The Western Bulldogs have been dogged by some poor draft choices in the past few year

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  • Bulldog4life
    WOOF Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 9607

    The Western Bulldogs have been dogged by some poor draft choices in the past few year

    JARRAD Grant played in the VFL reserves on Sunday.


    Sadly the sight of the No.5 pick in the 2007 draft kicking dew at Williamstown sums up the state of affairs at the Western Bulldogs.

    It's a well-told story that recruiting manager at the time, Scott Clayton, said after the draft: "If Jarrad Grant's not the best player after them (No.1 Matthew Kreuzer and No.2 Trent Cotchin), then I'll swim to Williamstown from here."

    All recruiters have a couple of shockers; that's the nature of the business.

    The problem for the Dogs is some bad decisions at the draft table are coming home to roost big time.

    It must be noted before you read the following that recruiters like to mention at this point that they're not responsible for the development of players.

    In other words we can bring the talent in but it's not our fault if they don't prosper with the appropriate coaching.

    Who is to blame for the mess at the Whitten Oval can be debated long and hard, but the facts are disturbing for Dogs fans.

    1) OF the five selections at the 2006 national draft, none remains. The first pick was Andrejs Everitt at No.11. Players who were overlooked include James Frawley, Jack Riewoldt, Chris Dawes, Kurt Tippett, Robbie Gray and Justin Westhoff.

    2) IN 2007 when Grant went at No.5, the following were still available: Lachie Henderson, Ben McEvoy, Patrick Dangerfield, Cyril Rioli and Harry Taylor.

    3) THE 2009 draft, the first for recruiting manager Simon Dalrymple after Clayton went to Gold Coast, has been a bust.

    Christian Howard, first pick at No.15, has played one game this year. Jason Tutt (31) and Lukas Markovic (63) have struggled, while Shane Thorne (76) is no longer around.

    Those missed in favour of Howard include Daniel Menzel, Nathan Fyfe, Ryan Bastinac, Jake Carlisle, Mitch Duncan, Sam Reid, Allen Christensen and Nathan Vardy.

    4) IN 2010 the Dogs struck gold with two father-son selections in Mitch Wallis and Tom Liberatore. Eight other players were added to the list, including trades for Nathan Djerrkura and Justin Sherman. Only one remains and that's ex-Swan Patrick Veszpremi, who can't get a game in the current climate.

    5) THE most glaring hole is a lack of a key forward. Barry Hall filled the void for a few of years but the fact the Dogs have been unable to get any key-position talent is head-scratching. Liam Jones will be a good player, but he's not ready to be the main man. There was a play for Dawes in the trade period but he chose Melbourne, while out-of-favour Essendon big man Scott Gumbleton was considered but was not really courted. Given his form this year, that seems another bad decision.

  • G-Mo77
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Apr 2007
    • 9873

    #2
    Re: The Western Bulldogs have been dogged by some poor draft choices in the past few

    I know we've been drafting poorly but when it's laid out like that it hurts a little more.

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    • Maddog37
      WOOF Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 3132

      #3
      Re: The Western Bulldogs have been dogged by some poor draft choices in the past few

      Once again this could have been lifted straight from WOOF........

      Also this is cherry picking as with most clubs you could go back through their recruiting and name players taken after them that were proven better over time. We have stuffed things up but what does focussing on that aspect do to help our present sitiuation? It is already widely known amongst supporters.

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      • AndrewP6
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2009
        • 8142

        #4
        Re: The Western Bulldogs have been dogged by some poor draft choices in the past few

        It's not "news" as such, but depressing reading just the same.
        [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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        • Grantysghost
          Bouncing Strong
          • Apr 2010
          • 18909

          #5
          Re: The Western Bulldogs have been dogged by some poor draft choices in the past few

          Originally posted by Maddog37
          Once again this could have been lifted straight from WOOF........

