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  • GVGjr
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    • Nov 2006
    • 43924

    #46
    Re: Williamstown Round 14 vs Northern Bullants

    Minson - Battled hard all day and was a solid contributor in the ruck, up forward and around the ground. Kicked goals as well. The coaches should be happy with his game

    Roughead - Was very much a focal point up forward with his marking and was on the receiving end of some nice passes from Howard. Roughy was effective in the middle as well and had good game, clearly being one of the better contributors.

    Panos - I mentioned in an earlier post that Panos was an effective player as a key defender but never got a lot of the ball, well that held true for the balance of the game but he certainly did all the right things. He took a telling mark in the first minute or so of the last quarter when the Bullants were trying to capitalise on their great 3rd quarter
    and the ball was moved forward which resulted in a goal for the Seagulls. Liked his game today but you needed to watch it closely because the stats certainly won't tell the full story.

    Howard - A bit like Panos in that he won't give the statisticians writing cramps but what he did pretty much all day was classy and decisive. His running around the ground is a lot more fluent than early in the season and his delivery into the forward 50 was accurate.
    In the 3rd quarter he provided some strong tackling and physical contests so I rated him as one of the best on the day. Played wing and half back.

    Djerrkura - A mixed bag today from DJ. Ran hard, contested well and got a lot of the footy but amongst all that great play was far too many knee high handballs to team mates and some poor skill errors by foot. He certainly racked up the numbers though and it was an encouraging display.

    Addison - A good game today by Addison. Both Rocco and I have already mentioned his marking but it needs to be said again that he displayed strong and sure hands throughout the game and kept errors to a minimum. In contrast to Djerrkura, Addison's handballs were vastly more effective and helped his team mates keep moving the ball forward without trying to jump or bend down low for their handball receives.

    Veszpremi - Didn't really get into the game and was one of the more 'rotated players' today frequently changing on the IC bench. He is impressive at times and a hard at it type but just hasn't done enough to really put his name forward on today's effort. Great crumbers goal in the 1st quarter

    A few more players to come so I will write them up soon.
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    • chef
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2008
      • 14471

      #47
      Re: Williamstown Round 14 vs Northern Bullants

      Thanks Gary
      The curse is dead.

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      • Maddog37
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        • Nov 2010
        • 3132

        #48
        Re: Williamstown Round 14 vs Northern Bullants

        Thanks Gvg

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        • Rocco Jones
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jun 2008
          • 6920

          #49
          Re: Williamstown Round 14 vs Northern Bullants

          Agree with pretty much everything GVG has said, here are some added/extra points..

          Addison-GVG and I have kept on saying it but I was rapt with Dylan's hands overhead today. I would have him in up against Yarran next week and hopefully we have the confidence to kick to him when one on one.

          DJ-I loved his first half and liked his game overall but as GVG mentioned, he made a lot of errors by hand and footy which wasted his great work at times. Still a pleasing performance and should be thereabouts in team selection (would have DFA ahead of him in small defensive forwarrd role though)

          Roughead-Not too sure of what to make of his game when it comes to senior chances. I said earlier that he owes Howard a few beers tonight. He kcked goals but he was kicked to a lot and the passes were spot on. If he can play with the same confidence for the Dogs and his team mates have the same confidence to kick to him, I think he should come in.

          Howard-He doesn't do much but I love when he does. I think he is probably more suited to playing in a freer role on the wing. Not sure how he suits our team short term as we probably can only play him if it's in a small defender/HB role. If only he could get more of it, hopefully he increases his fitness over the next pre-season and just gut runs himself into getting it more.

          Tutt-The HF/wing version of Howard. Doesn't get enough of it but love it when he actually has it.

          Minson-Did really well in the ruck as expected. While he kicked goals, they were gimmes. Unfortunately we have two good ruckmen who really struggle elsewhere.

          Vez-I have heard posters say his tank is concerning. What concerns me most about him is his utter lack of explosive pace. He is about as fast when trying to break away as he is when he is just running along normally. He is as one paced as it gets IMO.

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 43924

            #50
            Re: Williamstown Round 14 vs Northern Bullants

            Hill - Started off well before probably fading a bit. He caught the eye early with a couple of fine marks in defence and his use of the ball was good but he didn't make that much of an impression in the 3rd and 4th quarters. Given his pace and the Blues small forward he might be in the selection mix this week. Played the game as a defender.

