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  • Hotdog60
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Aug 2009
    • 5907

    Draft shake-up: Next Gen Academies to phase out access to top prospects



    THE AFL is set to phase out clubs' access to leading Next Generation Academy draft prospects after changes to the program.

    The League last week announced that it would take control of the Next Generation Academies with the assistance of the clubs as part of a range of modifications to the talent pathway.

    Since 2016, the NGAs have been club-run (with an annual financial contribution from the AFL) with the incentive to develop multicultural and Indigenous talents and then get first access to them in the draft.
    But in what will be a significant shift to the NGA rules, clubs expect that at least the first round, and possibly the second, would be made 'protected' from NGA bids.
    This means there would be no ability to match bids on NGA players within that protected part of the draft, making for a less compromised pool given the clubs will not have invested as much resources and development in the players.

    However, after the protected part of the draft has ended, it is expected that clubs will be able to list their NGA talents with later picks as normal with the AFL keen to continue its drive for more diversity within its playing ranks.

    The changes will not come into effect before the 2020 NAB AFL Draft.

    But for example under that model the Western Bulldogs would not get priority access on Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, who is tipped as the possible No.1 pick this year but is linked to the Dogs under the NGA rules.
    It also means top-end graduates of the program such as Collingwood's Isaac Quaynor, North Melbourne's Tarryn Thomas and Fremantle's Liam Henry in previous years would have been available to all clubs given they were first-round selections.

    But the likes of Collingwood's Atu Bosenavulagi and Melbourne's Toby Bedford, who were taken late in the 2018 draft, would still be free to automatically join their NGA clubs.
    Clubs have been notified of impending changes to the Next Generation Academy system but a timeline on when – and how – the phasing out of access to the top prospects will begin has yet to be detailed.

    Some have proposed that players who have already signed up to their NGA programs who are aged 15 and over should be tied to the club under the current bidding rules, which is the same as father-son and northern Academy players.

    They have suggested that players were lured to the AFL code from other sports as teenagers because of the Next Generation Academies and that they should be able to have access for them if they are deemed good enough to be selected in the 'protected' part of the draft.

    The AFL still wants clubs to have a role in the implementation of the NGA programs, knowing that the attachment of a club brand is important for juniors coming through.

    This year looms as the biggest in NGA history, with Ugle-Hagan, Lachie Jones (Port Adelaide), Reef McInnes (Collingwood), Connor Downie (Hawthorn), Cody Brand (Essendon) and Joel Western (Fremantle) all possible top-25 picks as NGA products.

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  • comrade
    Hall of Fame
    • Jun 2008
    • 18030

    #2
    Re: Draft shake-up: Next Gen Academies to phase out access to top prospects

    Gut feel is Jamarra was the catalyst and COVID helped push this drastic change over the edge. Thank the lord no changes to take place until next year, when JUH will be tucked away in the red, white and blue.
    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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    • Grantysghost
      Bouncing Strong
      • Apr 2010
      • 18964

      #3
      Re: Draft shake-up: Next Gen Academies to phase out access to top prospects

      Cant have the dogs "winning". Flag, change the rules on third man up and handball. NGA, completely re-write even though the Swans have Heeney, Mills and Blakey and thats a ok.
      As you say thank god we still get JUH.
      BT COME BACK!​

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      • Happy Days
        Hall of Fame
        • May 2008
        • 10143

        #4
        Re: Draft shake-up: Next Gen Academies to phase out access to top prospects

        To be honest this is pretty needed. The system should be to get kids from marginalised backgrounds or circumstances into the AFL, not giving clubs free cracks at top talent just because. The tipping point should've been 356-game-playing John Blakey's kid going to a club his dad played none of those games for, but I guess he would've been lost to footy forever if not for the Swans set-up.

        Don't get me wrong I'm stoked we're getting Buddy 2: JUHdgement Day (you're all welcome), but it's pretty hard to justify. Keeping the Academies but barring at least first round access makes sense.
        - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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        • Grantysghost
          Bouncing Strong
          • Apr 2010
          • 18964

          #5
          Re: Draft shake-up: Next Gen Academies to phase out access to top prospects

          Originally posted by Happy Days
          To be honest this is pretty needed. The system should be to get kids from marginalised backgrounds or circumstances into the AFL, not giving clubs free cracks at top talent just because. The tipping point should've been 356-game-playing John Blakey's kid going to a club his dad played none of those games for, but I guess he would've been lost to footy forever if not for the Swans set-up.

          Don't get me wrong I'm stoked we're getting Buddy 2: JUHdgement Day (you're all welcome), but it's pretty hard to justify. Keeping the Academies but barring at least first round access makes sense.
          But JUH is from a marginalised background. So it only works if they aren't really good?
          Ahem sorry JUHdgement day. (Like it)
          BT COME BACK!​

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          • Happy Days
            Hall of Fame
            • May 2008
            • 10143

            #6
            Re: Draft shake-up: Next Gen Academies to phase out access to top prospects

            Originally posted by Grantysghost
            But JUH is from a marginalised background. So it only works if they aren't really good?
            Ahem sorry JUHdgement day. (Like it)
            I'm pretty sure Jamarra would've made it to the AFL without our help. I'm not saying the system should be scrapped but it's clearly being taken advantage of.
            - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44649

