Round 2 - 2017, Footscray Bulldogs v Werribee

[Topdog]

Re: Round 2 - 2017, Footscray Bulldogs v Werribee

I wonder if recruiting managers have a life span. They're only human so they have their own biases, and because the game moves so quickly, the types they're naturally drawn too may eventually not suit the most effective current style. This is amplified by the t am having continued success, meaning less access to the top flight talent.

I think you can minimise it by having younger, more data driven analysts in the recruiting team that look for inefficiencies in the player market, and draw the recruiting managers attention to it.

But after Bevo, Dalrymple is easily our most important off field asset.

Darl changed his apparent type quite dramatically for this draft and it already seems to be a success bound to happen.

[Bulldog4life]

Re: Round 2 - 2017, Footscray Bulldogs v Werribee

Darl changed his apparent type quite dramatically for this draft and it already seems to be a success bound to happen.

You must know him very well Td to call him darl.

[ledge]

Re: Round 2 - 2017, Footscray Bulldogs v Werribee

I think it comes down to the coach and "Darls" understudies being instructed on what player is needed each year, and looking closely at the retirements etc that will happen in the future. Not sure he has to change his ways as to what direction the coach and others direct him.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Round 2 - 2017, Footscray Bulldogs v Werribee

I wonder if recruiting managers have a life span. They're only human so they have their own biases, and because the game moves so quickly, the types they're naturally drawn to may eventually not suit the most effective current style. This is amplified by the team having continued success, meaning less access to the top flight talent.

I think you can minimise it by having younger, more data driven analysts in the recruiting team that look for inefficiencies in the player market, and draw the recruiting managers attention to it.

But after Bevo, Dalrymple is easily our most important off field asset.

I tend to think he's shown himself to be effective for whatever environment the club has been in. Under BMac there was a very clear gameplan and player type needed, and I think Dal nailed these picks. Then there was a shift with Bevo and list profile shift, and he's nailed these picks. Last year he changed gears again, and he'd be pretty happy about how he's selected. He's also shown strong backbone with our father/sons options, as I've got no doubt the fathers and sons of J. Wallis/McPherson/Foster/Romero would have created some overt or covert pressure on a recruiter, especially when Liberatore/M. Wallis/Hunter/Z. Cordy have been astute selections, and at a great cost.

I think the question of shelf life is a valid question, mainly for a myopic recruiter like say a certain GCS recruiter who has almost a fanatical approach to prioritising skinny athletes with very limited success. That recruiter has a shelf life, arguably which went bad a while ago. Dal on the other hand, so far seems to be able to identify talent (from all areas) and then work that in with what the list manager says he needs and what the coach says he needs.

You make a fair point in the data type analysts, but also improving on our interstate scouts. I mean, FFS, Howard as a first, Tutt with a second, Fuller, Skinner, Thorne and so on. I'm not sure if we've completely changed our interstate scouts, or changed the way in which we synthesise their reports, but recently we've pulled out Adams (2nd), Daniel (3rd), Williams (3rd) and English (pick 18) (and Young (3rd)). That seems to be a 180 turnaround. So if we can continue to make sure our interstate selections and regional scouts (Fergus Greene from schoolboy footy at Bendigo) are providing the right info and the system that evaluates it for/with Dal than things will stay good and questions of shelf life not too important. Add in our Next Geberation Academy, intensive father/son program and the addition of our Academy Manager with great local WRFL credentials, and it's about making sure the team is working and evolving, and it seems to be. So again, give Dal that Buddy Franklin deal and a bronze statue at WO, or so I say.

[Sedat]

Re: Round 2 - 2017, Footscray Bulldogs v Werribee

Dalrymple doesn't really have a type, but he certainly places great stock in rapid improvement in the final year of U18 - he backs the 17/18yo to continue that rate of improvement after they enter the AFL system. Macrae, Bont, McLean, Greene, Lipinski are all good examples of this. He also backs in his talent identification of long-term injured players and is happy to pull the trigger in draft day - Stringer and Dunkley were both reach selections that have proven inspired.

[boydogs]

Re: Round 2 - 2017, Footscray Bulldogs v Werribee

Dalrymple doesn't really have a type, but he certainly places great stock in rapid improvement in the final year of U18 - he backs the 17/18yo to continue that rate of improvement after they enter the AFL system. Macrae, Bont, McLean, Greene, Lipinski are all good examples of this. He also backs in his talent identification of long-term injured players and is happy to pull the trigger in draft day - Stringer and Dunkley were both reach selections that have proven inspired.

There have been patterns at different stages that have suggested a preference or a weakness, but over time these appear to have been list needs or coach wishes. All you could really say now is he likes later developers, and maybe good beep tests