            Stack - Both Rocco and I have already mentioned that he was pitted against Ahmed Saad and for the better part of the day he certainly held him. One of the goals kicked against him was primarily due and an IC change leaving him trying to close the gap just a fraction too late but overall he did his job and wasn't afraid to back himself to run off his opponent.

            Tutt - Encouraging display with some nice long runs putting himself if terrific positions to receive the ball. Used the ball OK except for that set shot that for a guy of his kicking ability he should have nailed. (Yes I know I'm pedantic on conversions of set shots but as a youngster if he wants to put his hand up for a senior game then he needs to convert them)

            Schofield - He was OK all day but just didn't get a lot of the ball. I can recall on nice run out of defence but he probably did his best work at stoppages denying his opponent an easy possession.

            Libertore - He started off slowly but gave a typically Libba type performance with exceptionally quick hands and an uncanny ability to put his head over the football. Got better as the game wore on and he will put his hand up for a recall to the seniors soon enough. Played midfield throughout the game.

            Wallis - I think I have already vented some frustrations on Mitch's game today but I feel it needs to be said that his kicking skills aren't up to the required standard. Missed two more than gettable goals and floated a lot of other kicks during the game and his turnovers were very noticeable. Very good in the clinches today and like Libba he has quick hands.

            Lake - I was surprised to see him up forward and whilst he kicked 3 goals it wasn't a promotable performance. Held some nice marks and was often pitted against the impressive Matthew Watson.

            Sherman - Had a lousy game as far as I'm concerned. Messed up a lot of kicks early in the game and just didn't get into the flow.

            Next up is East Perth and I wonder how many out of Hahn, Hargrave, Cordy and Mulligan will come back into contention?
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            • Rocco Jones
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jun 2008
              • 6920

              #51
              Re: Williamstown Round 14 vs Northern Bullants

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              Schofield - He was OK all day but just didn't get a lot of the ball. I can recall on nice run out of defence but he probably did his best work at stoppages denying his opponent an easy possession.
              While Schofield didn't have a great game I think he had the type that we want from a small defenders for next week. I've mentioned this in the MC thread but Carlton's depth of forwards means we can't afford to play Gilbee IMO. If it comes to Gilbee, Howard and Schofield I find Schofield as the 3rd best player but I also think he fits the small defensive role we need best next week.
              Last edited by GVGjr; 03-07-2011, 07:20 PM. Reason: quote fixed

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              • Go_Dogs
                Hall of Fame
                • Jan 2007
                • 10076

                #52
                Re: Williamstown Round 14 vs Northern Bullants

                First off, thanks a lot of the updates and reports from Rocco and GVGjr.


                Originally posted by GVGjr
                Tutt - Encouraging display with some nice long runs putting himself if terrific positions to receive the ball. Used the ball OK except for that set shot that for a guy of his kicking ability he should have nailed. (Yes I know I'm pedantic on conversions of set shots but as a youngster if he wants to put his hand up for a senior game then he needs to convert them)

                Wallis - I think I have already vented some frustrations on Mitch's game today but I feel it needs to be said that his kicking skills aren't up to the required standard. Missed two more than gettable goals and floated a lot of other kicks during the game and his turnovers were very noticeable. Very good in the clinches today and like Libba he has quick hands.
                Tutt's ability to create an option to receive is very good. I think he's suited to the modern game where an ability to quickly find space and then use it well by foot is a great skill set to have. I was already very eager for him to get a game soon, and after reading your report more so. Shame he missed the set shot. Fatigue, laziness or lack of concentration/poor execution? His kicking action seems fairly solid (not that I've seen him take a bunch of set shots).


                Wallis' kicking is a concern, but hopefully something that can continue to improve. It seems to be going backwards at the moment though.

                I wonder if he could play as an inside, lock down player? He's another one who is good at getting to space to receive when we have possession, but if he can't reliably move the ball by foot (and move it quickly) he's going to need to add some other strings to his bow rather than being a pure accumulator.
                Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 43924

                  #53
                  Re: Williamstown Round 14 vs Northern Bullants

                  Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                  While Schofield didn't have a great game I think he had the type that we want from a small defenders for next week. I've mentioned this in the MC thread but Carlton's depth of forwards means we can't afford to play Gilbee IMO. If it comes to Gilbee, Howard and Schofield I find Schofield as the 3rd best player but I also think he fits the small defensive role we need best next week.

