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[Twodogs]

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Georgiades is very much that 3rd tall option which would be a good balance in time for our 3 genuine talls in Naughton, Schache and Bruce
He might also potentially allow for Naughton to return to the back line

I don't know if there is any truth to the rumor but I find it an interesting option. If he was to score an invite to the draft it would kick start some speculation

I thought there was a bit of Stevie J about him. Not as spectacular maybe but strong overhead and covers a bit of ground

[Twodogs]

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Debut him in a final, take his 8 goals and move on.

I wonder if we're loading up a little too much on marking talls?

Naughton, Brucer, Schache and JUH from 2020 (I assume we can only play 2-3) with a mid sizer or two (Dale/Green/Gowers). I guess if someone is 188-192cm and mobile they could fit into the system.

Heh! Imagine the uproar if we debuted him in a GF, he kicks 8 and wins the Norm Smith and we promptly trade him out!


Mitch Georgiades? Yeah/nah. we think that his best footy is behind him so we'd jst like to wish Mitch all the best for the future and we will do everything we can to get him to the club of his choice.

[GVGjr]

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There is nothing stopping us trading 13 and 53 for two picks.

Something like 13 and 53 for Geelong's 17 and 36. Could also add our 89 for their 93. There is a point differential of 92, but you could argue that is the price Geelong should be willing to pay to creep up the order.

We could also exploit Port (who will be sweating that Mead doesn't get bid on before 18) and offer 13 and 53 for 18 and 29. They lose out a bit, but it would be better than burning 18 on Mead and it could mean that they potentially come out with an extra first rounder.

Far less lucrative would be 13 and 53 for Richmond's 19 and 38. On points it is a fairly even trade though (1445 points for 1413). But would 19 and 38 be about right to snare Pickett (or whoever our first target is) and Georgiades?

Article on the HUN explores this

Geelong is exploring ways to jump into the top 10 at next week’s national draft.

The Cats, who have picks 14, 17, 24 and 36, have held preliminary talks with several clubs about bundling up multiple picks in exchange for a single-figure selection.

Clubs can continue to trade draft picks until the November 27-28 event and can cut deals on the night.

Moving into the top 10 would put Geelong in the frame to secure one of the two most highly rated talls in Luke Jackson and Fischer McAsey.

Melbourne (pick 8), Carlton (9) and Fremantle (10) are all in the Cats’ sights, while Fremantle desperately hopes a rival club does not bid on academy prospect Liam Henry before pick 10.

The Dockers controversially knocked back a deal involving pick 6 from St Kilda for Brad Hill, leaving them at risk of having to use pick 10 on small forward Henry.

The Cats will try to use their strongest draft hand in almost two decades to plan for life after key-position stars Tom Hawkins and Harry Taylor.

Gold Coast could also pair picks 15 and 20 for a late top-10 choice in a bid to land Western Australian captain Deven Robertson.

[The Adelaide Connection]

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Article on the HUN explores this

Geelong is exploring ways to jump into the top 10 at next week’s national draft.

The Cats, who have picks 14, 17, 24 and 36, have held preliminary talks with several clubs about bundling up multiple picks in exchange for a single-figure selection.

Clubs can continue to trade draft picks until the November 27-28 event and can cut deals on the night.

Moving into the top 10 would put Geelong in the frame to secure one of the two most highly rated talls in Luke Jackson and Fischer McAsey.

Melbourne (pick 8), Carlton (9) and Fremantle (10) are all in the Cats’ sights, while Fremantle desperately hopes a rival club does not bid on academy prospect Liam Henry before pick 10.

The Dockers controversially knocked back a deal involving pick 6 from St Kilda for Brad Hill, leaving them at risk of having to use pick 10 on small forward Henry.

The Cats will try to use their strongest draft hand in almost two decades to plan for life after key-position stars Tom Hawkins and Harry Taylor.

Gold Coast could also pair picks 15 and 20 for a late top-10 choice in a bid to land Western Australian captain Deven Robertson.

If we want McAsey, we really don't want Geelong to jump ahead in the queue. There is a glimmer of hope that he gets to 13, but that will probably be dashed if Geelong manage to get one of those picks.

Also, wouldn't it be amazing to call out McAsey's name one pick ahead of Geelong (who likely want him)?

[GVGjr]

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This about the Dogs from the Age

WESTERN BULLDOGS

PICKS: 13, 53, 89

KEY DEFENDERS: Alex Keath, Zaine Cordy, Jackson Trengove, Lewis Young, Ryan Gardner

SMALL/MEDIUM DEFENDERS: Jason Johannisen, Hayden Crozier, Caleb Daniel, Taylor Duryea, Easton Wood, Matthew Suckling, Ed Richards, Bailey Williams, Lachie Young, Roarke Smith, Brad Lynch, Buku Khamis

MIDFIELDERS: Marcus Bontempelli, Josh Dunkley, Lachie Hunter, Patrick Lipinski, Mitch Wallis, Toby McLean, Tom Liberatore, Bailey Smith, Rhylee West, Will Hayes, Callum Porter, Lin Jong, Laitham Vandermeer

KEY FORWARDS: Aaron Naughton, Josh Bruce, Josh Schache

SMALL/MEDIUM FORWARDS: Bailey Dale, Sam Lloyd, Tory Dickson, Billy Gowers, Ben Cavarra, Fergus Greene

RUCKS: Tim English, Jordon Sweet

The Dogs held firm at the trade table and landed both of their main targets - Alex Keath and Josh Bruce - without giving up their first round draft pick in what was a feather in list manager Sam Power’s cap. The Dogs have a lot to look forward to come this time next year with Next Generation Academy forward Jamarra Ugle-Hagan shaping as one of the best players in the 2020 draft pool. Narrowing the focus to this year’s draft however, the Bulldogs might end up picking at No. 15, with bids for Tom Green and possibly Liam Henry set to be matched before the Dogs’ first selection. The Dogs have been linked to draft bolter Kysaiah Pickett, who got a relatively late invitation to the draft and also shapes as an option for Melbourne. Speedy Sandringham Dragons product Miles Bergman is another who should fall in this range although Port Adelaide are well and truly in the hunt for him in the first round as well. Judging by the back end of the season, the Dogs list is in very good shape however, they are known to be keen on excellent kicks and decision makers. Some ruck depth wouldn’t go astray either given there is little back-up for the emerging Tim English.

