2025 List Management Thread

[GVGjr]

Just some quick comments.

Busslinger in contracted to the end of 2026. Keep.
Cleary and Coffields contracts expires at the end of the year. They would need a miracle to get an extension.
Khamis is contracted to the end of 2026. Keep
Johannisen and Duryea's contracts expire at the end of the season. They both should finish
Arthur and Liam Jones contracts expire at the end of the season. Both could get another season. Arty's got some work to do.
Baker and Poulters contracts expire at the end of the season. Baker probably won't get another one, Poulter might.
McNeil is contracted until the end of 2026 so is safe. Vandermeer to the end of the year but will get an extension.
O'Donnell is contracted to the end of 2027 so is very safe.
Scott would need to impress to go beyond this year
Gardner is contracted to the end of 2026 so is safe.

[Bornadog]

Need to merge this thread with the List management thread we already have.

[The Underdog]

Need to merge this thread with the List management thread we already have.

Someone should start a thread where we track contracts.

[jeemak]

Someone should start a thread where we track contracts.

Too much work and nobody here could even do it for one year let alone put in the years of dedication to get it going long term to deliver contextual value over time. We'll just have to fumble along the way we are.

[azabob]

Rusty12 I'm all for cutting the list but realistically how are you replacing all those players?

Why are we trading Garcia after signing him on a new multi year deal at the end of 2024? If either party was hinting at that, wouldn't that have happened already?

[GVGjr]

Rusty12 I'm all for cutting the list but realistically how are you replacing all those players?

Why are we trading Garcia after signing him on a new multi year deal at the end of 2024? If either party was hinting at that, wouldn't that have happened already?

In the last couple of years we have bucked the trend with drafting a couple of more players than we previously have and I wonder if it's been to get ahead of a more significant correction?
Last year we also traded back into the draft to secure Davidson and L.Kennedy later in the order.
We currently only have a 1st and 2nd rounder for next season so how many players could we drop off because our selections would be right at the back end of the draft.
There will likely be a couple of retirements and the maximum number of changes we could really go with is about 7 spots but more likely 6.
I can see some one year extensions to some of our players coming out of contract

As I understand it, and thanks to Zero Hanger, these are the players coming out of contract this year:

Oskar Baker- Likely delist
Marcus Bontempelli - Long term deal
Luke Cleary - Likely delist
Nicholas Coffield - Likely delist
Taylor Duryea - Likely retirement
Jason Johannisen - Likely retirement
Aurthur Jones - Possible delist or 1 year deal
Liam Jones - 1 year deal
Tom Liberatore - 1 year deal
Caleb Poulter - Possible delist or 1 year deal
Ed Richards - Long term deal
Anthony Scott - Likely delist or 1 year deal
Lachlan Smith - 2 year deal
Adam Treloar - 1 year deal
Laitham Vandermeer - 2 year deal
We would most likely have to make a decision on either Crossley or Brew as well.

There could be a case for the retention of of one or two out of A.Jones, Poulter or Scott perhaps even Coffield or Cleary.

We certainly cannot sensibly delist 9 or 10 players so there will likely be some 1 year extensions.

We will still have room for Butters.

[Mofra]

In the last couple of years we have bucked the trend with drafting a couple of more players than we previously have and I wonder if it's been to get ahead of a more significant correction?
Last year we also traded back into the draft to secure Davidson and L.Kennedy later in the order.
We currently only have a 1st and 2nd rounder for next season so how many players could we drop off because our selections would be right at the back end of the draft.
There will likely be a couple of retirements and the maximum number of changes we could really go with is about 7 spots but more likely 6.
I can see some one year extensions to some of our players coming out of contract

As I understand it, and thanks to Zero Hanger, these are the players coming out of contract this year:

Oskar Baker- Likely delist
Marcus Bontempelli - Long term deal
Luke Cleary - Likely delist
Nicholas Coffield - Likely delist
Taylor Duryea - Likely retirement
Jason Johannisen - Likely retirement
Aurthur Jones - Possible delist or 1 year deal
Liam Jones - 1 year deal
Tom Liberatore - 1 year deal
Caleb Poulter - Possible delist or 1 year deal
Ed Richards - Long term deal
Anthony Scott - Likely delist or 1 year deal
Lachlan Smith - 2 year deal
Adam Treloar - 1 year deal
Laitham Vandermeer - 2 year deal
We would most likely have to make a decision on either Crossley or Brew as well.

There could be a case for the retention of of one or two out of A.Jones, Poulter or Scott perhaps even Coffield or Cleary.

We certainly cannot sensibly delist 9 or 10 players so there will likely be some 1 year extensions.

We will still have room for Butters.

From that list that's Baker, Cleary, Coffield, Duryea, JJ & Scott gone - 6 players before we consider anyone else leaving or asking for trade.

That's enough list turnover for one year. Based on that, Jones & Poulter probably get extensions.

