VFL Round 8 Footscray v Collingwood - 2022

[Bornadog]

Re: VFL Round 8 Footscray v Collingwood - 2022

Agree in part with this, but think it lies somewhere in the middle. He’s doing nothing to make his own luck right now.

Maybe do what BJ said and move him back to get him in the game.

[kruder]

Re: VFL Round 8 Footscray v Collingwood - 2022

To be fair, the delivery has been ordinary to say the least. The VFL listed players are not much chop. Big difference with Bont hitting you on the chest

I like that your glass half full bornadog its generally a good way to be but with all due respect standing not getting out of a canter has hardly anything to do with the way the ball has being kicked in. He has made 0 effort to create separation from his opponent I would say he is bordering on being disinterested.

[Bulldog Joe]

Re: VFL Round 8 Footscray v Collingwood - 2022

Could he play a few games on the wing, BJ? Seems like a good way to get involved without the pressure of a key position.

Might teach him what kind of tank he really needs.

He certainly needs to do something different. He is now looking behind where he was last year, although it is a significantly worse team to perform with.

[chef]

Re: VFL Round 8 Footscray v Collingwood - 2022

Maybe do what BJ said and move him back to get him in the game.

We should chuck him on a wing

[Grantysghost]

Re: VFL Round 8 Footscray v Collingwood - 2022

We should chuck him on a wing

It's strange that game against the swans he ran hard, harassed, tackled and worked hard into dangerous positions when we had it.
When I watch him in the vfl he looks slow and struggles to find a way to impact the game.
I guess he's really only played 20 odd games of senior football all up unlike a Mcdonald or Tillthorpe so he's very raw.
Wouldn't hurt to move him up the ground when he's struggling.

[chef]

Re: VFL Round 8 Footscray v Collingwood - 2022

It's strange that game against the swans he ran hard, harassed, tackled and worked hard into dangerous positions when we had it.
When I watch him in the vfl he looks slow and struggles to find a way to impact the game.
I guess he's really only played 20 odd games of senior football all up unlike a Mcdonald or Tillthorpe so he's very raw.
Wouldn't hurt to move him up the ground when he's struggling.

The Covid killed his development .

[The Doctor]

Re: VFL Round 8 Footscray v Collingwood - 2022

Gosh I haven't seen a Footscray team play that bad for many years. Most can't kick, catch, tackle or pick the ball up. Including senior listed players.

Only bright lights for me were Crozier and MacPherson who is certainly a chip off the old block!

[Missing Dog]

Re: VFL Round 8 Footscray v Collingwood - 2022

What's hurting him at the moment is that he doesn't have a tank. He has one effort and goes missing for 5 minutes recovering. He needs to play games to build his fitness base so he can repeatedly lead into space and pressure. Until he can begin to do that, he'll continue to struggle getting separation from his opponents or beat them through sheer workrate like Naughton.

[Bornadog]

Re: VFL Round 8 Footscray v Collingwood - 2022

• Jamarra: 5 disposals, 2 marks, 2 behinds.
• Jones: 6 disp, 1 behind
• Darcy: 7 disp, 2 marks, 2 tack
• Parker: 13 disp, 8 marks, 1 behind
• Butler: 15 disp, 4 marks, 1 tack
• Raak: 17 disp, 5 marks, 1 tack
• Bedendo: 18 disp, 7 marks, 2 tackles
• Schache: 19 disp, 8 marks, 1 goal, 1 tack

[josie]

Re: VFL Round 8 Footscray v Collingwood - 2022

What's hurting him at the moment is that he doesn't have a tank. He has one effort and goes missing for 5 minutes recovering. He needs to play games to build his fitness base so he can repeatedly lead into space and pressure. Until he can begin to do that, he'll continue to struggle getting separation from his opponents or beat them through sheer workrate like Naughton.

Well said Swoop. He took one good mark in Q1 and laid a good tackle at least twice (one was late in Q3) but then didn’t follow it up with much else. Has to learn to play almost like his life depended upon it & no matter how badly he is positioned just keep at it - like Naughton does. It does not help that our vfl team’s ball movement is often slow and indirect so forward line ends up congested or direct to advantage if an opposition player. Looks a little bereft of confidence - I like the idea of putting him on the wing or even backline so he has more touches.

Of other senior player I thought Charlie Parker got a bit of it and has a nice long kick and Bedendo early on looked good. Schache and Jones tried pretty hard all day (Schache really does need to take some angry pills though) but otherwise cupboard looks a little bare. I’m not confident Butler will be a best 22 player, hope I’m wrong.

[hujsh]

Re: VFL Round 8 Footscray v Collingwood - 2022

I thought Darcy competed well aerially in defence. I guess that's to be expected at this level and at his height but still good to see

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: VFL Round 8 Footscray v Collingwood - 2022

How did Darcy move?

[hujsh]

Re: VFL Round 8 Footscray v Collingwood - 2022

How did Darcy move?

I think a bit on the slower side. More Roughead than Naughton. Didn't seem to be caught behind his man but probably lacked the tank for more repeated high speed efforts.

[Bornadog]

Re: VFL Round 8 Footscray v Collingwood - 2022

Schache and Jones tried pretty hard all day.

Jones is definitely not a ready made player. He flashes in and out of the game. 6 touches today, he just wasn't in it. I am starting to worry about him.

[azabob]

Re: VFL Round 8 Footscray v Collingwood - 2022

Jones is definitely not a ready made player. He flashes in and out of the game. 6 touches today, he just wasn't in it. I am starting to worry about him.

Who claimed he was a ready made player? Why are you worried about a kid 8 games into a season in a team that is bottom 2?