A season in stats

[jeemak]

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Good luck getting the club to show any bulldog spirit on this one.


Western Bulldogs football manager James Fantasia said Boyd was unlucky to miss the squad.

"We would have thought he would have been highly considered," Fantasia said.

"He has always put his best foot forward and he's certainly a high possession-getter, but that's the way it goes."

Would like to see here instead " We raised our eyebrows and can't see any reason why Matthew shoudn't be all Australian." Or something or other.

But then again, I just love belting Fantasia. Whack.

I think it's a given from his comments "We would have thought he would have been highly considered,".

Not sure if the language is plain enough for you, but it is for me. Being highly considered means he should have potentially made the team, let alone the 40.

[Remi Moses]

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I think it's important. We are disappearing more and more media wise.
Losing members hand over fist for a number of reasons and one being we have no visible 'stars'.
Selling our players to the public should be a priority.

Another example how Melbourne were screaming about Scully's worth well before the official signing. We didn't say boo about Ward and got less for a better player.

Not even mentioning the morale aspect mjp has.

Agree ( for a change) It burns me the whole Ward debacle!
Could you imagine how purple Eddie would go if that happened !
Boyd should have been at least in the 40 man squad!!
Read the best post on BF that a club should be supplemented for outstanding performance over a 2 to 3 year period . Subscribing to the AFL's slap shot template, take the 07 draft we would have got better picks for Grant than Hawthorn would get for Rioli or Dangerfield!

[Ghost Dog]

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I think it's a given from his comments "We would have thought he would have been highly considered,".

Not sure if the language is plain enough for you, but it is for me. Being highly considered means he should have potentially made the team, let alone the 40.

Matty needed someone to go into bat a little more strongly for him IMO. But that's my two cents. The panel considered him for sure. But really, his omission begs questions about the fairness of the process. The only reason he wasn't in was because of the poor performance of the team as a whole.

[The Pie Man]

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Of the midfielders picked, he (Boyd) maybe stiff to miss behing Reilly & Birchall, but arguments can be easily mounted the other way. They both had influential roles in top 4 teams - we had the season we had, losing games by the margins we did.

[LostDoggy]

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Of the midfielders picked, he (Boyd) maybe stiff to miss behing Reilly & Birchall, but arguments can be easily mounted the other way. They both had influential roles in top 4 teams - we had the season we had, losing games by the margins we did.

Neither Reilly or Birchall are midfielders, both backmen.

[The Pie Man]

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Neither Reilly or Birchall are midfielders, both backmen.

Who of the midfielders/on-ballers picked do you think Boyd should have been ahead of?

[Maddog37]

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Thriving on the contest and strong around stoppages, Boyd ranked fifth in the league for contested possessions and sixth for clearances, while the efficiency of his disposals was confirmed by ending the season fourth in the league for average effective disposals per game.

I thought Boydy improved in this area as the year went on.

[LostDoggy]

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Who of the midfielders/on-ballers picked do you think Boyd should have been ahead of?

I would have Boyd ahead of the following:

Hayes - Been pretty good in his year back from injury, but Boyd has been so much better.

Pendlebury - Was dominate until round 11ish when he got injured. Has been pretty average for his standards since returning, not saying Boyd is a better player than Pendles, but not sure if he deserves to be ahead of Boydy for playing a good half year.

Swallow - Toss of the coin this one, Swallows been consistently pretty good, same as Boyd. But for bias sakes i'll have Boyd ahead oh him just.

I also think Cotchins year has been extremely overrated. He has been really good this year and i would have him in the top 40 over Boyd just. However brownlow medal favourite? Pffft.

Cotchin will not finish in the top 5 comes Brownlow night.

I also think Boyd will poll more votes than him.

[MrMahatma]

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Thriving on the contest and strong around stoppages, Boyd ranked fifth in the league for contested possessions and sixth for clearances, while the efficiency of his disposals was confirmed by ending the season fourth in the league for average effective disposals per game.

I thought Boydy improved in this area as the year went on.

I'll raise my hand as someone not surprised he got a lot of the pill, but almost fell off my chair at the efficiency stat!

[jeemak]

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I'll raise my hand as someone not surprised he got a lot of the pill, but almost fell off my chair at the efficiency stat!

I wonder how the percentage of efficient disposals would look, rather than total number of efficienct disposals.

[Cyberdoggie]

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Perhaps focussing on team rather than individuals would be a good step forward for our club which has always idolized it's stars due to lack of success as a team.

If we are whinging that we don't have an all-australian then perhaps we should focus on being a better team on the field and maybe we'll see more in the future. The fact is that good sides usually get all the all australian honors, not sides that finish 4th bottom.

[Happy Days]

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Perhaps focussing on team rather than individuals would be a good step forward for our club which has always idolized it's stars due to lack of success as a team.

If we are whinging that we don't have an all-australian then perhaps we should focus on being a better team on the field and maybe we'll see more in the future. The fact is that good sides usually get all the all australian honors, not sides that finish 4th bottom.

This. I haven't seen the last half of the season so I can't really comment on whether or not Boyd deserved the nod, but loudly complaining about it achieves nothing and is a bad look for a club with an outward perception of trumpeting individual achievements over team success. I remember the reaction on this board to the complaints against Libba not getting a RS nomination, how is this any different?

[Sedat]

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If we are whinging that we don't have an all-australian then perhaps we should focus on being a better team on the field and maybe we'll see more in the future. The fact is that good sides usually get all the all australian honors, not sides that finish 4th bottom.

Well said. Give me Hawthorn's 1991 premiership team (that had no AA's in it) every day of the week. I personally don't think Boydy deserves to be in the team this year in any event.

[Ghost Dog]

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fair enough. But is it at all right that a bloke ( any ) can have a stellar year in a team down the cellar and not get selected?

[Bornadog]

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fair enough. But is it at all right that a bloke ( any ) can have a stellar year in a team down the cellar and not get selected?

Unfortunately the way voting goes in any of these that's what happens. Have a look at the Brownlow; when was the last time a player from a bottom team won it? Even when they give out the 3 votes, its usually to the player from the winning team its an absolute joke.