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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #1

    2024 Rolling Draft Order

    Picks:

    2nd (Dogs)
    3rd (GCS)
    4th
    5th (Dogs)


    Giving up:

    1st (Dogs > GCS)
    3rd (Dogs > MELB)
    4th (Dogs > CARL)
    Last edited by bulldogtragic; 17-10-2023, 07:15 PM.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023
  • azabob
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 15479

    #2
    Re: 2024 Rolling Draft Order

    So at this stage no first or third rounder? A bit of work to do.
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      #3
      Re: 2024 Rolling Draft Order

      Originally posted by azabob
      So at this stage no first or third rounder? A bit of work to do.
      Who did we give another third to? We gave ours to Melbourne and held onto GCS.
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • azabob
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 15479

        #4
        Re: 2024 Rolling Draft Order

        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
        Who did we give another third to? We gave ours to Melbourne and held onto GCS.
        Rather than admit my error I’m going to say it will go to saints for Coffield.
        More of an In Bruges guy?

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34289

          #5
          Re: 2024 Rolling Draft Order

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          Picks:

          2nd (Dogs)
          3rd (GCS)


          Giving up:

          1st (Dogs > GCS)
          3rd (Dogs > MELB)
          4th (Dogs > CARL)
          Bump. Light on at this stage.
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34289

            #6
            Re: 2024 Rolling Draft Order

            Round 1:

            Picks:

            Pick 22 (Dogs)
            Pick 54 (GCS)
            Pick 76 (Dogs)


            Giving up:

            Pick 2 (GCS)
            Pick 40 (MELB)
            Pick 58 (CARL)


            Free Agency Compo Tiers (at natural selection, not end of rounds):

            Pick 3
            Pick 23
            Pick 41
            Last edited by bulldogtragic; 17-03-2024, 07:00 PM. Reason: Added FA Tiers
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • jazzadogs
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Oct 2008
              • 5837

              #7
              Re: 2024 Rolling Draft Order

              I'm worried I'm going to hate this thread.

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34289

                #8
                Re: 2024 Rolling Draft Order

                Big game to win to ever so slightly improve the third rounder they’re giving us and giving them a slightly lower first back.


                Round 2:

                Picks:

                Pick 29 (Dogs)
                Pick 50 (GCS)
                Pick 83 (Dogs)


                Giving up:

                Pick 9 (GCS)
                Pick 47 (MELB)
                Pick 65 (CARL)


                Free Agency Compo Tiers (at natural selection, not end of rounds):

                Pick 10
                Pick 30
                Pick 48
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34289

                  #9
                  Re: 2024 Rolling Draft Order

                  Round 2 Sanders Trade:

                  I?m keeping the math out it to keep it simple. The rolling trade is now Picks (after sliding in the ND after bids) 13, 23 & 9 - for - Picks 6/Sanders, 50, Freijah & 1/3 points for Croft (with 2/3 points from the Coffield/Pick 35/F4 trade). Assuming there?s at least 1 bid in the top 10 and 50 sits the same with picks chewed up even after FA compo then:

                  Out: Picks 10, 13 & 23
                  In: Sanders, 1/3 Croft at Pick 15, Freijah & Pick 50


                  That?s not looking that bad with Sanders a jet, Croft a talent who slid giving us a free hit on Freijah who might be a handy player with Pick 50 replacing the third we gave up for Harmes. We?ve paid a premium but not nearly as high as it looked at the time if we can stay no lower than 10th/where we are now.



                  Edit:

                  With the 2/3 Croft, they were similar picks to Freijah & Pick 50. So if you want to even more generous, you could simplify it further to attribute Freijah & 50 to the 2/3 on Croft just spent in a different way. In which case it’s:

                  Picks 10, 13 & 23 - for - Picks 6 (Sanders) & Pick 15 (Croft)

                  Then say 13 & 15/Croft cancel each other out. Picks 10 & 23 for Sanders, which is a bargain I reckon.
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34289

                    #10
                    Re: 2024 Rolling Draft Order

                    The math equation on Sanders

                    347, 347 & 287 points in thirds back: 981 Draft Points

                    (Pick 15 less 20% discount: 889 Points - 92 Points up)

                    Picks 10, 13 & 23: 1,395, 1,212 & 815: 3,422 DPs

                    Pick 6: 1,751 DPs

                    3,422 to GCS
                    2,732 to Dogs

                    690 DP the premium payable today. =Pick 28


                    So: Pick 28 in DPs is today’s cost to secure Sanders, Croft (1/3 directly from GCS), Freijah & Pick 50 this year.

                    We gave 2 x Pick 30’s for Lobb. So the cost today isn’t terrible. You need to pay a premium to get a player like Sanders while collecting Croft, Freijah & 50. That’s not huge as it stands today.
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • azabob
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15479

                      #11
                      Re: 2024 Rolling Draft Order

                      Definitely no regrets from my end on what we gave up for Sanders, Croft, Freijah, coupled with Smith and O’Driscoll.

                      We clearly had a plan which we executed and we seemed to have a bit of luck on our side as we really hit the draft.

                      I initially was concerned and quite vocal on investing so much draft capital on Croft. No issues from my end now.

                      Watching Sanders as a pure midfielder in the third quarter, certainly re-enforced why we traded up.
                      More of an In Bruges guy?

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 67679

                        #12
                        Re: 2024 Rolling Draft Order

                        Originally posted by azabob
                        Definitely no regrets from my end on what we gave up for Sanders, Croft, Freijah, coupled with Smith and O’Driscoll.

                        We clearly had a plan which we executed and we seemed to have a bit of luck on our side as we really hit the draft.

                        I initially was concerned and quite vocal on investing so much draft capital on Croft. No issues from my end now.

                        Watching Sanders as a pure midfielder in the third quarter, certainly re-enforced why we traded up.
                        I wish some how we still had a first rounder for next draft.
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                        • azabob
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 15479

                          #13
                          Re: 2024 Rolling Draft Order

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          I wish some how we still had a first rounder for next draft.
                          Yeah agree with that. Would be great to bring in another top ten midfielder.
                          More of an In Bruges guy?

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                          • Grantysghost
                            Bouncing Strong
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 19357

                            #14
                            Re: 2024 Rolling Draft Order

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            I wish some how we still had a first rounder for next draft.
                            Your wish may come true *cough*baz*cough*
                            BT COME BACK!​

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34289

                              #15
                              Re: 2024 Rolling Draft Order

                              A part from a trade, we can trade a future first for a first this year if we can find a club that wants that trade. There’s still a decent chance we have a first rounder.
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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