Round 1 2017, Footscray Bulldogs v Box Hill Hawks.

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  • kruder
    Coaching Staff
    • May 2011
    • 3867

    #61
    Re: Round 1 2017, Footscray Bulldogs v Box Hill Hawks.

    Originally posted by ledge
    Tim English is going to be an absolute star over 200 cm but moves like bontempelli , his ball handling is unbelievable in close his evasive ball getting skills , balking and nous just took my breath away .
    His downside at the moment is his build, he will get knocked over in AFL against big body ruckman.
    I think he will play this year but be a Little patient with his ruck work just to slight.
    As they say lock it in the kid is going to be a gun.
    Would he be the first player at 18 to never play a game in anger and get a two year extension ? Theirs a reason for that.
    The question is though is he a midfielder or ruckman at this stage? Can you be a ruckman if you cant win a tap?

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    • comrade
      Hall of Fame
      • Jun 2008
      • 18045

      #62
      Re: Round 1 2017, Footscray Bulldogs v Box Hill Hawks.

      Originally posted by kruder
      The question is though is he a midfielder or ruckman at this stage? Can you be a ruckman if you cant win a tap?
      You can in Bevo's world. Nullifying the opposition's ruck advantage, providing a marking target around the ground and being useful in a zone/chain of possession is much more important that dominating tap after tap.
      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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      • Twodogs
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 27656

        #63
        Re: Round 1 2017, Footscray Bulldogs v Box Hill Hawks.

        Originally posted by kruder
        The question is though is he a midfielder or ruckman at this stage? Can you be a ruckman if you cant win a tap?

        Lots of ruckman have no intention of winning the tap. They are happy to just halve the ruck contest and still be in a position to try and get the ball when it hits the ground.
        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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        • comrade
          Hall of Fame
          • Jun 2008
          • 18045

          #64
          Re: Round 1 2017, Footscray Bulldogs v Box Hill Hawks.

          Some stats from yesterday:
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          Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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          • G-Mo77
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Apr 2007
            • 9877

            #65
            Re: Round 1 2017, Footscray Bulldogs v Box Hill Hawks.

            Originally posted by comrade
            Some stats from yesterday:
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            I'm starting to think I've mistook Williams for someone else. That's a darn good statistical line.

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            • comrade
              Hall of Fame
              • Jun 2008
              • 18045

              #66
              Re: Round 1 2017, Footscray Bulldogs v Box Hill Hawks.

              So bullish about English. 16 touches, 6 marks, 15 HOs and 93 ranking points in his first competitive game against a much more mature ruck in Fitzpatrick.
              Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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              • G-Mo77
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Apr 2007
                • 9877

                #67
                Re: Round 1 2017, Footscray Bulldogs v Box Hill Hawks.

                Originally posted by comrade
                So bullish about English. 16 touches, 6 marks, 15 HOs and 93 ranking points in his first competitive game against a much more mature ruck in Fitzpatrick.
                There was another big guy there, possibly a 3rd. Don't know their team but they had some big lads out there yesterday.

                Don't rate Fitzpatrick, English seemed to play better when that clown was rucked.

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                • Sedat
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 11272

                  #68
                  Re: Round 1 2017, Footscray Bulldogs v Box Hill Hawks.

                  Duplicate post
                  Last edited by Sedat; 15-04-2017, 02:21 PM. Reason: Duplicate
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                  • Sedat
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 11272

                    #69
                    Re: Round 1 2017, Footscray Bulldogs v Box Hill Hawks.

                    Dale is a watch for mine - 11 touches at this level is an indictment on his ability to get involved. Disappointing as he has some great tools that could really benefit the senior team.
                    "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                    • G-Mo77
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9877

                      #70
                      Re: Round 1 2017, Footscray Bulldogs v Box Hill Hawks.

                      Originally posted by Sedat
                      Dale is a watch for mine - 11 touches at this level is an indictment on his ability to get involved. Disappointing as he has some great tools that could really benefit the senior team.
                      Yeah I was really disappointed in his game. Got into the game a bit more late but overall not up to standard. I'm a big fan, hope he puts it together.

                      McCugh musn't of touched the ball in the 2nd half. I reckon he would have had close to that at half time. It was a really impressive first half from the kid but not seen much after that.

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                      • comrade
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 18045

                        #71
                        Re: Round 1 2017, Footscray Bulldogs v Box Hill Hawks.

                        Originally posted by G-Mo77
                        There was another big guy there, possibly a 3rd. Don't know their team but they had some big lads out there yesterday.

                        Don't rate Fitzpatrick, English seemed to play better when that clown was rucked.
                        Hawks also had Pittonet out there who's seen AFL action before. Good job by Timmy.
                        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44696

                          #72
                          Re: Round 1 2017, Footscray Bulldogs v Box Hill Hawks.

                          Originally posted by comrade
                          You can in Bevo's world. Nullifying the opposition's ruck advantage, providing a marking target around the ground and being useful in a zone/chain of possession is much more important that dominating tap after tap.
                          So why have we chased so many tap ruckman since Bevo arrived?
                          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                          • comrade
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 18045

                            #73
                            Re: Round 1 2017, Footscray Bulldogs v Box Hill Hawks.

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            So why have we chased so many tap ruckman since Bevo arrived?
                            Who have we seriously chased?
                            Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44696

                              #74
                              Re: Round 1 2017, Footscray Bulldogs v Box Hill Hawks.

                              Originally posted by G-Mo77
                              There was another big guy there, possibly a 3rd. Don't know their team but they had some big lads out there yesterday.

                              Don't rate Fitzpatrick, English seemed to play better when that clown was rucked.
                              I'm trying to remember when was the last time we drafted a project player and there were such high expectations on him so early in his career?

                              English performed OK against Fitzpatrick but clearly struggled against Pitonnet who is a year older and 15kg heavier and has played just 3 senior games for the Hawks.
                              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 44696

                                #75
                                Re: Round 1 2017, Footscray Bulldogs v Box Hill Hawks.

                                Originally posted by comrade
                                Who have we seriously chased?
                                Martin, Lobbe and had a decent interest in Kruezer

                                The point being everyone says Bevo has this magical potion for the ruck and yet he hasn't really reinvented the position......yet and had we landed Lobbe or Martin I dare say we would think Bevo had a more traditional stance on the position.
                                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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