Western Bulldogs president Peter Gordon calls for abolition of priority draft picks

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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44722

    #16
    Re: Western Bulldogs president Peter Gordon calls for abolition of priority draft pic

    Originally posted by Murphy'sLore
    Realistically, there was zero chance they would have given us a priority pick anyway.
    I genuinely disagree with that sentiment.
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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44722

      #17
      Re: Western Bulldogs president Peter Gordon calls for abolition of priority draft pic

      Originally posted by SlimPickens
      Wish he didn't comment on this. A PP would be a huge help to possibly further strengthening our list.
      Strengthening the list and selling the vision to the supporters. Look at the way the supporters have rallied behind Stringer, Macrae and Hrovat in particular. 3 more names (early picks) would have been a marketing coup.

      If the membership numbers dip again due to a poor finish with the balance of the season then we will be looking for every marketing opportunity to try and give the supporters something positive to focus on and a reason for signing up again.
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      • Go_Dogs
        Hall of Fame
        • Jan 2007
        • 10168

        #18
        Re: Western Bulldogs president Peter Gordon calls for abolition of priority draft pic

        Spot on GVGjr, the membership component to the push for a PP is a very strong one.

        If the AFL don't advocate the system is to be abolished I hope we do push hard. Perhaps our public stance has a bit to do with the equalisation debate and our hope to gain support from some of the key stakeholders (being the Pies, Hawks etc).
        Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #19
          Re: Western Bulldogs president Peter Gordon calls for abolition of priority draft pic

          Peter is right, and we should have expected his stance. A fair go is all we want, not a head start.

          Short term, it'll hurt us. Long term, we'll be far better off. It's time the AFL starts making changes with their eyes on the horizon rather than three feet in front of them.

          The Melbourne priority pick situation, both past and potential future, is totally farcical and a blight on the AFL.

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #20
            Re: Western Bulldogs president Peter Gordon calls for abolition of priority draft pic

            Originally posted by BornAScragger
            Peter is right, and we should have expected his stance. A fair go is all we want, not a head start.

            Short term, it'll hurt us. Long term, we'll be far better off. It's time the AFL starts making changes with their eyes on the horizon rather than three feet in front of them.

            The Melbourne priority pick situation, both past and potential future, is totally farcical and a blight on the AFL.
            So, what do you suggest as long term? ........ Because I feel 59 years is long term enough!

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #21
              Re: Western Bulldogs president Peter Gordon calls for abolition of priority draft pic

              Originally posted by Petergm
              So, what do you suggest as long term? ........ Because I feel 59 years is long term enough!
              Here here. Every rebuild is around 8-10 years from bottom to top. We should be grabbing every advantage the current rules afford us. Simply not in a position to be the voice of evening out right now. We need it all to counterbalance the enourmous benefits afforded the expansion clubs who we will run smack bang into when we reach finals again.

              We should never have been involved in advocating this. A mistake of EPIC proportion give where our club and list is at whether we believe it or not.

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              • The Bulldogs Bite
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 11271

                #22
                Re: Western Bulldogs president Peter Gordon calls for abolition of priority draft pic

                No need for him to comment on this, especially given our situation.
                W00F!

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                • The Underdog
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 6880

                  #23
                  Re: Western Bulldogs president Peter Gordon calls for abolition of priority draft pic

                  Originally posted by Superdog
                  Here here. Every rebuild is around 8-10 years from bottom to top. We should be grabbing every advantage the current rules afford us. Simply not in a position to be the voice of evening out right now. We need it all to counterbalance the enourmous benefits afforded the expansion clubs who we will run smack bang into when we reach finals again.