          Also this is cherry picking as with most clubs you could go back through their recruiting and name players taken after them that were proven better over time. We have stuffed things up but what does focussing on that aspect do to help our present sitiuation? It is already widely known amongst supporters.
          Agree. By not mentioning all the other teams who didn't grab Dangerfield and Fyfe when they had the chance you really are only telling half the story to suit your purpose. We're the flavour of the week deservedly so; guess its expected.
          BT COME BACK!​

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          • wb_age

            #6
            Re: The Western Bulldogs have been dogged by some poor draft choices in the past few

            Can anybody here shed more light on Jarrod Grant? Last year he was in out of this side apparently while on a modified program to help him put on size.

            Now this year he has been in the reserves, now in the development team.

            This frustrates me, disregard the number 5 tag, the kid has skill and can kick goals. McCartney is supposed to be a great teacher/developer of kids, yet Grant has been left to wallow away in the reserves' reserves.

            Why has it all gone so wrong for Grant?

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66188

              #7
              Re: The Western Bulldogs have been dogged by some poor draft choices in the past few

              This article is written by some one reading WOOF.

              We can all bring up issues and problems but we want solutions. I say *!*!*!*! the past
              FFC: Established 1883

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              • SlimPickens
                Coaching Staff
                • Aug 2010
                • 2929

                #8
                Re: The Western Bulldogs have been dogged by some poor draft choices in the past few

                Originally posted by bornadog
                This article is written by some one reading WOOF.

                We can all bring up issues and problems but we want solutions. I say *!*!*!*! the past
                Hear, Hear BAD!!! Blame who you want, we're in this predicament and it ain't going to change anytime quick. It's what we do from this day forward, not what we did under previous adminstrators, coaches, recruiters etc.
                "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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                • Remi Moses
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 14785

                  #9
                  Re: The Western Bulldogs have been dogged by some poor draft choices in the past few

                  Yep, basically the caravan has moved to us .
                  I think we're all aware of past stuff ups.
                  Interestingly reading an 09 phantom draft it had Howard going in the 40's!
                  Richmond who have been laughed at for draft stuff ups have nailed their first rounders for a while now and are reaping the benefits

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                  • Remi Moses
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 14785

                    #10
                    Re: The Western Bulldogs have been dogged by some poor draft choices in the past few

                    Originally posted by wb_age
                    Can anybody here shed more light on Jarrod Grant? Last year he was in out of this side apparently while on a modified program to help him put on size.

                    Now this year he has been in the reserves, now in the development team.

                    This frustrates me, disregard the number 5 tag, the kid has skill and can kick goals. McCartney is supposed to be a great teacher/developer of kids, yet Grant has been left to wallow away in the reserves' reserves.

                    Why has it all gone so wrong for Grant?
                    Because he plays on his own terms. Occasionally doing the 1% ers but basically thinking his talent will get him through. In this era work ethic as a forward is just as vital as talent.

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                    • Topdog
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 7471

                      #11
                      Re: The Western Bulldogs have been dogged by some poor draft choices in the past few

                      Originally posted by Maddog37
                      Once again this could have been lifted straight from WOOF........

                      Also this is cherry picking as with most clubs you could go back through their recruiting and name players taken after them that were proven better over time. We have stuffed things up but what does focussing on that aspect do to help our present sitiuation? It is already widely known amongst supporters.
                      most clubs will have that. How many will have 0 players remaining from the 06 draft and no good players drafted from 09.

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                      • Maddog37
                        WOOF Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3132

                        #12
                        Re: The Western Bulldogs have been dogged by some poor draft choices in the past few

                        Check this link http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/t...awks?year=2006

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                        • Topdog
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 7471

                          #13
                          Re: The Western Bulldogs have been dogged by some poor draft choices in the past few

                          They still have a player from that draft.

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                          • Maddog37
                            WOOF Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3132

                            #14
                            Re: The Western Bulldogs have been dogged by some poor draft choices in the past few

                            They also had higher pics. I am just saying we are not alone in stuffing up drafts and that the wheel will turn.

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                            • Topdog
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 7471

                              #15
                              Re: The Western Bulldogs have been dogged by some poor draft choices in the past few

                              No one has ever suggested that we are alone. Ours is a combination of draft mistakes and losing Ward and Harbrow.

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