2014 Fixture - Screwed again by AFL

[Remi Moses]

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Unfortunately true. With bigger supporter bases they just generate better ratings, which gets them better time slots, which gets them more supporters and better sponsorships, thereby preserving the better time slots.

Equalisation along the NFL model is looking more and more imperative.

Agree, the revenue has to be shared amongst the clubs. The draw once again dictates that this has to happen

[Remi Moses]

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I don't want to seem disagreeable, but we had 1,000 more members this year than 2009. Still sub 30,000 and just about the worst outside the expansion clubs.

At best the bandwagon effect is worth about 2,500 members based on 2010 figures. Bugger all in the scheme of things.

Have a look at the social club rush in 2010.
They had to cap it.

[bulldogtragic]

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Have a look at the social club rush in 2010.
They had to cap it.

True, but that was existing members upgrading.

It might be just me, but membership issues with out great club scare the crap out of me. During the time since the big tv deals and mass exposure. The big clubs have virtually doubled their membership and got huge sponsorship dollars off the back of it. We've gone at about 40%, which over time period and in comparison is exceptionally poor and have struggled for sponsors.

One could mount a case for Hawthorn style (after the failed merge) sign up or we die campaign. We are not viable at this level. Say what you will, at some point Foxtel and others will identify a territory it wants to exploit for money. When that happens, we don't want to be only sustained on cash handouts with less than 50% membership of the bigger clubs. As we are now. Take emotion out of it, we are in strife and the draw next year does us no favours.

[Remi Moses]

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Hawthorn are a prime example of members and fans who drop off after a few poor years.
The revenue sharing has to be applied , as the big clubs can't have their plum exposure and expect to give nothing back in return.
Overseas sports do not have contrived revenue raising fixtures and in fairness something has to give.

[bulldogtragic]

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Hawthorn are a prime example of members and fans who drop off after a few poor years.
The revenue sharing has to be applied , as the big clubs can't have their plum exposure and expect to give nothing back in return.
Overseas sports do not have contrived revenue raising fixtures and in fairness something has to give.

Maybe once upon a time, but they now have over 10,000 members in Tassie cashing their footy department up. Cash another club could take off them for their own footy department.

[LostDoggy]

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Today I found a hidden truffle in the turd sandwich. I genuinely think we are likely to play finals this year. And if we finish like we finished 2013; that could take us anywhere. I can find upto 14 very winnable games and whilst I accept GWS, GC and Melb will all be better next year as well I'm getting alot of confidence from the draw. Finals would see a commercial advantage for us and might build us a business case for the Good Friday game.

Or maybe its just I've taken a long weekend but I definitely feel abit better looking at that side of it!

[Flamethrower]

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Funny how things change...I used to hate twilight games as they didn't suit my life.

Now I love them....they fit in great with my work....do a Sunday shift at the hospital and get paid handsomely and head to Etihad to watch the boys crack in.

It doesn't help sell the club playing in the twilight zone on cable TV so often, but if we can use our favorable draw, "do a Port" and make a serious finals assault, that will get us noticed.

It is way better than the flogging or 2 on Friday night Footy the 26 time wooden spooners from Seaford will cop.

[ANN LEE]

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I think the worst twilight game is the one at Geelong Rd16. Melbourne teams should not have to play there. Geelong members fill nearly the whole stadium leaving very few seats for those of us brave enough to travel there in the middle of winter for a 4.40 game. As far as I am concerned the game may as well be on the other side of the country.

[jeemak]

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I think the worst twilight game is the one at Geelong Rd16. Melbourne teams should not have to play there. Geelong members fill nearly the whole stadium leaving very few seats for those of us brave enough to travel there in the middle of winter for a 4.40 game. As far as I am concerned the game may as well be on the other side of the country.

On another forum, many moons ago I had a disagreement about the attitude of the GFC towards away fans, and their poor access to Kardinia.

They basically couldn't have cared less then, and I'm sure they couldn't care less now.

It's a small town, Geelong. And the folk down their who support Geelong have very very small town attitudes when it comes to their team.

Unfortunately the AFL allows their club to treat all other clubs supporters poorly.

[Bornadog]

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On another forum, many moons ago I had a disagreement about the attitude of the GFC towards away fans, and their poor access to Kardinia.

They basically couldn't have cared less then, and I'm sure they couldn't care less now.

It's a small town, Geelong. And the folk down their who support Geelong have very very small town attitudes when it comes to their team.

Unfortunately the AFL allows their club to treat all other clubs supporters poorly.

Can't blame them, we would do the same given the opportunity.

[Bornadog]

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I think the worst twilight game is the one at Geelong Rd16. Melbourne teams should not have to play there. Geelong members fill nearly the whole stadium leaving very few seats for those of us brave enough to travel there in the middle of winter for a 4.40 game. As far as I am concerned the game may as well be on the other side of the country.

I certainly won't even bother trying to get a seat.

[jeemak]

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Can't blame them, we would do the same given the opportunity.

Yeah, probably right.

Unfortunately we'll never have the opportunity. The AFL should do something about it, but they won't.

[LostDoggy]

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They are not real members. A real member buys a membership to be part of the club, not just to get a discount to games.

Agreed. It's really about how you sell the fixture. Ok, so it's no good commercially. The club needs to stop moaning, sit down and work out how to spin it for the fans. Be proactive. Be bold and try something new. Embrace it. Work twilight games into the marketing as though we asked for them. Work out a deal with Metro trains for free tickets for members attending: Sunday tickets are the cheapest. Eagles do this at Subi. Get CREATIVE!

Unfortunately, we won't. We'll piss and moan. And that's why we're stragglers.

Maybe not 35,000, but trying to stop people giving up their membership because of stupid excuses may be a start.

Excuses is damn right. We could've been given 22 Friday nights at the G. They would've found another reason.

Unfortunately true. With bigger supporter bases they just generate better ratings, which gets them better time slots, which gets them more supporters and better sponsorships, thereby preserving the better time slots.

Equalisation along the NFL model is looking more and more imperative.

God I hope so. Not holding my breath though.

[MrMahatma]

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Maybe with the "softer" draw we can sneak into the 8, jag a final vs the pies at prime time, Jake Stringer bags 6 in a dominant display. Dogs jumpers and number 9 sell out immediate. A new hero is born and the youngsters flock to get on the band wagon.

[Eastdog]

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I think the worst twilight game is the one at Geelong Rd16. Melbourne teams should not have to play there. Geelong members fill nearly the whole stadium leaving very few seats for those of us brave enough to travel there in the middle of winter for a 4.40 game. As far as I am concerned the game may as well be on the other side of the country.

Ill be watching that one on TV plus my membership is just for access to home games.