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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 65611

    Dogs back Giansiracusa

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    THE Western Bulldogs expect veteran forward Daniel Giansiracusa to bounce back from injury and play a key role in guiding the club's young talent through next season.

    Giansiracusa had the knee injury he sustained in Sunday's loss to Geelong examined yesterday and the club will learn in the next few days how serious the damage is and whether it will have an effect on how he starts next pre-season.

    ''It's one of those things that might have been a two-week injury or a six- to eight-week injury,'' football manager James Fantasia said.

    It's understood Giansiracusa had being weighing up his future at stages this year. But the club expects the 30-year-old to continue on into 2013, the final year of his contract.

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    It is news that will comfort former teammate Nathan Brown, who believes the Dogs need Giansiracusa and the rest of their core group of experienced players - such as captain Matthew Boyd, Brian Lake, Robert Murphy and others - to keep playing and help the team remain competitive while the club's younger players learn on the job.

    The Dogs have lost two veterans - Ryan Hargrave and Lindsay Gilbee - to retirements this year.

    ''They will need leadership out there through, what I think, is going to be another tough year again next year … and Gia offers that to all the young boys down there,'' said Brown, a former two-time leading goalkicker at the Dogs.

    ''You still need senior players to teach those kids through the rebuilding phase they are in.

    ''They are not necessarily going to play in the next premiership … but while they are young and are going to take a good beating, they will need those senior players around to help them through.''

    Of his 12 seasons, 2012 has been one of the more frustrating for Giansiracusa, who will finish up missing five games through injury, the most he has sat out since 2006.

    Yet he has still managed to deliver a solid contribution and is almost certain to claim the club's goalkicking award, even though he will miss Sunday's final-round match against the Brisbane Lions at the Gabba.

    The belief that the Dogs' top-end talent, such as Boyd (30), Murphy (30), Lake (30), Daniel Cross (29), Dale Morris (29) and Giansiracusa, need to play on next year links up with the recruiting direction the club will take during summer.

    Coach Brendan McCartney said yesterday the Dogs would not be an aggressive player in the trade period, an indication that the club is not trying to bring in recruits from outside to address the lack of players aged in their mid-20s on the list.

    Instead, the Dogs will go to the draft to add to its stockpile of emerging talent and, that being the case, having hardened veterans around next year will be crucial.

    ''Our No.1 philosophy is to train our own people up,'' McCartney said.

    ''We firmly believe that we have enough talent here and we have the right type of people in the young group that are learning a lot off our experienced players.

    ''It's highly likely we will continue to bring young people to this club and give them the best education we can.''

    The failure of the Dogs' young key forwards has been highlighted all season, but McCartney said that didn't necessarily mean the club would target more young forwards. ''We will just look for the best players we can get our hands on,'' he said.
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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 65611

    #2
    Re: Dogs back Giansiracusa

    Gia will continue his mentoring role and will not only help our young pups but will be good for his coaching career in the future.
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    • Missing-Dog
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 3102

      #3
      Re: Dogs back Giansiracusa

      Great news we really need the older guys to be there next year! We have some great young talent coming through although most are under teh 23 year old age bracket and therefore need senior players around..

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      • Mofra
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 14800

        #4
        Re: Dogs back Giansiracusa

        Seems a bit like the Mitch Hahn re-rookie: certainly there for his off-field stuff/leadership.
        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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        • The Underdog
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Aug 2007
          • 6745

          #5
          Re: Dogs back Giansiracusa

          As long as Nathan Brown approves, that's what really matters in all of this.
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          • Desipura
            WOOF Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 4344

            #6
            Re: Dogs back Giansiracusa

            Why the need to fill the list with Gia when his age and his body giving a sure sign it is failing him. It means we will lose a heap of senior players in the one year more likely than not.
            He should have been made a rookie like Hahn.

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            • The Bulldogs Bite
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 11048

              #7
              Re: Dogs back Giansiracusa

              Should have retired. He is physically finished; how much more evidence is needed? He can barely move.