[GVGjr]

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This from the Hun

Melbourne is circling lethal small forward Kysaiah Pickett with its No. 10 pick in Wednesday’s national draft.

The dynamic goal kicker is considered one of the most exciting players in this year’s crop for his spectacular high marks and intensive tackle pressure.

Pickett has drawn comparisons to Hawthorn champion Cyril Rioli for his desperate defensive acts and mercurial feats inside 50m.

The nephew of dual premiership player Byron Pickett would fill a key void for the Demons who are desperate to ramp up their tackle pressure in the forward half next season

Melbourne want to replace retired speedster Jeff Garlett and had one of the worst forward half retention rates in the competition last season.

But Pickett would add a razor-sharp edge to the Demons’ forward arc and would be expected to push for selection in the early part of next season.

The 171cm SANFL star soared up draft rankings in the back half of the season and is now considered the top small forward in the draft.

Pickett is also on the Western Bulldogs’ radar at pick No. 13, but the Demons are seriously considering snapping him up at pick 10.

At Melbourne he would join forces with his cousin, Neville Jetta.

West Coast’s Liam Ryan is also a cousin while Richmond Grand Final hero Marlion Pickett is an uncle.

Melbourne made a clever trade this week with Fremantle, swapping pick eight for 10 and 28. The Dees are expected to take ruckman-key forward Luke Jackson at pick three.

The Dees are confident Jackson, who has been likened to Collingwood ace Brodie Grundy, can work in tandem with superstar ruckman Max Gawn and flourish in the early part of his career as a forward.

Jackson and Pickett would be a silver lining to a disastrous 2019 finishing second-last with only five wins.

But the Demons have made bold change since then, overhauling the fitness and coaching departments.

Melbourne is also eyeing two delisted senior players, key forward Mitch Brown from Essendon and discarded Docker Harley Bennell.

[bulldogtragic]

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Pickett going from around 30 into Top 10, post combine. That's a bolter.

[GVGjr]

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My gut feel is that we really want Kysaiah Pickett at pick 13 as we rate his attacking play and that he can impact the scoreboard.
The fact that he would also kick start our long overdue indigenous program would be another tick alongside of his name

If he doesn't get there then it appears that Cody Weightman might be plan B in a same, same but different small forward option
Miles Bergman might be around the mark and coincidentally he is also someone that can hit the scoreboard and then there is a real chance that a couple of players could slide down the order that we might consider.

Options aplenty but I do think we might be prepared to overlook some of the more highly rated players if Pickett is available. I'm not sure we have the same dedication towards Weightman or Bergman though

The 2nd pick that is so late in proceedings could be used on another indigenous player if we land Pickett or it could be used to address our lack of rucks and key forwards

I'm not sure if there is a rule we can exploit in terms of the rookie spots but you would have to think Lachlan Young is a fair chance to be promoted off the rookie list

There are many players I rate but we just don't have the spots to get them

[The Adelaide Connection]

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What we really want is for Melbourne to play the ultimate party pooper (or party starter from our perspective) and nominate Green at 3 (with GWS matching) and then back it up by nominating Henry (again at 3). Melbourne and Freo already have bad blood form the Hogan trade, so this is a chance for them to twist the knife.

The reality is that Henry probably should be top 5 in Melbourne’s thinking (they are hell bent on a small forward and likely to have to choose a more speculative bolter with 10) and it wouldn’t be disastrous if Freo called their bluff and let them have him (which they probably wouldn’t do).

From Melbourne’s point of view they still likely get Jackson (or whoever they are looking at with 3) but it puts two picks on the table at their 10 that weren’t going to be there.

It would be the theatre that the AFL would love with literally every teams strategy out the window with two extra players sliding through to their pick. It would cause us a selection headache, but a good headache.

[GVGjr]

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What we really want is for Melbourne to play the ultimate party pooper (or party starter from our perspective) and nominate Green at 3 (with GWS matching) and then back it up by nominating Henry (again at 3). Melbourne and Freo already have bad blood form the Hogan trade, so this is a chance for them to twist the knife.

Whilst a lot of what you say would be good for many clubs the problem for Melbourne would mean that they are effectively telling their supporter base and sponsors that Jackson was their 3rd choice rather than him being their 1st choice.
I don't think that is as straight forward as many might believe

Sydney might be prepared to do it a few positions later with GWS for Green but I'm still not sure if Melbourne would call Henry's name with their 2nd pick

[Twodogs]

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Whilst a lot of what you say would be good for many clubs the problem for Melbourne would mean that they are effectively telling their supporter base and sponsors that Jackson was their 3rd choice rather than him being their 1st choice.
I don't think that is as straight forward as many might believe

Sydney might be prepared to do it a few positions later with GWS for Green but I'm still not sure if Melbourne would call Henry's name with their 2nd pick

Melbourne are capable of doing anything and not necessarily the correct/best strategic/most beneficial to their club thing for their club, It doesn't matter though because just like any indulged kid mummy and daddy (the AFL Commission) will be there with an open cheque book to bail them out. I wouldn't want us to be managing our strategy with half an eye towards what Melbourne are doing, unless it's to do the exact opposite to what they do!



Who is their recruiter?