              #7
              Re: Draft shake-up: Next Gen Academies to phase out access to top prospects

              Originally posted by Happy Days
              I'm pretty sure Jamarra would've made it to the AFL without our help. I'm not saying the system should be scrapped but it's clearly being taken advantage of.
              No doubt.
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              • EasternWest
                Hall of Fame
                • Aug 2009
                • 10002

                #8
                Re: Draft shake-up: Next Gen Academies to phase out access to top prospects

                Originally posted by Happy Days
                To be honest this is pretty needed. The system should be to get kids from marginalised backgrounds or circumstances into the AFL, not giving clubs free cracks at top talent just because. The tipping point should've been 356-game-playing John Blakey's kid going to a club his dad played none of those games for, but I guess he would've been lost to footy forever if not for the Swans set-up.

                Don't get me wrong I'm stoked we're getting Buddy 2: JUHdgement Day (you're all welcome), but it's pretty hard to justify. Keeping the Academies but barring at least first round access makes sense.
                It's the Juhggernaut, bitch.
                "It's over. It's all over."

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                • Grantysghost
                  Bouncing Strong
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 18964

                  #9
                  Re: Draft shake-up: Next Gen Academies to phase out access to top prospects

                  Originally posted by Happy Days
                  I'm pretty sure Jamarra would've made it to the AFL without our help. I'm not saying the system should be scrapped but it's clearly being taken advantage of.
                  Indigenous scholarship program to Scotch helps too but not everyone gets that. Hopefully the changes aren't political and ensure kids still get noticed.
                  BT COME BACK!​

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                  • comrade
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 18030

                    #10
                    Re: Draft shake-up: Next Gen Academies to phase out access to top prospects

                    Originally posted by EasternWest
                    It's the Juhggernaut, bitch.
                    JUHggerNAUGHTON.
                    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66726

                      #11
                      Re: Draft shake-up: Next Gen Academies to phase out access to top prospects

                      Originally posted by Happy Days
                      To be honest this is pretty needed. The system should be to get kids from marginalised backgrounds or circumstances into the AFL, not giving clubs free cracks at top talent just because. The tipping point should've been 356-game-playing John Blakey's kid going to a club his dad played none of those games for, but I guess he would've been lost to footy forever if not for the Swans set-up.

                      Don't get me wrong I'm stoked we're getting Buddy 2: JUHdgement Day (you're all welcome), but it's pretty hard to justify. Keeping the Academies but barring at least first round access makes sense.
                      What incentives are there for clubs to nuture, train and prepare these kids for AFL if they don't get the reward back?
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                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • MrMahatma
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 3966

                        #12
                        Re: Draft shake-up: Next Gen Academies to phase out access to top prospects

                        It’s interesting. You could assume that these players improve cause of the time and effort clubs put into them. So a 3rd rounder might become a second rounder cause they’re better due to the club’s resources. Or a second rounder might become a 1st?

                        I get what they’re trying to do/stop... but doesn’t this just likely result in less talent/development in kids pre-draft age?

                        Out of interest, where was JUH rated at age 14? And would be me a possible #1 without the NGA?

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                        • Ozza
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 6402

                          #13
                          Re: Draft shake-up: Next Gen Academies to phase out access to top prospects

                          I don't necessarily disagree with the changes to exclude the top tier talent. But it is worth noting that we have worked with "Buddy 2: JUHdgement Day" (love it) since he was 14.....maybe he is still the best talent in the land regardless....maybe he doesn't develop at the same rate, maybe he plays basketball instead....we'll never be certain.

                          But what I am confident in, is that clubs will lose interest in NGA prosepects that aren't immediately top tier, if it becomes purely project type players who are long shots. So the moves made by the AFL, are possibly the beginning of the end for NGA. COVID has undoubtedly affected it, but are we serious about finding the best talent from multicultural & indigenous backgrounds or is the AFL happy to peel it back and let soccer and basketball have a crack.

                          I guess what we've learned, is that a genuine NGA programme is a nice to have when everyone is cashed up

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                          • Grantysghost
                            Bouncing Strong
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 18964

                            #14
                            Re: Draft shake-up: Next Gen Academies to phase out access to top prospects

                            I think the fact this season's draft is coincidentally so compromised is the main reason. Optics. Probably some powerful lobbying as well.
                            I can certainly see an argument for Adelaide to be upset this season, as we would be if it was us. However their downfall is their own doing since having played in a flag and being minor premier in 2017.
                            Its just more policy on the run for mine.
                            BT COME BACK!​

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                            • ratsmac
                              Coaching Staff
                              • May 2009
                              • 3975

                              #15
                              Re: Draft shake-up: Next Gen Academies to phase out access to top prospects

                              Develop them but not too much. Teach them to run to the second best spots. So say a club is developing a kid who starts making huge strides with extra coach and confidence he now has and next thing he looks first round worthy, does the club contact him and say we are pulling you out the program because you're now too good?

                              Gee they are angry we are getting JUHdgement Day!

                              Without knowing much about NGA and the need for it in the first place I think they simply need to scrap the program where its run by the clubs and make it a scholarship for the eligible kids to join the AIS AFL Academy or similar type programs that already exist.
                              They've done studies you know, 60% of the time, it works every time!
                              Brian Fantana.

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