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  • Remi Moses
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 14785

    #46
    Re: Dogs Meeting McCartin

    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
    There is nothing more certain than Zaine coming to us. He's a gem and at 42 we would be laughing, at 24 it's pricey, but I like him more and more every time I see him, and my sources in the Falcons Squad think it too. Zaine's grown up around the squads with Macca and Macca's brother around the place giving assistance. Mark Zaine down as a dead certainty as a WBFC recruit.
    Knightmare on BF doesn't rate him that highly. Seems to be some love for Mckenzie on there

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      #47
      Re: Dogs Meeting McCartin

      Originally posted by Remi Moses
      Knightmare on BF doesn't rate him that highly. Seems to be some love for Mckenzie on there
      I'm not sure who he/she is, but theyre getting multiple mentions so I will take it they're a reliable judge. That said, he/she and I must be watching different Zaine Cordy's playing this year. Mark Zaine down, it's whether it's 25 or 45.
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • boydogs
        WOOF Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 5844

        #48
        Re: Dogs Meeting McCartin

        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
        I'm not sure who he/she is, but theyre getting multiple mentions so I will take it they're a reliable judge. That said, he/she and I must be watching different Zaine Cordy's playing this year. Mark Zaine down, it's whether it's 25 or 45.
        Knightmare is the most respected draft watcher on BF. His phantom draft picks are the fallback if someone doesn't pick in time in the BF phantom draft

        He had this to say re. Zaine Cordy on Wednesday & hasn't included him in his top 55 picks

        Cordy could be worth picking but I'd say like Foster more as a rookie for me.

        He reminds me a little of Tyson Goldsack as a defender. Has key position height but not key position size. Gives good effort and has a crack but probably more a 3rd tall as a negating type at the next level.
        If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

        Formerly gogriff

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34289

          #49
          Re: Dogs Meeting McCartin

          Originally posted by gogriff
          Knightmare is the most respected draft watcher on BF. His phantom draft picks are the fallback if someone doesn't pick in time in the BF phantom draft

          He had this to say re. Zaine Cordy on Wednesday & hasn't included him in his top 55 picks
          Thanks GG. I actually think Zaine could play more like Bobby, he actually reminds me a bit of him. I agree he's tall and slender, but he can run, shimmy and by my stats very good by hand and foot. I should stop talking him up. Yep, a rookie at best. As for Fossie, he's leading the TAC goal kicking and someone like Carlton could force a low pick, but as a rookie I'd be stoked too.
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • Jasper
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2009
            • 1265

            #50
            Re: Dogs Meeting McCartin

            As nice as it would be to get McCartin, isn't he "undersized" height wise by today's standards of what people think a KPF should be? His stats are basically the same as Stringer. 192cm and 92kg, vs 192cm and 91kg for Stringer. I've noticed that many people on this board say that Stringer isn't a KPF due to his size, yet if you look at some of the current key forwards in the competition their height is basically the same as Stringers. Pavlich (192), Roughead (193), and the cry baby we are playing this week (193).

            I know the other arguement regarding Stringer is that he doesn't play as a FF, yet he has been playing there a lot since coming back into the side, and although he does tend to get more goals from crumbing, he has shown that he has good hands and can mark on the lead. He's also good body to body. He does need to work on his set shots though, which seem to have gone down since last year when his kicking looked really good.

            I'm not saying we shouldn't try go for a KPF like a McCartin in the draft or through trading, I just don't see why Stringer can't become the KPF we need. On a different note, i think our KPD are more of an issue atm than our forwards.
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            • Dry Rot
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 6447

              #51
              Re: Dogs Meeting McCartin

              Originally posted by Remi Moses
              Knightmare on BF doesn't rate him that highly. Seems to be some love for Mckenzie on there
              Says McKenzie is showing rapid improvement through the season.
              The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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              • Twodogs
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 27656

                #52
                Re: Dogs Meeting McCartin

                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                Thanks GG. I actually think Zaine could play more like Bobby, he actually reminds me a bit of him. I agree he's tall and slender, but he can run, shimmy and by my stats very good by hand and foot. I should stop talking him up. Yep, a rookie at best. As for Fossie, he's leading the TAC goal kicking and someone like Carlton could force a low pick, but as a rookie I'd be stoked too.

