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  • Axe Man
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2008
    • 11486

    #1

    Dogs keeping a keen eye on young pups

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    Can someone tell Turner to shut the hell up? We don't want to have to use another first round pick on a Cordy!

    GEELONG Falcons talent manager Michael Turner has declared Western Bulldogs father-son prospect Zaine Cordy as one of the best defenders he's seen at the club.

    Cordy, the brother of Bulldogs forward Ayce and the son of Brian, is a versatile and athletic key defender, and will likely be the Bulldogs' top pick of the four father-son prospects eligible for this year's draft.

    This is Turner's 20th year at the Falcons, which has been a fertile breeding ground for AFL clubs.

    Falcons' alumni include the likes of Geelong premiership full-back Matthew Scarlett, Hawthorn skipper Luke Hodge, West Coast defender Will Schofield, and Brisbane Lions defenders Matt Maguire and Darcy Gardiner, the latter taken at pick 22 in last year's draft.

    Turner told AFL.com.au Cordy ranks up there with some of the most talented defenders recruited from the Falcons.

    "I would say the Western Bulldogs would have to give up a fairly early pick to grab him under father-son," Turner said.

    "I rate him really highly. I've been doing this job for a really long time, and he is one of the best defenders I've had.

    "He has all the attributes to play AFL footy, there's no doubt about that."

    Last Friday night, Cordy was handed the challenge of playing on potential number one draft pick, Peter Wright.

    The Calder Cannons forward kicked six goals against Cordy, but Turner said he was impressed with the young defender's overall effort.

    "Wright kicked a couple of goals at the end that were little dribblers and not really Zaine's fault, but I watched his efforts on the computer and he was absolutely outstanding," Turner said.

    "He fought fantastically against Peter Wright. Every contest I watched, he never lost in a one-on-one contest, he punched the ball away and did a lot of good blocking."

    Playing alongside Wright at the Calder Cannons is Josh Wallis, son of former Bulldogs' captain Stephen, and brother of Mitch.

    Cannons talent manager Ian Kyte told AFL.com.au the 17-year-old midfielder was hampered by a quad injury in the pre-season, and will need to improve his aerobic endurance to compete at the level required for TAC Cup.

    "He's very strong-bodied and has a really good understanding of the game," Kyte said.

    "He doesn't have the same natural ability as Mitch and he's probably going to have to work a lot harder.

    "But with hard work, the possibilities could be endless if he tried to have a real go, which he seems to be doing this year."

    Luke Kennedy, son of Rick, and Jayden Foster, son of Peter, are also at the Calder Cannons as top-age players.

    Foster, who will turn 19 this year, was overlooked in the 2013 draft after a horror run of injuries, but the late bloomer has impressed Kyte this season.

    Foster will be given an opportunity to show his wares as a key forward in the VFL for Coburg in the coming weeks.

    "He showed us over the last couple of weeks that he's got the capabilities to go on and play at a higher level," Kyte said.

    "I think he's going to be a top prospect by the end of the year for the Bulldogs or for any other club that might be interested."

    Western Bulldogs recruiting manager Simon Dalrymple confirmed the Bulldogs are keeping a close watch on all four players, with each of them spending time at the club's father-son academy.
  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #2
    Re: Dogs keeping a keen eye on young pups

    Zaine is pretty exciting, but at the next level I don't see him anything like a KPP. From what I saw last week he can play on perhaps a third tall, go third up and create in an attacking role.

    But all said, Turner and Co need to say these things , but unless things change, he is unlikely to go top 5. But a Brisbane or Sajnts might want him second round. All depends what happens with our season and the boys seasons.
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    • azabob
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2008
      • 15479

      #3
      Re: Dogs keeping a keen eye on young pups

      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
      Zaine is pretty exciting, but at the next level I don't see him anything like a KPP. From what I saw last week he can play on perhaps a third tall, go third up and create in an attacking role.

      But all said, Turner and Co need to say these things , but unless things change, he is unlikely to go top 5. But a Brisbane or Sajnts might want him second round. All depends what happens with our season and the boys seasons.
      I thought for a moment you and Zaine where one in the same when I saw the picture in the article!


      Now that would be In-Zaine in the Brian
      More of an In Bruges guy?

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      • anfo27
        WOOF Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 2003

        #4
        Re: Dogs keeping a keen eye on young pups

        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
        Zaine is pretty exciting, but at the next level I don't see him anything like a KPP. From what I saw last week he can play on perhaps a third tall, go third up and create in an attacking role.

        But all said, Turner and Co need to say these things , but unless things change, he is unlikely to go top 5. But a Brisbane or Sajnts might want him second round. All depends what happens with our season and the boys seasons.
        How tall is Zaine BT?

