Williamstown v Northern Bullants

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  • Cyberdoggie
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 2859

    #31
    Re: Williamstown v Northern Bullants

    Excellent write up Comrade.

    It looks like almost all of the guys exhibited their personal weaknesses on the same day!

    Nice to know that Everitt has got his run back. That will certainly get him back to the player we know.

    Your spot on with O'keefe's workrate. He's got Eagleton stamped all over him, except Eagle has actually been very good recently.

    Grant does look well below par in the fitness levels. Spends a lot of time walking around with those flip floppy legs of his.


    I think these next few weeks will really show us which of these players want to be on the list next year. With Willy losing a couple of games and a large number of players on the chopping block. We will see who rises to the occasion.

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    • Happy Days
      Hall of Fame
      • May 2008
      • 10024

      #32
      Re: Williamstown v Northern Bullants

      Great stuff Comrade.

      Dissapointing to hear about Grant and Cordy, but it seems like a dark day so I'll allow them a reprieve for now.

      Given both the form of Westhoff last night, and Port's smaller forward line, both Everitt and Callan are equal chances to come in. Which one, based on yesterday, has themselves slightly ahead?

      PS happy to see Dre as a nickname is in use by someone other than me. It was starting to get embarrassing.
      - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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      • comrade
        Hall of Fame
        • Jun 2008
        • 17841

        #33
        Re: Williamstown v Northern Bullants

        Originally posted by Cyberdoggie
        Excellent write up Comrade.

        It looks like almost all of the guys exhibited their personal weaknesses on the same day!

        Nice to know that Everitt has got his run back. That will certainly get him back to the player we know.

        Your spot on with O'keefe's workrate. He's got Eagleton stamped all over him, except Eagle has actually been very good recently.

        Grant does look well below par in the fitness levels. Spends a lot of time walking around with those flip floppy legs of his.


        I think these next few weeks will really show us which of these players want to be on the list next year. With Willy losing a couple of games and a large number of players on the chopping block. We will see who rises to the occasion.
        It's been a big start to the year and I think the mid season break can't come quicker for some of our young guys - Cordy and Grant in particular.

        There is a similarity between O'Keefe and Eagleton, but Guy is more of a finesse player, who uses vision and touch to get the ball to advantage, where as Eagle uses his pace and penetrating kick more. Both have had queries on their work rate, and both have had good seasons to date, but I'd hate for Guy to drop off because he'll be gone if he does.
        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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        • comrade
          Hall of Fame
          • Jun 2008
          • 17841

          #34
          Re: Williamstown v Northern Bullants

          Originally posted by Happy Days
          Great stuff Comrade.

          Dissapointing to hear about Grant and Cordy, but it seems like a dark day so I'll allow them a reprieve for now.

          Given both the form of Westhoff last night, and Port's smaller forward line, both Everitt and Callan are equal chances to come in. Which one, based on yesterday, has themselves slightly ahead?

          PS happy to see Dre as a nickname is in use by someone other than me. It was starting to get embarrassing.
          They call him Dre out on the field.

          Regarding Port, I'd have:

          Lake - Tredrea
          Morris - Motlop
          Hargrave - Ebert
          Harbrow - which ever small plays

          I'd have Everitt come in to replace Tiller to play on Westhoff.

          If Tommy is right to go I'd be tempted to put him in straight away to ensure he gets some match fitness before the break. VFL has a mid season break also, with Willy reserves playing next week and the seniors the week after. If Tommy doesn't play AFL next week, he probably won't play at Willy either as it means he won't be able to play Willy seniors the next week when the Bulldogs have a week off - he needs to play soon as he'll be coming from a way back in the second half of the season.
          Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #35
            Re: Williamstown v Northern Bullants

            [QUOTE=comrade;90006]Ok, here we go.


            O'Keefe: Was generally pretty clean but struggled to have much of an impact. Needs to improve his work rate to make sure he gets into better positions where he can hurt the opposition as a lot of his possessions where across half back.

            Excellent accurate report Comrade on all players except for Okeefe.

            His disposal was first rate & a class above most on the ground.Did he miss a target?
            His impact on the game was that he was involved in nearly every goal that Willy scored!

            From what i have seen he is a soft target when people talk about workrate.
            Reid who was very good but was far less effective than Okeefe with his disposals would not have won more of the ball yet his workrate is praised.
            Okeefe plays a very unselfish game & makes he teamates look good.An example is he
            regularly sets up Rose in the fwd line yet he would not ever receive the ball from Rose
            who is selfish & plays for himself.

