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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 67705

    #1

    No VFL role for McCartney

    By Jason Phelan


    WESTERN Bulldogs players are likely to make up more than half of Williamstown's grand final team, but new Dogs' coach Brendan McCartney won't have a hands-on role in the Seagulls' bid for the 2011 VFL premiership.

    McCartney was appointed to the role on Monday and is happy to let Peter German, the coach of the club's VFL affiliate, call the shots in Sunday's grand final clash against Port Melbourne at Etihad Stadium.

    "I had coffee with [Brendan] yesterday and that was about it. He's still trying to settle in and find his feet," German said on Wednesday.

    "He's just been very supportive and wished me good luck on the weekend. That's pretty much what we spoke about."

    Although he won't be directly involved in the match, McCartney will certainly be a keen observer - a fact not lost on the players.

    "I think it's definitely in my mind and probably a few other [guys] as well," second-year Bulldog Christian Howard said.

    "You always want to impress the new coach and get off on the right foot. It's a clean start … but I think he's just hoping that we win this weekend and he's been really supportive.

    "We're looking forward to showing him what we can do."

    Fourteen Bulldogs lined up for the Seagulls' preliminary final win against Werribee with a similar or higher number set to face Port Melbourne.

    Borough coach Gary Ayres doesn't have that luxury as the coach of a stand-alone VFL club, but it hasn't stopped him guiding his team into the premiership decider without suffering a single loss in 20 games.

    "These guys are heroes in my mind because of what they've been able to do," Ayres said of his team's undefeated season.

    "They should be applauded in being able to keep themselves up against 15 to 19 AFL-listed players on a regular basis.

    "There's always this talk about fitness and infrastructure and all that, but I just don't think the Port Melbourne players get the kudos [they deserve] from outside and I think it's about time that changed.

    "The club believes in the [stand-alone] model … [but] it will all be tested again by very good opposition on Sunday."

    The VFL grand final will get underway at 2:15pm, shortly after the conclusion of the TAC Cup grand final between Oakleigh and Sandringham, which kicks off the day at 10:30am.

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  • westdog54
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 6686

    #2
    Re: No VFL role for McCartney

    Borough coach Gary Ayres doesn't have that luxury as the coach of a stand-alone VFL club, but it hasn't stopped him guiding his team into the premiership decider without suffering a single loss in 20 games.

    "These guys are heroes in my mind because of what they've been able to do," Ayres said of his team's undefeated season.

    "They should be applauded in being able to keep themselves up against 15 to 19 AFL-listed players on a regular basis.

    "There's always this talk about fitness and infrastructure and all that, but I just don't think the Port Melbourne players get the kudos [they deserve] from outside and I think it's about time that changed.
    This.

    Its a sign of the structure that Port Melbourne have that they are as competitive as they are. You look at Frankston, the only other Stand-alone team in the VFL and how they struggle.

    Its a tribute to Ayres and everyone at the club.

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    • azabob
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2008
      • 15484

      #3
      Re: No VFL role for McCartney

      Originally posted by westdog54
      This.

      Its a sign of the structure that Port Melbourne have that they are as competitive as they are. You look at Frankston, the only other Stand-alone team in the VFL and how they struggle.

      Its a tribute to Ayres and everyone at the club.
      Doesn't it go a bit deeper than that? How do their bank balances compare?
      More of an In Bruges guy?

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      • Bulldog Revolution
        Coaching Staff
        • Dec 2006
        • 3933

        #4
        Re: No VFL role for McCartney

        Originally posted by azabob
        Doesn't it go a bit deeper than that? How do their bank balances compare?
        Im inclined to think that Ayres and the Port club deserve a fair bit of credit for it

        I don't know how much money they have but I give most of the credit to Ayres and co. If they weren't playing us I'd be right behind them.

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        • Ghost Dog
          WOOF Member
          • May 2010
          • 9404

          #5
          Re: No VFL role for McCartney

          The idealist in me hopes the stand alone sides kick along
          Ayers name was not really touted in the AFL. Reason?
          He must be pretty cluey to match it for 20 wins against clubs with AFL troops.
          You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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          • Greystache
            WOOF Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 9775

            #6
            Re: No VFL role for McCartney

            Originally posted by Ghost Dog
            The idealist in me hopes the stand alone sides kick along
            Ayers name was not really touted in the AFL. Reason?
            He must be pretty cluey to match it for 20 wins against clubs with AFL troops.
            He did coach 10 years and 220 games at AFL level, history tells us if you haven't won a flag within that time period then you are unlikely to. A winning record of 53% points to a reasonable coach, but his only GF appearance was in his first season.
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            • Sockeye Salmon
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 6365

              #7
              Re: No VFL role for McCartney

              Originally posted by Bulldog Revolution
              Im inclined to think that Ayres and the Port club deserve a fair bit of credit for it

              I don't know how much money they have but I give most of the credit to Ayres and co. If they weren't playing us I'd be right behind them.
              They have just about as many players with AFL experience as any other VFL side but theirs are older and more physically developed.

              Frankston could only dream of being able to recruit with a chequebook like that

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              • Maddog37
                WOOF Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 3132

                #8
                Re: No VFL role for McCartney

                Where does their money come from?
                Last edited by Maddog37; 22-09-2011, 09:36 AM. Reason: spelling

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #9
                  Re: No VFL role for McCartney

                  Originally posted by Maddog37
                  Where does their money come from?
                  TEAC? Sponsor the ground and factory is close by.

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                  • Remi Moses
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 14785

                    #10
                    Re: No VFL role for McCartney

                    Port get a nice sponsorship from the Rex Hotel and poker machines, think local business community kick in as well. Agree Frankston haven't got the dosh Port have,however It can't be denied they've done a great job being undefeated .

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                    • JohnGentStand
                      WOOF Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 290

                      #11
                      Re: No VFL role for McCartney

                      really hoping the new coach gives Minson a go.
                      I'm paying money, the girl's happy, she's got no money, I got my rocks off, how good is this...

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                      • Bulldog Revolution
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 3933

                        #12
                        Re: No VFL role for McCartney

                        Originally posted by Remi Moses
                        Port get a nice sponsorship from the Rex Hotel and poker machines, think local business community kick in as well. Agree Frankston haven't got the dosh Port have,however It can't be denied they've done a great job being undefeated .
                        And few of the AFL experienced players on their list were high draft picks, stars, or had long AFL careers.

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                        • westdog54
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 6686

                          #13
                          Re: No VFL role for McCartney

                          Originally posted by Bulldog Revolution
                          And few of the AFL experienced players on their list were high draft picks, stars, or had long AFL careers.
                          Noticed a few weeks ago when I was looking at their list just how many ex AFL players they have. Adam Bentick, Cory McGrath, Wayde Skipper, Mal Lynch, Fabian Deluca, David Fanning and others.

                          I'm glad to see Lynch doing well at Port and enjoying his footy.

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