Ray Chamberlain umpiring in regional leagues now?

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  • EasternWest
    Hall of Fame
    • Aug 2009
    • 10119

    #1

    Ray Chamberlain umpiring in regional leagues now?

    "It's over. It's all over."
  • Topdog
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7483

    #2
    Re: Ray Chamberlain umpiring in regional leagues now?

    Wow that's awful

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    • comrade
      Hall of Fame
      • Jun 2008
      • 18103

      #3
      Re: Ray Chamberlain umpiring in regional leagues now?

      Biggest screwjob since this:

      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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      • EasternWest
        Hall of Fame
        • Aug 2009
        • 10119

        #4
        Re: Ray Chamberlain umpiring in regional leagues now?

        Originally posted by Topdog
        Wow that's awful
        I'm loathe to say the non officiating umpire is cheating, but I can't think of any reason why he'd do that. Otherwise it smacks of "how can I make this about me?".

        I hope the decision is reversed at appeal because it's just ridiculous.
        "It's over. It's all over."

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        • Axe Man
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2008
          • 11486

          #5
          Re: Ray Chamberlain umpiring in regional leagues now?

          Originally posted by EasternWest
          I'm loathe to say the non officiating umpire is cheating, but I can't think of any reason why he'd do that. Otherwise it smacks of "how can I make this about me?".

          I hope the decision is reversed at appeal because it's just ridiculous.
          There are some occasions where the non-officiating umpire should get involved where clearly the umpire in control has had their vision obscured and missed a clear throw, or high tackle for example. However these instances are fairly rare. I imagine umpires would be pretty annoyed with their colleagues if they are coming in and overriding their decisions.

          Here the officiating umpire was in the perfect position to judge the line of the kicker and clearly didn't adjudge him to have played on. If I was the officiating umpire I would have told the other clown to F right off.

          Apparently the club have raised previous concerns about this umpire so it feels like there is a past prejudice at play here. There definitely seem to be local umpires that don't like certain clubs for whatever reason and let it effect their decision making.

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          • EasternWest
            Hall of Fame
            • Aug 2009
            • 10119

            #6
            Re: Ray Chamberlain umpiring in regional leagues now?

            Originally posted by Axe Man
            There are some occasions where the non-officiating umpire should get involved
            Sure but this ain't one.

            This is Chamberlaining of the higher order.
            "It's over. It's all over."

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            • jeemak
              Bulldog Legend
              • Oct 2010
              • 22141

              #7
              Re: Ray Chamberlain umpiring in regional leagues now?

              Maybe this is the guy Ray looks up to.......
              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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              • EasternWest
                Hall of Fame
                • Aug 2009
                • 10119

                #8
                Re: Ray Chamberlain umpiring in regional leagues now?

                Originally posted by jeemak
                Maybe this is the guy Ray looks up to.......
                Isn't that everyone?
                "It's over. It's all over."

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                • jeemak
                  Bulldog Legend
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 22141

                  #9
                  Re: Ray Chamberlain umpiring in regional leagues now?

                  Originally posted by EasternWest
                  Isn't that everyone?
                  Vintage EW.
                  TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                  • EasternWest
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 10119

                    #10
                    Re: Ray Chamberlain umpiring in regional leagues now?

                    Originally posted by jeemak
                    Vintage EW.
                    Try the veal
                    "It's over. It's all over."

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                    • jeemak
                      Bulldog Legend
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 22141

                      #11
                      Re: Ray Chamberlain umpiring in regional leagues now?

                      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                      • jeemak
                        Bulldog Legend
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 22141

                        #12
                        Re: Ray Chamberlain umpiring in regional leagues now?

                        Originally posted by Axe Man
                        There are some occasions where the non-officiating umpire should get involved where clearly the umpire in control has had their vision obscured and missed a clear throw, or high tackle for example. However these instances are fairly rare. I imagine umpires would be pretty annoyed with their colleagues if they are coming in and overriding their decisions.

                        Here the officiating umpire was in the perfect position to judge the line of the kicker and clearly didn't adjudge him to have played on. If I was the officiating umpire I would have told the other clown to F right off.

                        Apparently the club have raised previous concerns about this umpire so it feels like there is a past prejudice at play here. There definitely seem to be local umpires that don't like certain clubs for whatever reason and let it effect their decision making.
                        In the ammos it seemed certain umpires favoured some of the more established A and B section old boy clubs over the less established ones. Whether it be allowing players to continue running after bouncing whilst being tackled (whilst everyone had stopped expecting a free kick), to not overturning clear missed shots at goal or touched off the boot goals, or allowing specific rucks just to throw the ball instead of handballing it after a throw-in and simply ignoring a rule change that meant a ruck tackled when taking possession off a ruck contest was immediately holding the ball you bet it, they ignored it.

                        Once it sets in it kind of becomes self-perpetuating because the abuse ramps up and the umpire feels more justified in being prejudiced as a result. It's a bit strange that this type of stuff happens, but it does because people are strange.*

                        *Note - the overwhelming majority of umpires at local levels do an amazing job and often under trying circumstances. Mostly people need to chill out and leave them alone and encourage/ thank them.
                        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                        • Axe Man
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 11486

                          #13
                          Re: Ray Chamberlain umpiring in regional leagues now?

                          Originally posted by EasternWest
                          Sure but this ain't one.

                          This is Chamberlaining of the higher order.
                          Did you even make it to the end of my first sentence?

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                          • Axe Man
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 11486

                            #14
                            Re: Ray Chamberlain umpiring in regional leagues now?

                            Originally posted by jeemak
                            In the ammos it seemed certain umpires favoured some of the more established A and B section old boy clubs over the less established ones. Whether it be allowing players to continue running after bouncing whilst being tackled (whilst everyone had stopped expecting a free kick), to not overturning clear missed shots at goal or touched off the boot goals, or allowing specific rucks just to throw the ball instead of handballing it after a throw-in and simply ignoring a rule change that meant a ruck tackled when taking possession off a ruck contest was immediately holding the ball you bet it, they ignored it.

                            Once it sets in it kind of becomes self-perpetuating because the abuse ramps up and the umpire feels more justified in being prejudiced as a result. It's a bit strange that this type of stuff happens, but it does because people are strange.*

                            *Note - the overwhelming majority of umpires at local levels do an amazing job and often under trying circumstances. Mostly people need to chill out and leave them alone and encourage/ thank them.
                            Completely agree.

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                            • EasternWest
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 10119

                              #15
                              Re: Ray Chamberlain umpiring in regional leagues now?

                              Originally posted by Axe Man
                              Did you even make it to the end of my first sentence?
                              I never do, why would this one be different ?

                              Oh yeah sorry I did - my comment was meant to be agreeing with you but I didn't word it properly.
                              "It's over. It's all over."

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