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 43907

              #36
              Re: Williamstown v Northern Bullants

              Comrade I had O'Keefe as being directly involved in about 4 goals and at least 1 missed goal. I agree that he didn't have a great game but his effectiveness was pretty good.
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • azabob
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2008
                • 15125

                #37
                Re: Williamstown v Northern Bullants

                GVGjr and Comrade, both Roughead and Shaw were in the reserves best, did they share the ruckwork and rest forward? You don't often see two ruckman in the better players.
                More of an In Bruges guy?

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 43907

                  #38
                  Re: Williamstown v Northern Bullants

                  Originally posted by bobmurphy
                  GVGjr and Comrade, both Roughead and Shaw were in the reserves best, did they share the ruckwork and rest forward? You don't often see two ruckman in the better players.
                  Roughead spends more time forward than Shaw because he is be equipped to do that but Shaw has started to hold his marks a bit better and over the last couple of weeks has been getting a few shots at goal.
                  Williamstown have a 3rd tall in the reserves that relieves Shaw in the ruck.
                  Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                  • comrade
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 17841

                    #39
                    Re: Williamstown v Northern Bullants

                    Perhaps I was overly harsh regarding O'Keefe's work rate - he's probably a victim of his own very good performances earlier this season. My lasting perception was that he seemed to get some cheap ball behind the play, across half back. But as both PupDog and GVG have stated. his vision and skills were good, which did lead to Willy scores.

                    I was pretty nonplussed about the team's performance as a whole, which I let influence my review - apologies for that.
                    Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                    • Happy Days
                      Hall of Fame
                      • May 2008
                      • 10024

                      #40
                      Re: Williamstown v Northern Bullants

                      Originally posted by comrade
                      They call him Dre out on the field.
                      Damn.

                      Thought I was being original .
                      - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 43907

                        #41
                        Re: Williamstown v Northern Bullants

                        Originally posted by comrade
                        I was pretty nonplussed about the team's performance as a whole, which I let influence my review - apologies for that.
                        Poor game and very few I could rate however, Reid, O'Keefe and Everitt were the best of a bad bunch. I think your review is spot on but I just wanted to add that based on the teams poor performance I thought the standard of O'Keefe's disposals were worth a mention.
                        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #42
                          Re: Williamstown v Northern Bullants

                          Originally posted by comrade
                          Perhaps I was overly harsh regarding O'Keefe's work rate - he's probably a victim of his own very good performances earlier this season. My lasting perception was that he seemed to get some cheap ball behind the play, across half back. But as both PupDog and GVG have stated. his vision and skills were good, which did lead to Willy scores.

                          I was pretty nonplussed about the team's performance as a whole, which I let influence my review - apologies for that.
                          Cheers Comrade no need to apologise, its all a matter of opinions in the end.
                          Your reports are great.
                          Think Rocket would love Okeefe getting possies across half back especially when he
                          plays mainly hff it would suggest his workrate is getting better.
                          Some-one on this forum criticised him for getting 36 possies & not leaving the square
                          2 weeks ago???
                          Cant wait to see him play for the Dogs soon its going to be a much anticipated debut
                          for a exciting classy player.Maybe replace Stack ?

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #43
                            Re: Williamstown v Northern Bullants

                            Great read and good work on the reports

                            From a Bulldogs perspective its probably better to have a few close games and losses. This surely shows who is up to it and who is not. Good to hear Reid and O'Keefe are still in the hunt. Grant may need another Preseason by the sounds of it.

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #44
                              Re: Williamstown v Northern Bullants

                              Thanks for the reports! Sounds like an ordinary day for all bar a few exceptions.

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                              • Missing Dog
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8501

                                #45
                                Re: Williamstown v Northern Bullants

                                thanks for the reports guys. terrific as always.

                                I wonder why do you guys think Tiller and Williams are rated above Everitt?

                                The games "Dre" played for the Dogs I thought he was pretty good - great reader of play, good rebound but still seems to keep his opponent quiet. He seems to be better at reading the play than Tiller and less clangers. I guess Williams is a bigger-body for bigger opponents but Dre is way-ahead in footy smarts. Am I missing smething about Everitt thats keeping him out? Sounds like he wasnt great on the weekend but in general his Willi form seems good.

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