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  • GVGjr
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    Originally posted by Axe Man

    What time are we meeting at the nets?
    If I'm running late please start without me

    We need an Excel spreadsheet Axey

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  • Before I Die
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    • Scott2016 commented
      Today, 03:12 PM
      I think he cost us 3 games where he went off with Hamstring tightness in the first qtr and then played next week. Dont count that playing every game.
    Ok, would you count it as "Selected every game", which reflects the value the MC place on his contribution to the team.

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  • Scott2016
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    I think he cost us 3 games where he went off with Hamstring tightness in the first qtr and then played next week. Dont count that playing every game.

  • Grantysghost
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    Originally posted by Scott2016

    Can you tell me another club that would take Vandermeer.? He hardly touches the ball, jelly arms in a tackle and makes mistakes when he actually gets the ball. First year kids are as good as him. Trade and see what is on offer.
    I get he's a whipping boy but he'd play for a lot of sides.
    His pressure is fantastic.

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  • Before I Die
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    Originally posted by Scott2016

    Can you tell me another club that would take Vandermeer.? He hardly touches the ball, jelly arms in a tackle and makes mistakes when he actually gets the ball. First year kids are as good as him. Trade and see what is on offer.
    The guy that played every game last year? Just maybe you are missing something in his game that the MC value.

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  • Scott2016
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    Originally posted by GVGjr

    In the last couple of years we have bucked the trend with drafting a couple of more players than we previously have and I wonder if it's been to get ahead of a more significant correction?
    Last year we also traded back into the draft to secure Davidson and L.Kennedy later in the order.
    We currently only have a 1st and 2nd rounder for next season so how many players could we drop off because our selections would be right at the back end of the draft.
    There will likely be a couple of retirements and the maximum number of changes we could really go with is about 7 spots but more likely 6.
    I can see some one year extensions to some of our players coming out of contract

    As I understand it, and thanks to Zero Hanger, these are the players coming out of contract this year:

    Oskar Baker- Likely delist
    Marcus Bontempelli - Long term deal
    Luke Cleary - Likely delist
    Nicholas Coffield - Likely delist
    Taylor Duryea - Likely retirement
    Jason Johannisen - Likely retirement
    Aurthur Jones - Possible delist or 1 year deal
    Liam Jones - 1 year deal
    Tom Liberatore - 1 year deal
    Caleb Poulter - Possible delist or 1 year deal
    Ed Richards - Long term deal
    Anthony Scott - Likely delist or 1 year deal
    Lachlan Smith - 2 year deal
    Adam Treloar - 1 year deal
    Laitham Vandermeer - 2 year deal
    We would most likely have to make a decision on either Crossley or Brew as well.

    There could be a case for the retention of of one or two out of A.Jones, Poulter or Scott perhaps even Coffield or Cleary.

    We certainly cannot sensibly delist 9 or 10 players so there will likely be some 1 year extensions.

    We will still have room for Butters.
    Can you tell me another club that would take Vandermeer.? He hardly touches the ball, jelly arms in a tackle and makes mistakes when he actually gets the ball. First year kids are as good as him. Trade and see what is on offer.

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  • Scott2016
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    Originally posted by Rusty12
    The purpose of this is not to be toxic. However, lists are turned over every year.

    The Dogs have a very thin tail.

    The following list of players, I doubt there are more than 1 or 2 still on the list in 2 years.

    TRELOR - 1 Year deals, Inside Mid or nothing. Maybe some Sub thrown in. Injury will determine if that is 1 or 3

    BUSS - Not sure, beyond the current deal. Probably 50/50 if signed Vs cut or traded

    BAKER - End of his current deal, cut.

    DURYEA - Final Year, Jaques in that role, probably before 2025 is out.

    COFFIELD- End of his current deal, cut.

    O'DONNEL - Not sure, beyond the current deal. Probably 50/50 if signed Vs cut

    LIBBA - 1 Year deals, Inside Mid or nothing. Maybe some Sub thrown in. Concussion or knee degeneration will impact how long.

    HARMES - End of his current deal, cut.

    VANDEMEER - 50/50 - End of his current deal, re-sign or cut.

    KHAMIS - End of his current deal, cut.

    POULTER - End of his current deal, cut.

    SCOTT - End of his current deal, cut.

    MCNEIL - 50/50 - End of his current deal, re-sign or cut.

    A JONES - End of his current deal, cut.

    CLEARY End of his current deal, cut.

    GARICA -Traded

    JJ - End of his current deal, cut.

    SMITH - End of his current deal, cut.

    GARDNER - End of his current deal, cut.
    Im keeping Buss, Smith and Odonnell. Libba and Treloar on one year deals. The rest are list clogging. Minimum wages at best as no one else will pay overs to have them on their list. If someone sees value then do a trade but not worth paying overs to keep them at all.

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  • Axe Man
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    Originally posted by GVGjr
    As I understand it, and thanks to Zero Hanger, these are the players coming out of contract this year:
    What time are we meeting at the nets?

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  • GVGjr
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    Originally posted by Mofra
    From that list that's Baker, Cleary, Coffield, Duryea, JJ & Scott gone - 6 players before we consider anyone else leaving or asking for trade.