                  Don't disagree. Schofields promotion however, would be more likely linked to the match-ups we need to make and past credits he has racked up rather than necessarily being the form displayed today.
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                  • Rocco Jones
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 6920

                    #54
                    Re: Williamstown Round 14 vs Northern Bullants

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    Don't disagree. Schofields promotion however, would be more likely linked to the match-ups we need to make and past credits he has racked up rather than necessarily being the form displayed today.
                    That's true. My pre-conceived thoughts about him and next week going in to watch the game today prove that! I think he would have needed to concede a bag for me not to post those thoughts.

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 43924

                      #55
                      Re: Williamstown Round 14 vs Northern Bullants

                      Originally posted by Griffen#16
                      Tutt's ability to create an option to receive is very good. I think he's suited to the modern game where an ability to quickly find space and then use it well by foot is a great skill set to have. I was already very eager for him to get a game soon, and after reading your report more so. Shame he missed the set shot. Fatigue, laziness or lack of concentration/poor execution? His kicking action seems fairly solid (not that I've seen him take a bunch of set shots).
                      It's a very good point you make and it's a skill within itself to be able to work hard and get into positions by yourself.
                      Regarding the set shot, It just seemed to be that he read it wrong. He was kicking into a decent breeze but just a fraction passed 30 meters out from goal. He made the distance OK and maybe it was the pressure but my gut feel is that we don't practice this skill enough.
                      The Bullants had a run on for quite a while and it would shut the door right on them. Good players kick them.

                      Originally posted by Griffen#16

                      Wallis' kicking is a concern, but hopefully something that can continue to improve. It seems to be going backwards at the moment though.

                      I wonder if he could play as an inside, lock down player? He's another one who is good at getting to space to receive when we have possession, but if he can't reliably move the ball by foot (and move it quickly) he's going to need to add some other strings to his bow rather than being a pure accumulator.
                      Hard one to answer. He's very footy smart and can get enough of it but it just didn't click for him today. Just seems to stab at the ball rather than to kick right through it.
                      If he can improve his kicking he could be a very good player.
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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 43924

                        #56
                        Re: Williamstown Round 14 vs Northern Bullants

                        Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                        Roughead-Not too sure of what to make of his game when it comes to senior chances. I said earlier that he owes Howard a few beers tonight. He kcked goals but he was kicked to a lot and the passes were spot on. If he can play with the same confidence for the Dogs and his team mates have the same confidence to kick to him, I think he should come in.
                        I think you have summed him up well on today's effort.
                        You'd have him ahead of Minson for a recall wouldn't you?
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                        • Rocco Jones
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 6920

                          #57
                          Re: Williamstown Round 14 vs Northern Bullants

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          I think you have summed him up well on today's effort.
                          You'd have him ahead of Minson for a recall wouldn't you?
                          I think Minson is a better overall player ATM but Roughead suits the 2nd ruck role more IMO.

                          Minson certainly had a good game but it was pretty much all due to his ruck work. He did nothing to impress me as a forward and with Hudson in the side, he has to spend most of his TOG up forward.

                          How about yourself?

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 43924

                            #58
                            Re: Williamstown Round 14 vs Northern Bullants

                            Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                            I think Minson is a better overall player ATM but Roughead suits the 2nd ruck role more IMO.
                            That's the way I see it as well. It's going to be hard to get both Hudson and Minson into the line-up together.
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                            • Hotdog60
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 5775

                              #59
                              Re: Williamstown Round 14 vs Northern Bullants

                              Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                              I think Minson is a better overall player ATM but Roughead suits the 2nd ruck role more IMO.

                              Minson certainly had a good game but it was pretty much all due to his ruck work. He did nothing to impress me as a forward and with Hudson in the side, he has to spend most of his TOG up forward.

                              How about yourself?
                              Slightly off topic, but on the radio the commentators were saying that Will is being eyed off by GWS. I hope not as I think he will be our No 1 ruck in the very near future with support from Roughy and Cordy.
                              Don't piss off old people
                              The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                              • Rocco Jones
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 6920

                                #60
                                Re: Williamstown Round 14 vs Northern Bullants

                                Originally posted by Hotdog60
                                Slightly off topic, but on the radio the commentators were saying that Will is being eyed off by GWS. I hope not as I think he will be our No 1 ruck in the very near future with support from Roughy and Cordy.
                                Assuming both Roughy and Cordy are good enough to make it at AFL level, I don't think they will need ruck support. Essendon have showed why you can't play 3 rucks no matter how good they way. It's not being worth the sum of your parts type of thing.

                                Cordy + Roughy have the right/potential tools to be an extremely valuable ruck combo. With Hudson looking gone I would probably still want Will there as insurance/physical back up for the young pair next season. Relying on such a young and inexperiend young combo would be very risky.

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