Former St Kilda player Sam Gilbert has been handed a two year drug ban while playing with Sandringham

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  • Axe Man
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    • Nov 2008
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    Former St Kilda player Sam Gilbert has been handed a two year drug ban while playing with Sandringham

    Former St Kilda player Sam Gilbert has been handed a two year drug ban while playing with Sandringham

    Former St Kilda player Sam Gilbert has been slapped with a two-year suspension for testing positive to cocaine on game day last year.

    Gilbert, 33, returned the positive test the day VFL football returned to the Saints’ Moorabbin base (RSEA Park) on a Sunday afternoon in May last year.

    The Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority (ASADA) acknowledged the AFL’s decision to impose a 24-month ban on Gilbert, which expires on June 9 next year.

    Gilbert played 208 games for the Saints, including their three Grand Finals in 2009-10, but was delisted after the 2018 season.

    The defender chose to sign with St Kilda’s VFL affiliate, Sandringham Zebras, as a playing-assistant coach in 2019. He had no remaining ties to St Kilda when the incident occurred.

    The Saints weren’t immediately notified about Gilbert’s infraction and his suspension came as news for some at the club yesterday.

    Gilbert starred with 24 disposals, five tackles, a goal and 118 KFC SuperCoach points in Sandringham’s two-point win against Frankston just moments before he failed the random drug test.

    The ASADA sanctions website added Gilbert to its list of violations. It stated that Gilbert had the presence of ‘Benzoylecgonine (metabolite of cocaine)’ in his system.

    “Mr Gilbert, a player in the Victorian Football League, returned an Adverse Analytical Finding (AAF) from an in-competition doping control test on 5 May 2019,” ASADA said in a statement.

    “His sample was analysed at the Australian Sports Drug Testing Laboratory, part of the National Measurement Institute, which detected the presence of Benzoylecgonine (a metabolite of Cocaine).

    “The AFL imposed a two-year ban on Mr Gilbert commencing on 6 June 2019.”

    Gilbert played another four VFL matches for Sandringham following his test on May 5, and only started serving his suspension after his final game.

    Gilbert stood down from both his playing and coaching positions and he has not returned to the VFL club since.

    ASADA provided additional information on the banned substance. It stated:

    “Generally, cocaine produces an intense ‘rush’ with users feeling a sense of euphoria, alertness, arousal, and increased confidence.

    “Many users find the drug addictive and may face a number of short and long term health problems including an irregular heartbeat, chest pain, kidney failure, and seizures or stroke.”
  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44622

    #2
    Re: Former St Kilda player Sam Gilbert has been handed a two year drug ban while playing with Sandringham

    They really need to ramp up the testing of players. He's had access to plenty of education over the years on what not to do and yet even with a dual playing and coaching role he couldn't contain himself during the season.
    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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    • jeemak
      Bulldog Legend
      • Oct 2010
      • 21817

      #3
      Re: Former St Kilda player Sam Gilbert has been handed a two year drug ban while playing with Sandringham

      On the nose beers midweek...…
      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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      • jeemak
        Bulldog Legend
        • Oct 2010
        • 21817

        #4
        Re: Former St Kilda player Sam Gilbert has been handed a two year drug ban while playing with Sandringham

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        They really need to ramp up the testing of players. He's had access to plenty of education over the years on what not to do and yet even with a dual playing and coaching role he couldn't contain himself during the season.
        Why do you take this view?
        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44622

          #5
          Re: Former St Kilda player Sam Gilbert has been handed a two year drug ban while playing with Sandringham

          Originally posted by jeemak
          Why do you take this view?
          The rules are pretty clear that taking drugs isn't acceptable in the AFL and that it carries a significant penalty.
          I don't think educating the players is working as well as it probably should

          With that in mind, if we increase the testing we will either catch more players out and hopefully be able to provide a better level of support for them or have it confirmed that the level of use between the players isn't as big as I think it is.

          I don't have the tolerance for people taking drugs as many others might but I suggest our current approach isn't working that well.
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • Twodogs
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 27654

            #6
            Re: Former St Kilda player Sam Gilbert has been handed a two year drug ban while playing with Sandringham

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            The rules are pretty clear that taking drugs isn't acceptable in the AFL and that it carries a significant penalty.
            I don't think educating the players is working as well as it probably should

            With that in mind, if we increase the testing we will either catch more players out and hopefully be able to provide a better level of support for them or have it confirmed that the level of use between the players isn't as big as I think it is.

