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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66189

    Western Bulldogs release members code of conduct



    The Western Bulldogs have today released a draft ‘Members Code of Conduct’ for the consideration of the Bulldog faithful.

    As a Club that prides itself on celebrating diversity and also promoting a positive experience for our Members and Fans and their families – the Bulldogs have developed the code to proactively highlight an area we think our supporters and stakeholders will embrace.

    On releasing the draft code on westernbulldogs.com today, President Peter Gordon told Bulldogs TV that after the reported racial incident during our clash against North Melbourne, he spent an anxious 24 hours waiting to find out whether Bulldog Members or fans were involved.

    “I felt awkward about that too, because in one sense, it doesn’t matter what colours were worn by the people may have been involved in this conduct. That fact that it happened at all demeans all of us and demeans our game. So we need to use this event as an opportunity to lift our standards,” Gordon told Bulldogs TV.

    “So, I’ll confess I was relieved to find out that the people alleged to have conducted themselves in this way were not bulldog members, but I’m not kidding myself that it could not have been Bulldog members or indeed that such an event might not involve Bulldogs Members sometime in the future.

    “Our fans, like every other clubs’ fans are a mix of people of different backgrounds, different beliefs and different cultures. We more than most celebrate our differences and our diversity reflective of our heartland – and we’re proud of it.

    “For this reason we think it’s time we made it expressly clear that being a part of our club, being a Bulldogs Member also has its obligations.”

    The Club today published a draft ‘Members Code of Conduct’ on westernbulldogs.com so Members could have the opportunity to have their say as to whether we should have one and what it should say.

    “We don’t want to discourage freedom of speech. We think in particular that the sort of funny, good natured larrikinism that’s been part of being in the outer of AFL and before that VFL games for decades is part of the really rich culture of Australian Football and we don’t want to discourage that,” Gordon said.

    “But there is a line that shouldn’t get crossed and we want, at this point, to make it clear that we expect our members not to cross that line.

    “We want to make it clear that we all expect members to know about that line and to keep it in mind that all of us, in this digital age of the 24 hour news cycle, represent the club in some way...and have an obligation not to let it down."

    Gordon encouraged members to have a look at the draft code and to provide feedback and thoughts.

    “The Board will take them into account when deciding whether to implement such a code on your behalf as members…”

    DRAFT WESTERN BULLDOGS MEMBERS CODE OF CONDUCT

    As Western Bulldogs Members we will abide by the values and the fundamental principles of our Club and specifically;

    1.) While at Western Bulldogs games and events, we will not engage in conduct that could bring the Club or Australian rules football into disrepute.

    2.) In any forum including in the media, where we are acting as a Western Bulldogs Member or identifiable as a Bulldogs Member, we will not engage in conduct that could bring the Club or Australian rules football into disrepute.


    3.) We will not engage in nor endorse any form of vilification on the basis of race, colour, gender, religion or sexuality.

    4.) We will conduct ourselves as Members in ways which contribute to Western Bulldogs events being family-friendly enjoyable experiences for all who attend - this means refraining from engaging in disruptive behaviour, including foul or abusive language or obscene gestures.

    5.) As a Club, we maintain the right of our members to hold and express robust views about our Club, our Board, Club Management and employee; and our players and team, but we will do our best to avoid behaviours and language which are abusive or malicious.
    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.
  • AndrewP6
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2009
    • 8142

    #2
    Re: Western Bulldogs release members code of conduct

    Sounds fine to me.
    [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66189

      #3
      Re: Western Bulldogs release members code of conduct

      Originally posted by AndrewP6
      Sounds fine to me.
      Great initiative by the club; we don't want dickheads giving our club a bad name.
      FFC: Established 1883

      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #4
        Re: Western Bulldogs release members code of conduct

        Happy with 3-5. Not interested in whether I bring AFL into disrepute if they ever come after this club again. Won't be signing anything that stops me wearing an up yours demetriou sticker if push ever came to shove...

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        • lemmon
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Nov 2008
          • 6506

          #5
          Re: Western Bulldogs release members code of conduct

          Originally posted by Superdog
          Happy with 3-5. Not interested in whether I bring AFL into disrepute if they ever come after this club again. Won't be signing anything that stops me wearing an up yours demetriou sticker if push ever came to shove...
          Strongly agree. We all know what's off limits, but what exactly could I do to bring the 'AFL into disrepute'? The degree of vagueness does concern me about what may one day be deemed outside the code

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66189

            #6
            Re: Western Bulldogs release members code of conduct

            Originally posted by Superdog
            Happy with 3-5. Not interested in whether I bring AFL into disrepute if they ever come after this club again. Won't be signing anything that stops me wearing an up yours demetriou sticker if push ever came to shove...
            If you are acting as a Western Bulldogs member, I would hope you don't bring the AFL into disrepute. I understand what you mean about coming after the club, but that isnot what the code talks about. It assumes we are in existence and by the way, there is nothing to suggest (outside of this code), otherwise.
            FFC: Established 1883

            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #7
              Re: Western Bulldogs release members code of conduct

              Originally posted by bornadog
              If you are acting as a Western Bulldogs member, I would hope you don't bring the AFL into disrepute. I understand what you mean about coming after the club, but that isnot what the code talks about. It assumes we are in existence and by the way, there is nothing to suggest (outside of this code), otherwise.
              Yeah but no. Yes I'm a member and no I'm not a nob wearing club colours. I'm also mindful of language for the kiddliwinks. I'm even prepared to accept point 5 gives me an out.

