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  • Jeanette54
    Senior Player
    • Oct 2009
    • 1260

    #16
    Re: Our Brownlow Medalists

    Originally posted by Chops
    Where's Barry Round, Bernie Quinlan and Brian Wilson?
    And the ones robbed George Bisset and Chris Grant?
    You can also add Luke Darcy cos Shane Woewodin was a fraud.
    I was there the day "Wee Georgie" was reported for striking Carl Diterich; and there was no doubt he did it, and why. It was a square off for another Footscray player being felled by Carl, EJ if my memory is correct.

    Bearing in mind the relative size diference, they shouldn't have taken the Brownlow off George, but presented him with a VC as well.

    I agree that the report that robbed Chris of his brownlow was just rubbish.
    The truth will set you free,
    but first it will piss you off. ... Gloria Steinem.

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #17
      Re: Our Brownlow Medalists

      Originally posted by Jeanette54
      I was there the day "Wee Georgie" was reported for striking Carl Diterich; and there was no doubt he did it, and why. It was a square off for another Footscray player being felled by Carl, EJ if my memory is correct.

      Bearing in mind the relative size diference, they shouldn't have taken the Brownlow off George, but presented him with a VC as well.

      I agree that the report that robbed Chris of his brownlow was just rubbish.
      I thought Bisset was reported and let off at the tribunal. I also thought he kicked 5 as first rover that day and umps weren't allowed to vote for him at all in that match?

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #18
        Re: Our Brownlow Medalists

        Actually Wikipedia says it was vs Carlton he kicked 6 and had over 30 possessions. Didn't get a vote and lost the brownlow by 1 vote.
        Sounds like robbed to me.

        Also straight from the horses mouth when interviewed by TCD on this forum.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66476

          #19
          Re: Our Brownlow Medalists

          Originally posted by Chops
          Actually Wikipedia says it was vs Carlton he kicked 6 and had over 30 possessions. Didn't get a vote and lost the brownlow by 1 vote.
          Sounds like robbed to me.

          Also straight from the horses mouth when interviewed by TCD on this forum.
          Yept correct, was robbed because of the rules at the time, ie umpires put the votes in before the tribunal hearing.
          FFC: Established 1883

          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • westdog54
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jan 2007
            • 6686

            #20
            Re: Our Brownlow Medalists

            Originally posted by Chops
            Where's Barry Round, Bernie Quinlan and Brian Wilson?
            And the ones robbed George Bisset and Chris Grant?
            You can also add Luke Darcy cos Shane Woewodin was a fraud.
            Wasn't it Scott West that was robbed that year?

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            • Happy Days
              Hall of Fame
              • May 2008
              • 10129

              #21
              Re: Our Brownlow Medalists

              Originally posted by westdog54
              Wasn't it Scott West that was robbed that year?
              As much as West should have won the medal, it's an enormous oversight to say anyone but Kouta was the best player that year; no beef with West being "robbed"
              - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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              • KT31
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jul 2008
                • 5454

                #22
                Re: Our Brownlow Medalists

                Originally posted by Happy Days
                As much as West should have won the medal, it's an enormous oversight to say anyone but Kouta was the best player that year; no beef with West being "robbed"
                Kouta was a bit stiff with major awards in his career, IMO he deserved the Norm Smith instead of the Sentimental Favourite Williams, in the Carltons 95 flag.
                Although I may have been a bit biased as I had money on Kouta to win.
                It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #23
                  Re: Our Brownlow Medalists

                  Originally posted by Happy Days
                  As much as West should have won the medal, it's an enormous oversight to say anyone but Kouta was the best player that year; no beef with West being "robbed"
                  If he was beaten by Kouta fair enough but it was Woewodin.

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66476

                    #24
                    Re: Our Brownlow Medalists

                    Originally posted by Happy Days
                    As much as West should have won the medal, it's an enormous oversight to say anyone but Kouta was the best player that year; no beef with West being "robbed"
                    Didn't Kouta miss the last three games and was stuck on 19 votes, with the winner on, I think 22?
                    FFC: Established 1883

                    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                    • westdog54
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6686

                      #25
                      Re: Our Brownlow Medalists

                      Originally posted by Chops
                      If he was beaten by Kouta fair enough but it was Woewodin.
                      Its painful just thinking about it, isn't it?

                      You'd handle Kouta edging you out for a brownlow, not Woewoeful.

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                      • jeemak
                        Bulldog Legend
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 21741

                        #26
                        Re: Our Brownlow Medalists

                        Originally posted by Chops
                        If he was beaten by Kouta fair enough but it was Woewodin.
                        There's always a few players that can win it on merit adn Kouta certainly was one that I'd be happy with. Woewodin, all power to him, just wasn't there and it was a massive kick in the guts to see him take it out in front of West.
                        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                        • jeemak
                          Bulldog Legend
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 21741

                          #27
                          Re: Our Brownlow Medalists

                          Originally posted by Jeanette54
                          I was there the day "Wee Georgie" was reported for striking Carl Diterich; and there was no doubt he did it, and why. It was a square off for another Footscray player being felled by Carl, EJ if my memory is correct.

                          Bearing in mind the relative size diference, they shouldn't have taken the Brownlow off George, but presented him with a VC as well.

                          I agree that the report that robbed Chris of his brownlow was just rubbish.
                          It's funny as I'd look at the Grant incident nowadays and say he should at least be brought in front of the tribunal, and maybe cop a week. There really was no need for him to do what he did that day, though the penalty and the way it was handed down retrospectively from the administration after the umpires didn't lay a repot was disgraceful and completely out of line with how the game was played then.

                          What sickened me most about the whole thing was Lockett being scrutinised under similar circumstances in the following weeks, and the rat Collins stating he wasn't going to intervene as the Umpiring team had passed a recommendation not to, and that was enough for him to not intervene. While I was competely pissed at Collins for his initial intervention in the Grant case, his contradictory stand on Lockett (considering his poor record) was disgusting.
                          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66476

                            #28
                            Re: Our Brownlow Medalists

                            Originally posted by jeemak
                            It's funny as I'd look at the Grant incident nowadays and say he should at least be brought in front of the tribunal, and maybe cop a week. There really was no need for him to do what he did that day, though the penalty and the way it was handed down retrospectively from the administration after the umpires didn't lay a repot was disgraceful and completely out of line with how the game was played then.

                            What sickened me most about the whole thing was Lockett being scrutinised under similar circumstances in the following weeks, and the rat Collins stating he wasn't going to intervene as the Umpiring team had passed a recommendation not to, and that was enough for him to not intervene. While I was competely pissed at Collins for his initial intervention in the Grant case, his contradictory stand on Lockett (considering his poor record) was disgusting.
                            What I don't understand is why the club didn't challenge this and the rules at the time??
                            FFC: Established 1883

                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66476

                              #29
                              Re: Our Brownlow Medalists

                              Bump

                              Do any of our players have a chance to add to the list of 10 Brownlows at our club?
                              FFC: Established 1883

                              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #30
                                Re: Our Brownlow Medalists

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                Bump

                                Do any of our players have a chance to add to the list of 10 Brownlows at our club?
                                Every single one of them does.

                                Maybe not Picken. Can't see an umpire giving him 3 votes every week.

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