              Why do we hold onto all our older players too long? What makes it worse is that we've had so many. We should have been trying to slowly filter them out, not have them all disappear at once -- which is what is likely to happen again at the end of next year (Gia, Cross? Murphy? Morris?)

              It's a frustrating topic for mine. Our list management is deplorable and even if it smacks us in the face, we still refuse to change our philosophy.
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              • Ozza
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Mar 2008
                • 6380

                #8
                Re: Dogs back Giansiracusa

                I don't think we lose out too much on Gia playing another year do we?

                He is reportedly going to be on a bargain basement wage, he will win our goal kicking this year, will present himself in great condition for pre-season as he always does and continue to be a good, professional influence on the younger players around him.

                Its hardly the bloody disaster that some are suggesting.

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                • Mofra
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 14800

                  #9
                  Re: Dogs back Giansiracusa

                  Originally posted by Ozza
                  I don't think we lose out too much on Gia playing another year do we?

                  He is reportedly going to be on a bargain basement wage, he will win our goal kicking this year, will present himself in great condition for pre-season as he always does and continue to be a good, professional influence on the younger players around him.

                  Its hardly the bloody disaster that some are suggesting.
                  Bingo - Melbourne are the team that seems to cut their senior players early, their rebuild isn't exactly a course of action we should plan to follow.
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                  • Maddog37
                    WOOF Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3132

                    #10
                    Re: Dogs back Giansiracusa

                    I think is physically stuffed but I admire his skill. If he is asked to play a lesser role then it could work well.

                    Hopefully others will step up and force him into a second stringer.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 65611

                      #11
                      Re: Dogs back Giansiracusa

                      Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                      Should have retired. He is physically finished; how much more evidence is needed? He can barely move.

                      Why do we hold onto all our older players too long? What makes it worse is that we've had so many. We should have been trying to slowly filter them out, not have them all disappear at once -- which is what is likely to happen again at the end of next year (Gia, Cross? Murphy? Morris?)

                      It's a frustrating topic for mine. Our list management is deplorable and even if it smacks us in the face, we still refuse to change our philosophy.
                      Five out of 45 is not much to hang on to. I can't see anything wrong with holding on to these guys just a little longer. If we had lots of good players between 100 to 150 games, then I would agree with you, but sadly we don't, so Macca has no options. Yes list management has been bad for the past 10 years or more, but hopefully this is all part of fixing it. The good thing is Macca will not trade for older players.

                      Reading the article, its not a certainty that Gia will play on. I guess he will wait to see how bad his knee is. If it means he has little pre-season then he may pull the pin himself.
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                      • Sedat
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 11050

                        #12
                        Re: Dogs back Giansiracusa

                        Dickson and Higgins have more than replaced Gia in the forward line, so if he does continue at the club next season I'd like to see him spend more game time in the midfield, and area he has been under-utilised in the past.
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                        • westdog54
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 6683

                          #13
                          Re: Dogs back Giansiracusa

                          Originally posted by Sedat
                          Dickson and Higgins have more than replaced Gia in the forward line, so if he does continue at the club next season I'd like to see him spend more game time in the midfield, and area he has been under-utilised in the past.
                          He has struggled to keep pace playing in the forward line, I don't think that putting him in the midfield will add any more to his value whatsoever.

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                          • Hotdog60
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 5775

                            #14
                            Re: Dogs back Giansiracusa

                            Originally posted by westdog54
                            He has struggled to keep pace playing in the forward line, I don't think that putting him in the midfield will add any more to his value whatsoever.
                            Pace may not be such an issue if the opposition don't sit on him, he will be the receiver and deliverer of the ball with hopefully good decisions.

                            Gia will just need to make some space with positioning smarts and them move it on by hand or foot quickly.

                            How long he'll be able to do that with someone putting the clamps on would be the question.

                            But I can't see him doing a Griff or Cooney out of the centre and we already have the in and unders.
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                            • Ghost Dog
                              WOOF Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 9404

                              #15
                              Re: Dogs back Giansiracusa

                              Drawing frees in the 50. Has a higher average than lots of other small forwards.
                              How much are we going to pay him in 2013? Basically, it comes down to that.
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