[Stevo]

This is a valuable list to work off an it explains why clubs including ours sometimes offer deals for players who might be more on the fringe of best 30.
You might think a player is not in serious contention for a senior spot but there is a limit to how many players can be moved on.
I can see why we will need to re-sign a small number of players that most of us would think are vulnerable.

[Stevo]

From that list that's Baker, Cleary, Coffield, Duryea, JJ & Scott gone - 6 players before we consider anyone else leaving or asking for trade.

That's enough list turnover for one year. Based on that, Jones & Poulter probably get extensions.

Now that it's been laid out like that I agree, clearing 6 spots would be ideal with a potential for 7 so there will be some deals.

[GVGjr]

From that list that's Baker, Cleary, Coffield, Duryea, JJ & Scott gone - 6 players before we consider anyone else leaving or asking for trade.

That's enough list turnover for one year. Based on that, Jones & Poulter probably get extensions.

That's how I see it and why I listed Poulter and Jones as possible delists.

[Axe Man]

As I understand it, and thanks to Zero Hanger, these are the players coming out of contract this year:

What time are we meeting at the nets?

[Scott2016]

The purpose of this is not to be toxic. However, lists are turned over every year.

The Dogs have a very thin tail.

The following list of players, I doubt there are more than 1 or 2 still on the list in 2 years.

TRELOR - 1 Year deals, Inside Mid or nothing. Maybe some Sub thrown in. Injury will determine if that is 1 or 3

BUSS - Not sure, beyond the current deal. Probably 50/50 if signed Vs cut or traded

BAKER - End of his current deal, cut.

DURYEA - Final Year, Jaques in that role, probably before 2025 is out.

COFFIELD- End of his current deal, cut.

O'DONNEL - Not sure, beyond the current deal. Probably 50/50 if signed Vs cut

LIBBA - 1 Year deals, Inside Mid or nothing. Maybe some Sub thrown in. Concussion or knee degeneration will impact how long.

HARMES - End of his current deal, cut.

VANDEMEER - 50/50 - End of his current deal, re-sign or cut.

KHAMIS - End of his current deal, cut.

POULTER - End of his current deal, cut.

SCOTT - End of his current deal, cut.

MCNEIL - 50/50 - End of his current deal, re-sign or cut.

A JONES - End of his current deal, cut.

CLEARY End of his current deal, cut.

GARICA -Traded

JJ - End of his current deal, cut.

SMITH - End of his current deal, cut.

GARDNER - End of his current deal, cut.

Im keeping Buss, Smith and Odonnell. Libba and Treloar on one year deals. The rest are list clogging. Minimum wages at best as no one else will pay overs to have them on their list. If someone sees value then do a trade but not worth paying overs to keep them at all.

[Scott2016]

In the last couple of years we have bucked the trend with drafting a couple of more players than we previously have and I wonder if it's been to get ahead of a more significant correction?
Last year we also traded back into the draft to secure Davidson and L.Kennedy later in the order.
We currently only have a 1st and 2nd rounder for next season so how many players could we drop off because our selections would be right at the back end of the draft.
There will likely be a couple of retirements and the maximum number of changes we could really go with is about 7 spots but more likely 6.
I can see some one year extensions to some of our players coming out of contract

As I understand it, and thanks to Zero Hanger, these are the players coming out of contract this year:

Oskar Baker- Likely delist
Marcus Bontempelli - Long term deal
Luke Cleary - Likely delist
Nicholas Coffield - Likely delist
Taylor Duryea - Likely retirement
Jason Johannisen - Likely retirement
Aurthur Jones - Possible delist or 1 year deal
Liam Jones - 1 year deal
Tom Liberatore - 1 year deal
Caleb Poulter - Possible delist or 1 year deal
Ed Richards - Long term deal
Anthony Scott - Likely delist or 1 year deal
Lachlan Smith - 2 year deal
Adam Treloar - 1 year deal
Laitham Vandermeer - 2 year deal
We would most likely have to make a decision on either Crossley or Brew as well.

There could be a case for the retention of of one or two out of A.Jones, Poulter or Scott perhaps even Coffield or Cleary.

We certainly cannot sensibly delist 9 or 10 players so there will likely be some 1 year extensions.

We will still have room for Butters.

Can you tell me another club that would take Vandermeer.? He hardly touches the ball, jelly arms in a tackle and makes mistakes when he actually gets the ball. First year kids are as good as him. Trade and see what is on offer.

[Before I Die]

Can you tell me another club that would take Vandermeer.? He hardly touches the ball, jelly arms in a tackle and makes mistakes when he actually gets the ball. First year kids are as good as him. Trade and see what is on offer.

The guy that played every game last year? Just maybe you are missing something in his game that the MC value.

[Scott2016]

I think he cost us 3 games where he went off with Hamstring tightness in the first qtr and then played next week. Dont count that playing every game.

[Grantysghost]

Can you tell me another club that would take Vandermeer.? He hardly touches the ball, jelly arms in a tackle and makes mistakes when he actually gets the ball. First year kids are as good as him. Trade and see what is on offer.

I get he's a whipping boy but he'd play for a lot of sides.
His pressure is fantastic.