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        • The Underdog
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Aug 2007
          • 6986

          #5
          Re: Dogs keeping a keen eye on young pups

          Turner has never had a player who wasn't a potential Brownlow winner. Take it with a grain of salt.
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          Drop that phone
          Sleep on the floor
          Dream about me

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          • soupman
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Nov 2007
            • 5158

            #6
            Re: Dogs keeping a keen eye on young pups

            Lets not get too excited. This has happened before:

            "From what I've seen of Ayce, if he's not a top-five draft pick, I'm a bad judge." - Michael Turner
            Here's the full very optimistic article. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/af...-1111115938641
            I should leave it alone but you're not right

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            • 1eyedog
              Hall of Fame
              • Mar 2008
              • 13387

              #7
              Re: Dogs keeping a keen eye on young pups

              Originally posted by anfo27
              How tall is Zaine BT?
              From memory about 189 cm which I think was what his Dad came in at. but I may be off thd mark there. Certainly much shorter than Ayce.
              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 67678

                #8
                Re: Dogs keeping a keen eye on young pups

                Originally posted by 1eyedog
                From memory about 189 cm so he's got a couple of inches on his old man, but I may be off the mark there. Certainly much shorter than Ayce.
                Brian was 183
                Last edited by Bornadog; 15-05-2014, 09:58 PM. Reason: correction
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                • azabob
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 15479

                  #9
                  Re: Dogs keeping a keen eye on young pups

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  Steve was 180
                  I think they are talking about the Cordy's not the Wallis's
                  More of an In Bruges guy?

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                  • 1eyedog
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 13387

                    #10
                    Re: Dogs keeping a keen eye on young pups

                    Originally posted by azabob
                    I think they are talking about the Cordy's not the Wallis's
                    Yeah Brian and Zaine as per posts above.
                    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                    • Webby
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 1880

                      #11
                      Re: Dogs keeping a keen eye on young pups

                      Yeah, Brian was about 6 foot 1inch or 6ft 2in. A classic 3rd defender, so maybe Zaine's a smidge bigger.

                      Turner is optimistic in thinking 189cm defenders are top 5 pick candidates. I absolutely despise Sht Kilda for forcing us to use our top pick on Ayce. In my mind they did that simply to fk us around. It was sooo galling that we had pick 14 and every club with the first dozen picks in the '08 draft passed on him. We only needed The 'Aints to pass with pick 13 and that'd have meant we could've used 14 on a Schoenmakers or a Beames or whoever and nabbed Ayce with our second round pick...

                      Instead, we got no Father-Son advantage due to those useless pr1cks from Moorabbin.

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34289

                        #12
                        Re: Dogs keeping a keen eye on young pups

                        Nah, Zaine is about 193cm gents, from memory the record had him down as 191cm last year (but lets not go on what says how tall players are actually! ). He's a tall kid, the tallest defender last week, but nothing like Ayce. Against Wright last week he looked tiny but he's tall enough at TAC Cup level to cover a KPP post, but unless he gets a growth spurt I think he's a good 3rd tall defender at AFL level but his attacking side is very good too. One thing that I notice is that his arms seems too long for his torso to my eyes, which is maybe why he's such a good spoiler. But it could be just me that sees that.

                        No point putting too much hype on him prior to champs, but I've been a fan for a while.
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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 67678

                          #13
                          Re: Dogs keeping a keen eye on young pups

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          Brian was 183
                          Originally posted by azabob
                          I think they are talking about the Cordy's not the Wallis's
                          cheers
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                          • Remi Moses
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 14785

                            #14
                            Re: Dogs keeping a keen eye on young pups

                            Hopefully he wins a few brownlows, and Mick Turner is looking like a bad judge in regards to Ayce.

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                            • Scorlibo
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 3097

                              #15
                              Re: Dogs keeping a keen eye on young pups

                              Originally posted by Webby
                              Yeah, Brian was about 6 foot 1inch or 6ft 2in. A classic 3rd defender, so maybe Zaine's a smidge bigger.

                              Turner is optimistic in thinking 189cm defenders are top 5 pick candidates. I absolutely despise Sht Kilda for forcing us to use our top pick on Ayce. In my mind they did that simply to fk us around. It was sooo galling that we had pick 14 and every club with the first dozen picks in the '08 draft passed on him. We only needed The 'Aints to pass with pick 13 and that'd have meant we could've used 14 on a Schoenmakers or a Beames or whoever and nabbed Ayce with our second round pick...

                              Instead, we got no Father-Son advantage due to those useless pr1cks from Moorabbin.
                              I think it's just how it works that the team with the pick immediately before the to-be father-son pick makes a bid. It's not necessarily an indication of where he would have gone. If I recall, he was talked up as a top-5 pick.

                              To reinforce the point, Sydney bid for Libber with the pick immediately before our second rounder. That doesn't mean Libber wouldn't have definitely been a first rounder, they and every other club just knew that we'd be taking him no matter what.
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