            I don't have the tolerance for people taking drugs as many others might but I suggest our current approach isn't working that well.

            To be fair and with all due respect you aren't an addict. You need to be an addict and know the pain and the frustration and pointlessness that it entails before you can comment with confidence. We don't want to be like this, it's pointless-we know that and if there was a button that we could switch off that stopped our bodies and our brains screaming at us for drugs (It's hard when you crave drugs-it's takes 100% of your attention) then we would switch that switch.

            Detoxing off drugs is terrible. No matter how far you get from them it only takes one moment of weakness to be straight back at the end of the queue. That pressure can bring you down in itself. I haven't used in ten years but Christmas saw me at an AA meeting.
            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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            • jeemak
              Bulldog Legend
              • Oct 2010
              • 21817

              #7
              Re: Former St Kilda player Sam Gilbert has been handed a two year drug ban while playing with Sandringham

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              The rules are pretty clear that taking drugs isn't acceptable in the AFL and that it carries a significant penalty.
              I don't think educating the players is working as well as it probably should

              With that in mind, if we increase the testing we will either catch more players out and hopefully be able to provide a better level of support for them or have it confirmed that the level of use between the players isn't as big as I think it is.

              I don't have the tolerance for people taking drugs as many others might but I suggest our current approach isn't working that well.
              The players are clearly educated, they face large penalties if caught with drugs in their systems on matchday, yet some still run the gauntlet. I'm probably a bit like you, in that I think more tests will result in more positive tests for illicit substances, but I don't know whether it will do anything to help curb the issue (if it is an issue).

              It's difficult to gauge whether the current approach is working better than other approaches might.
              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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              • soupman
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Nov 2007
                • 5113

                #8
                Re: Former St Kilda player Sam Gilbert has been handed a two year drug ban while playing with Sandringham

                With this year being a write off it's a good time to get a 2 year ban btw.
                I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                • comrade
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 18027

                  #9
                  Re: Former St Kilda player Sam Gilbert has been handed a two year drug ban while playing with Sandringham

                  Anyone know what testing protocols are during the Covid lockdown?
                  Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44622

                    #10
                    Re: Former St Kilda player Sam Gilbert has been handed a two year drug ban while playing with Sandringham

                    Originally posted by soupaman
                    With this year being a write off it's a good time to get a 2 year ban btw.
                    I'm not sure that is correct, lets see if Sandringham still regards him as a potential coach once the ban expires

                    For AFL clubs that will be looking to cut players with a reduced squads something like getting caught using drugs might just be the catalyst to be delisted.
                    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44622

                      #11
                      Re: Former St Kilda player Sam Gilbert has been handed a two year drug ban while playing with Sandringham

                      Originally posted by comrade
                      Anyone know what testing protocols are during the Covid lockdown?
                      The season has started so I think it would mean if anyone is caught it would be regarded as in-season testing. Knowing that the players are at home will make it easier to test players as well.
                      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                      • comrade
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                        • Jun 2008
                        • 18027

                        #12
                        Re: Former St Kilda player Sam Gilbert has been handed a two year drug ban while playing with Sandringham

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        The season has started so I think it would mean if anyone is caught it would be regarded as in-season testing. Knowing that the players are at home will make it easier to test players as well.
                        Does drug testing count as an essential service under social distancing rules?
                        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44622

                          #13
                          Re: Former St Kilda player Sam Gilbert has been handed a two year drug ban while playing with Sandringham

                          Originally posted by comrade
                          Does drug testing count as an essential service under social distancing rules?
                          Good question, would it be regarded as part of a medical process or a healthcare practice?
                          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                          • jeemak
                            Bulldog Legend
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 21817

                            #14
                            Re: Former St Kilda player Sam Gilbert has been handed a two year drug ban while playing with Sandringham

                            It would be considered part of your job. And you don't need to be near anyone to piss into a cup...…...if subsequent blood tests are needed they can be done in an environment that is safe.
                            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 44622

                              #15
                              Re: Former St Kilda player Sam Gilbert has been handed a two year drug ban while playing with Sandringham

                              Originally posted by jeemak
                              It would be considered part of your job. And you don't need to be near anyone to piss into a cup...…...if subsequent blood tests are needed they can be done in an environment that is safe.
                              You would hope players don't see this period of isolation as an opportunity that they won't be tested

                              Back to Gilbert, at his age the suspension probably closes the door on playing at the VFL level and I doubt he will now be looked upon favorably for any coaching roles.
                              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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