    That's enough list turnover for one year. Based on that, Jones & Poulter probably get extensions.
    That's how I see it and why I listed Poulter and Jones as possible delists.

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  • Stevo
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    Originally posted by Mofra
    From that list that's Baker, Cleary, Coffield, Duryea, JJ & Scott gone - 6 players before we consider anyone else leaving or asking for trade.

    That's enough list turnover for one year. Based on that, Jones & Poulter probably get extensions.
    Now that it's been laid out like that I agree, clearing 6 spots would be ideal with a potential for 7 so there will be some deals.

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  • Stevo
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    This is a valuable list to work off an it explains why clubs including ours sometimes offer deals for players who might be more on the fringe of best 30.
    You might think a player is not in serious contention for a senior spot but there is a limit to how many players can be moved on.
    I can see why we will need to re-sign a small number of players that most of us would think are vulnerable.

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  • Mofra
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    Originally posted by GVGjr

    In the last couple of years we have bucked the trend with drafting a couple of more players than we previously have and I wonder if it's been to get ahead of a more significant correction?
    Last year we also traded back into the draft to secure Davidson and L.Kennedy later in the order.
    We currently only have a 1st and 2nd rounder for next season so how many players could we drop off because our selections would be right at the back end of the draft.
    There will likely be a couple of retirements and the maximum number of changes we could really go with is about 7 spots but more likely 6.
    I can see some one year extensions to some of our players coming out of contract

    As I understand it, and thanks to Zero Hanger, these are the players coming out of contract this year:

    Oskar Baker- Likely delist
    Marcus Bontempelli - Long term deal
    Luke Cleary - Likely delist
    Nicholas Coffield - Likely delist
    Taylor Duryea - Likely retirement
    Jason Johannisen - Likely retirement
    Aurthur Jones - Possible delist or 1 year deal
    Liam Jones - 1 year deal
    Tom Liberatore - 1 year deal
    Caleb Poulter - Possible delist or 1 year deal
    Ed Richards - Long term deal
    Anthony Scott - Likely delist or 1 year deal
    Lachlan Smith - 2 year deal
    Adam Treloar - 1 year deal
    Laitham Vandermeer - 2 year deal
    We would most likely have to make a decision on either Crossley or Brew as well.

    There could be a case for the retention of of one or two out of A.Jones, Poulter or Scott perhaps even Coffield or Cleary.

    We certainly cannot sensibly delist 9 or 10 players so there will likely be some 1 year extensions.

    We will still have room for Butters.
    From that list that's Baker, Cleary, Coffield, Duryea, JJ & Scott gone - 6 players before we consider anyone else leaving or asking for trade.

    That's enough list turnover for one year. Based on that, Jones & Poulter probably get extensions.

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  • GVGjr
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    Originally posted by azabob
    Rusty12 I'm all for cutting the list but realistically how are you replacing all those players?

    Why are we trading Garcia after signing him on a new multi year deal at the end of 2024? If either party was hinting at that, wouldn't that have happened already?
    In the last couple of years we have bucked the trend with drafting a couple of more players than we previously have and I wonder if it's been to get ahead of a more significant correction?
    Last year we also traded back into the draft to secure Davidson and L.Kennedy later in the order.
    We currently only have a 1st and 2nd rounder for next season so how many players could we drop off because our selections would be right at the back end of the draft.
    There will likely be a couple of retirements and the maximum number of changes we could really go with is about 7 spots but more likely 6.
    I can see some one year extensions to some of our players coming out of contract

    As I understand it, and thanks to Zero Hanger, these are the players coming out of contract this year:

    Oskar Baker- Likely delist
    Marcus Bontempelli - Long term deal
    Luke Cleary - Likely delist
    Nicholas Coffield - Likely delist
    Taylor Duryea - Likely retirement
    Jason Johannisen - Likely retirement
    Aurthur Jones - Possible delist or 1 year deal
    Liam Jones - 1 year deal
    Tom Liberatore - 1 year deal
    Caleb Poulter - Possible delist or 1 year deal
    Ed Richards - Long term deal
    Anthony Scott - Likely delist or 1 year deal
    Lachlan Smith - 2 year deal
    Adam Treloar - 1 year deal
    Laitham Vandermeer - 2 year deal
    We would most likely have to make a decision on either Crossley or Brew as well.

    There could be a case for the retention of of one or two out of A.Jones, Poulter or Scott perhaps even Coffield or Cleary.

    We certainly cannot sensibly delist 9 or 10 players so there will likely be some 1 year extensions.

    We will still have room for Butters.

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  • azabob
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    Rusty12 I'm all for cutting the list but realistically how are you replacing all those players?

    Why are we trading Garcia after signing him on a new multi year deal at the end of 2024? If either party was hinting at that, wouldn't that have happened already?

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  • jeemak
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    Originally posted by The Underdog

    Someone should start a thread where we track contracts.
    Too much work and nobody here could even do it for one year let alone put in the years of dedication to get it going long term to deliver contextual value over time. We'll just have to fumble along the way we are.

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