              I'm a bulldogs member not an afl member with bulldogs affiliation for one very good reason. I don't trust the afl and there are many good reasons beyond the merger they shoved at us that I feel that distrust is justified. I support a club, a democracy, called the FFC trading as Western Bulldogs. I reserve the right to hold that support over and above its affliation with the governing body. As such - I understand but reserve the right to refute points 1 & 2. I even reserve the right to vehement disagreement with our board if I so choose although I'm a strong advocate for the current one. If I wear a sticker saying "Up Yours Gordon" in the future can I be expelled if the board deems I'm bring it into disrepute? I don't know. But I dislike the possibility. So 1 - No. And 2 - No.

              Thats where I'm at unless I can get assurances and I can't because the wording is obtuse.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66189

                #8
                Re: Western Bulldogs release members code of conduct

                Originally posted by Superdog
                Yeah but no. Yes I'm a member and no I'm not a nob wearing club colours. I'm also mindful of language for the kiddliwinks. I'm even prepared to accept point 5 gives me an out.

                I'm a bulldogs member not an afl member with bulldogs affiliation for one very good reason. I don't trust the afl and there are many good reasons beyond the merger they shoved at us that I feel that distrust is justified. I support a club, a democracy, called the FFC trading as Western Bulldogs. I reserve the right to hold that support over and above its affliation with the governing body. As such - I understand but reserve the right to refute points 1 & 2. I even reserve the right to vehement disagreement with our board if I so choose although I'm a strong advocate for the current one. If I wear a sticker saying "Up Yours Gordon" in the future can I be expelled if the board deems I'm bring it into disrepute? I don't know. But I dislike the possibility. So 1 - No. And 2 - No.

                Thats where I'm at unless I can get assurances and I can't because the wording is obtuse.
                Hypothetically, you bring the AFL into disrepute, as long as you are not seen as a Bulldogs member, that is fine (not really but you know what I mean). eg the two nobs vilifying Daw. Their club affiliation was not mentioned but shows the AFL attracting morons like that.

                I guess what 1 & 2 covers is Bulldogs members seen to bring the AFL into disrepute. I agree with this and hope all members do.
                FFC: Established 1883

                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #9
                  Re: Western Bulldogs release members code of conduct

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  Hypothetically, you bring the AFL into disrepute, as long as you are not seen as a Bulldogs member, that is fine (not really but you know what I mean). eg the two nobs vilifying Daw. Their club affiliation was not mentioned but shows the AFL attracting morons like that.

                  I guess what 1 & 2 covers is Bulldogs members seen to bring the AFL into disrepute. I agree with this and hope all members do.
                  Think its the terminology where we differ. All good BAD - I just couldn't support it under its current wording. I can accept your position the priciple they are after is sound but from where I sit it reads like a monster waiting to pounce in ways never considered if circumstances change on the club and its members down the track. Points 1 and 2 are very open statements that I couldn't blindly agree too.
                  Last edited by LostDoggy; 17-05-2013, 06:16 PM. Reason: U

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                  • Dancin' Douggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 2877

                    #10
                    Re: Western Bulldogs release members code of conduct

                    Can you all please read the wording.

                    "we will not engage in conduct that could bring the Club or Australian rules football into disrepute"

                    The AFL is not Australian rules football.

                    The AFL is the organisation, Australian rules football is the code.

                    Bring on the 'up yours Demetriou' badges

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                    • Dry Rot
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6436

                      #11
                      Re: Western Bulldogs release members code of conduct

                      I agree with Guideline #3.

                      However, I suspect I regularly breach the other 4.
                      The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66189

                        #12
                        Re: Western Bulldogs release members code of conduct

                        Originally posted by Dancin' Douggy
                        Can you all please read the wording.

                        "we will not engage in conduct that could bring the Club or Australian rules football into disrepute"

                        The AFL is not Australian rules football.

                        The AFL is the organisation, Australian rules football is the code.

                        Bring on the 'up yours Demetriou' badges
                        yep you are correct
                        FFC: Established 1883

                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • mjp
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 7308

                          #13
                          Re: Western Bulldogs release members code of conduct

                          I like all of the stuff in the members code. What about the footy dept code:

                          'We will not play undersized defenders against key forwards in crucial finals'. (AKA the 'Robran Rule'.)
                          'We will lock up our key young players 12+ months BEFORE they come out of contract so they don't become free-agency targets'. (AKA the 'Ward Rule).

                          I can think of a few others.
                          What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                          • westdog54
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 6686

                            #14
                            Re: Western Bulldogs release members code of conduct

                            Originally posted by mjp
                            I like all of the stuff in the members code. What about the footy dept code:

                            'We will not play undersized defenders against key forwards in crucial finals'. (AKA the 'Robran Rule'.)
                            'We will lock up our key young players 12+ months BEFORE they come out of contract so they don't become free-agency targets'. (AKA the 'Ward Rule).

                            I can think of a few others.
                            Can I be pedantic and point out that Callan wasn't a free agent?

                            Happy with the code of conduct as it is and would have no issues staying inside it.

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                            • Remi Moses
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 14785

                              #15
                              Re: Western Bulldogs release members code of conduct

                              I break 4 constantly.
                              Gotta be honest the behaviour at the footy for mine is at its worst at night games.
                              If they're fair dinkum no grog at the footy.
                              Day games the behaviour is usually good

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