24
                    Re: Bulldogs show faith in youth

                    Re: the older generation for an extra year - is this not a factor in list management as well?

                    Show a small amount of loyalty for 10+ players to ask it of other players - Griff didn't walk to Essendon despite a larger offer (GWS establishment was a black swan event).
                    Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                    • Bulldog4life
                      WOOF Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 9607

                      #25
                      Re: Bulldogs show faith in youth

                      Originally posted by chef
                      Agree.

                      We can still find someone who can fill a role/need, teach and be a role model/example for the kids in our term. We could find someone in their mid 20's which means we could get up to 6 seasons out of them.

                      Why do we need to rule this out in August
                      Agree. Got to keep an open mind on all scenarios.

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                      • westdog54
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 6686

                        #26
                        Re: Bulldogs show faith in youth

                        Originally posted by chef
                        Agree.

                        We can still find someone who can fill a role/need, teach and be a role model/example for the kids in our term. We could find someone in their mid 20's which means we could get up to 6 seasons out of them.

                        Why do we need to rule this out in August


                        Who on that list fits your criteria?

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #27
                          Re: Bulldogs show faith in youth

                          Originally posted by bulldogsman
                          I don't understand the need for both Gilbee and Hargrave to be kept on. I think a call needs to be made on at least one of them.
                          We also need to be careful not to do a Melbourne: Sing the youth song, dump respected senior leaders and in the process convince every single player on your list that it's every man for himself.

                          Originally posted by Maddog37
                          Not sure this is an ideal strategy MW.
                          I should get you blokes to proof-read my websites for me.

                          Originally posted by chef
                          Serious?

                          We have a heap of salary cap rooms, so we would be stupid not to try and get someone.
                          We'd also be stupid to tie up too much of our salary cap on speculative players. Better to develop a young star and then have the cap room to pay him enough that he stays.

                          Originally posted by AndrewP6
                          I'm not convinced in the wisdom of flat-out refusing to look at any FA. If one was around that fitted a need, and a deal can be done, why the hell not? I'm not saying get someone in the twilight of their career, but to me, flat-out rejecting the idea is unwise.
                          To be an unrestricted free agent, they have to have played at least 8 years at the one club, and not be in the top 10 paid players at their club (unless he's played more than 10 and come out of contract twice since 8 *phew*). (If I'm wrong, please don't hesitate to correct me).

                          8-10 years = Ranges from 26-27 and not in the top 10 at his club, to 28-29. Not really ideal fodder for a rebuild. Refresh, yes, but that's a whole other argument. These players are better suited to clubs on the way up, in my view.

                          Originally posted by Mofra
                          Re: the older generation for an extra year - is this not a factor in list management as well?

                          Show a small amount of loyalty for 10+ players to ask it of other players - Griff didn't walk to Essendon despite a larger offer (GWS establishment was a black swan event).
                          Exactamundo!

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                          • chef
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 14746

                            #28
                            Re: Bulldogs show faith in youth

                            Originally posted by westdog54
                            http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsartic...1/default.aspx

                            Who on that list fits your criteria?
                            Chris Knights, Jed Adcock, Jordan Russell, Matthew Bate, Jared Rivers and Jarred Moore are all players IMO that could add to our list without stunting the development of our kids and more importantly could be available.

                            There is plenty more I would like but they probably won't want to change clubs.

                            No one there that you would like in our team?
                            The curse is dead.

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                            • azabob
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15481

                              #29
                              Re: Bulldogs show faith in youth

                              Originally posted by chef
                              Chris Knights, Jed Adcock, Jordan Russell, Matthew Bate, Jared Rivers and Jarred Moore are all players IMO that could add to our list without stunting the development of our kids and more importantly could be available.

                              There is plenty more I would like but they probably won't want to change clubs.

                              No one there that you would like in our team?
                              I don't think the players in bold would add value a all.
                              More of an In Bruges guy?

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                              • chef
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 14746

                                #30
                                Re: Bulldogs show faith in youth

                                Originally posted by azabob
                                I don't think the players in bold would add value a all.
                                Fair enough each to their own.

                                I don't expect us to go after a star from another team, but we could pick someone up who can fill a hole and perform a role for us.
                                The curse is dead.

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