                  We should never have been involved in advocating this. A mistake of EPIC proportion give where our club and list is at whether we believe it or not.
                  You want some mistakes of EPIC proportion?
                  Jarrad Grant, Christian Howard, Andrejs Everitt. Not to mention that the 2 players we gained from priority picks were Farren Ray & Tom Williams, ok picks who haven't worked out great. If we hadn't of screwed up those first 3 so badly we'd be much farther down the road of evening out the competition ourselves.
                  Advocating for a level playing field going forward, over possible immediate self interest (which would at best be a pick around 19, where there are no guarantees) is not a mistake of EPIC proportion. I certainly wouldn't underestimate Peter and his motives for speaking up.
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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34289

                    #24
                    Re: Western Bulldogs president Peter Gordon calls for abolition of priority draft pic

                    Originally posted by The Underdog
                    You want some mistakes of EPIC proportion?
                    Jarrad Grant, Christian Howard, Andrejs Everitt. Not to mention that the 2 players we gained from priority picks were Farren Ray & Tom Williams, ok picks who haven't worked out great. If we hadn't of screwed up those first 3 so badly we'd be much farther down the road of evening out the competition ourselves.
                    Advocating for a level playing field going forward, over possible immediate self interest (which would at best be a pick around 19, where there are no guarantees) is not a mistake of EPIC proportion. I certainly wouldn't underestimate Peter and his motives for speaking up.
                    And Tim Walsh and Sam Power...

                    And we in our glass house are throwing stones at Melbournes record.
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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44722

                      #25
                      Re: Western Bulldogs president Peter Gordon calls for abolition of priority draft pic

                      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                      And Tim Walsh and Sam Power...

                      And we in our glass house are throwing stones at Melbournes record.
                      The facts are now though that young players have the best chance of success by coming to our club than ever before because there been a significant increase in the footy department coaching resources, we will have our own VFL side, a great training HQ and we have a list manager setting all our recruiting requirements.

                      I'm not knocking Melbourne but we are in a far stronger position. We haven't tanked games and we have a united football department. We are in the best position I can recall to bring younger players into the club and develop them into AFL footballers.
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                      • jeemak
                        Bulldog Legend
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 21844

                        #26
                        Re: Western Bulldogs president Peter Gordon calls for abolition of priority draft pic

                        Why are we assuming that we'll be better off with a priority pick rather than an equalised competition?

                        We can't expect it to run both ways. We all want an equal competition, and it's been shown to this point the priority pick system hasn't necessarily brought that.

                        Scrap the priority picks, scrap the third party deals, balance the draw (in fact, make it a draw rather than a fixture) and balance stadium revenues.

                        IMO he's on the right track.
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                        • Remi Moses
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 14785

                          #27
                          Re: Western Bulldogs president Peter Gordon calls for abolition of priority draft pic

                          To be brutally honest I reckon the Melb situation has showed it's imperative to coach and develop your draft picks. Have a look those players they've drafted were well touted and have entered a club rotten to the core.
                          On the flip side I think we're all annoyed and frustrated that we didn't gain the same compo Melb got for Scully. Peter Gordon's just emphasised the annoyance that everybody has with this so called even comp the salary cap supposedly delivers.

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                          • Topdog
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 7471

                            #28
                            Re: Western Bulldogs president Peter Gordon calls for abolition of priority draft pic

                            Once we beat the Saints and Port our PP chances went out the window. We'll end up with 5 or 6 wins this year. Never going to get a PP for that.

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                            • soupman
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 5114

                              #29
                              Re: Western Bulldogs president Peter Gordon calls for abolition of priority draft pic

                              Originally posted by Topdog
                              Once we beat the Saints and Port our PP chances went out the window. We'll end up with 5 or 6 wins this year. Never going to get a PP for that.
                              Thinking a bit longer term however what if the worst happens and we dont improve next year? What if the loss of Gia and Cross along with a quick decline from Murphy and Morris means we are the worst side next year and unable to beat an improved GWS and Gold Coast we scrap to two wins against Melbourne and Port Adelaide (who we only get to play once becaus the fixture dictates these as non-high drawing games) and snag a lucky victory against an average side missing its best players?

                              I am all for the sentiments of Gordons comments, and the intention, however, these comments should not be made until we are sure we are back in the mix for the 8 and not in the mix for bottom 3 in the current season or next.
                              I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                              • Maddog37
                                WOOF Member
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 3132

                                #30
                                Re: Western Bulldogs president Peter Gordon calls for abolition of priority draft pic

                                I think realistically we had no chance for a pp this year. I would still like the idea of a pp in the comp but not until after the first round.

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