It's time the Bulldogs showed some bite by Brad Hardie

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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #16
    Re: It's time the Bulldogs showed some bite by Brad Hardie

    Originally posted by FrediKanoute
    I agree. Not convinced we should sack Macca, but something neeeds to b e looked at and addessed, One problem I have with the 5 year rebuild is that in any other sport the strategy would be laughed at.....stability is important, but building a solid team that is moving in the right direction is also important.

    We can't and shouldn't accept the status quo. There is no miracle cure I agree, but to blindly presume it will all be ok in 5 years is a massive leap of faith.....
    How would you achieve this if you were appointed senior coach tomorrow?

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    • Bulldog4life
      WOOF Member
      • Oct 2007
      • 9607

      #17
      Re: It's time the Bulldogs showed some bite by Brad Hardie

      Originally posted by FrediKanoute
      I agree. Not convinced we should sack Macca, but something neeeds to b e looked at and addessed, One problem I have with the 5 year rebuild is that in any other sport the strategy would be laughed at.....stability is important, but building a solid team that is moving in the right direction is also important.

      We can't and shouldn't accept the status quo. There is no miracle cure I agree, but to blindly presume it will all be ok in 5 years is a massive leap of faith.....
      I tend to agree. Melbourne did the 5 year rebuild with Ron Barassi.......enough said.

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      • Jeanette54
        Senior Player
        • Oct 2009
        • 1314

        #18
        Re: It's time the Bulldogs showed some bite by Brad Hardie

        Perhaps we could commission an independent audit by a suitably qualified, and respected group. This group could look at the entire operation of the club, and make recommendations as to improvements in procedures and methods.

        It would be one way to avoid the "group think" mentality which can pervade any organisation.
        The truth will set you free,
        but first it will piss you off. ... Gloria Steinem.

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        • Mantis
          Hall of Fame
          • Apr 2007
          • 15547

          #19
          Re: It's time the Bulldogs showed some bite by Brad Hardie

          Originally posted by Bulldog4life
          I tend to agree. Melbourne did the 5 year rebuild with Ron Barassi.......enough said.
          What about Terry's 5 year plan at 9thmond... That turned out well.

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          • Bulldog4life
            WOOF Member
            • Oct 2007
            • 9607

            #20
            Re: It's time the Bulldogs showed some bite by Brad Hardie

            Originally posted by Mantis
            What about Terry's 5 year plan at 9thmond... That turned out well.
            Forgot that one. 5 must be an unlucky number....or it gives the coach something to fall back on.

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            • Greystache
              WOOF Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 9775

              #21
              Re: It's time the Bulldogs showed some bite by Brad Hardie

              Originally posted by Mantis
              What about Terry's 5 year plan at 9thmond... That turned out well.
              3 letters; J-O-N!
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              • Maddog37
                WOOF Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 3132

                #22
                Re: It's time the Bulldogs showed some bite by Brad Hardie

                Maybe we should change ours to a 4 year plan!

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                • Mantis
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 15547

                  #23
                  Re: It's time the Bulldogs showed some bite by Brad Hardie

                  Originally posted by Maddog37
                  Maybe we should change ours to a 4 year plan!
                  It's atleast a 5 maybe even a 7yr plan according to Chris Grant.

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                  • Maddog37
                    WOOF Member
                    • Nov 2010
                    • 3132

                    #24
                    Re: It's time the Bulldogs showed some bite by Brad Hardie

                    AS long as it is anything but 5!!!

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 45505

                      #25
                      Re: It's time the Bulldogs showed some bite by Brad Hardie

                      He lost me completely and irretrievably when he mentioned Williams.
                      Our current performances are unacceptable, that is for sure. But a panicked slash and burn will only achieve one thing ...A lot of smoke, followed by nothing but ashes.

                      This whole [ or could that be ..hole] ill-considered panic has such echoes of the witch hunt many at Geelong were trying to stir up in the year or two immediately before their era of greatness took off, it could be the script of a really bad soap opera.

                      Yes we need to get both of our teams right [ on field and off field], but ripping the guts out of everything in panicked fright and unreasoning hysteria will take us in only one direction, and that sure as hell is not forward or upward.
                      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                      • Mofra
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 15112

                        #26
                        Re: It's time the Bulldogs showed some bite by Brad Hardie

                        Originally posted by Maddog37
                        Maybe we should change ours to a 4 year plan!
                        Hawks - second last in 2004, premiers in 2008.

                        I like the sound of a 4 year plan (although with GCS & GWS, situation is not normal).
                        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                        • FrediKanoute
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 3890

                          #27
                          Re: It's time the Bulldogs showed some bite by Brad Hardie

                          Originally posted by BornAScragger
                          How would you achieve this if you were appointed senior coach tomorrow?
                          I have stated elsewhere that I think the problem is in one of three areas:

                          1) the message Macca is giving is not effective in getting through;
                          2) the players are hearing the mesage, but are unable/don't want to put the mesage into action; or
                          3) the message is wrong and the game has passed the strategy by.

                          If appointed tomorrrow I would try to determine which of these it is. I suspect that it is a combination of all three, but that 2) is a big part of the problem. I think what is overlooked is that guys like Murphy, Gia, Boyd, Cross, Griffin, Cooney and Morris are looking at the strategy being put forth and whilst accepting it as necessary are losing motivation, because the strategy demands that they play out the remainder of their careers in a side that is not competitive. Worse though a side that is being asked to be non-competitive. My first action would be to change this.

                          Teams are made up of people committed to a common cause. For footballers, the common cause is winning a flag. For young guys at the start of their careers they have their whole career ahead of them, so the urgency is not ther, it is as Macca preaches all about building the skills and strength and endurance necessary to compete. For the older guys though, helping the young guys by putting aside their aspirations must be a bitter pill to swallow, especially for guys like Griffin and Cooney. My second action would be to give back to these guys a measure of respect by setting the side up in such a way as both develops the young guys, but makes the team competitive. Initially this would be setting the side up in a way and with instructions that gives the team a fighting chance, but then at seasons end actively seeking to recruit players who will accelerate the rebuild.

                          My one clear statement though would be that no rebuild is going to take 5 years.

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