                Foster is a year older than the other kids isn't he? He was allowed another year at TAC cup level
                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                • Remi Moses
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 14785

                  #53
                  Re: Dogs Meeting McCartin

                  Originally posted by Dry Rot
                  Says McKenzie is showing rapid improvement through the season.
                  Interested to see Mccartin is 193 cm.
                  Big enough for the main forward at AFL level?
                  Be interested in MJP's thoughts on Mckenzie

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                  • always right
                    WOOF Member
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 4189

                    #54
                    Re: Dogs Meeting McCartin

                    Originally posted by gogriff
                    Don't think that's the reality. Only a few clubs meet with each draftee - watch the Jack Billings / Luke McDonald / Ben Lennon doco for instance
                    Dalrymple recently stated that he had around 60 interviews to conduct with draftees.....and their families.
                    I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66826

                      #55
                      Re: Dogs Meeting McCartin

                      Originally posted by Remi Moses
                      Interested to see Mccartin is 193 cm.
                      Big enough for the main forward at AFL level?
                      Be interested in MJP's thoughts on Mckenzie
                      Could also grow a few cm in te next year or so.
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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44700

                        #56
                        Re: Dogs Meeting McCartin

                        Originally posted by Remi Moses
                        Interested to see Mccartin is 193 cm.
                        Big enough for the main forward at AFL level?
                        He is certainly big enough to be a key forward at the AFL level. Good leap and mobile. The question is more around how he will go when the ball hits the ground. I'm guessing here but he would be either 1st or 2nd on our wish list.
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                        • Scorlibo
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 3087

                          #57
                          Re: Dogs Meeting McCartin

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          He is certainly big enough to be a key forward at the AFL level. Good leap and mobile. The question is more around how he will go when the ball hits the ground. I'm guessing here but he would be either 1st or 2nd on our wish list.
                          I suppose the question is more: if McCartin is big enough, why isn't Stringer? The guy who has kicked 16 goals in our last 6 games playing from full-forward. Stringer's presence reminds me of Carey.
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                          • soupman
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 5113

                            #58
                            Re: Dogs Meeting McCartin

                            Originally posted by Scorlibo
                            I suppose the question is more: if McCartin is big enough, why isn't Stringer? The guy who has kicked 16 goals in our last 6 games playing from full-forward. Stringer's presence reminds me of Carey.
                            I think the difference is that people want the big guy that draws mutlipe defenders to him and can clunk big pack marks. That guy who is your last resort as you bomb the ball into the forward 50 late in the match just hoping he takes the mark to win the match.

                            Stringer is more the Brad Johnson type, a threat both on the ground and aerially but not a pack marker.
                            I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                            • lemmon
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 6528

                              #59
                              Re: Dogs Meeting McCartin

                              Originally posted by Scorlibo
                              I suppose the question is more: if McCartin is big enough, why isn't Stringer? The guy who has kicked 16 goals in our last 6 games playing from full-forward. Stringer's presence reminds me of Carey.
                              In that time he's taken a grand total of 3 contested marks and 14 marks overall, that's a weeks work for Carey. He's a beauty at ground level but I want a full forward to clunk the footy and split packs. If we were taking a full forward on purely how many goals they kick Lindsay Thomas would be high on the list. I'm a Jake fan and he has enough quality to be good anywhere but he isn't the missing piece to our forward line.

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                              • The Bulldogs Bite
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 11269

                                #60
                                Re: Dogs Meeting McCartin

                                Originally posted by lemmon
                                In that time he's taken a grand total of 3 contested marks and 14 marks overall, that's a weeks work for Carey. He's a beauty at ground level but I want a full forward to clunk the footy and split packs. If we were taking a full forward on purely how many goals they kick Lindsay Thomas would be high on the list. I'm a Jake fan and he has enough quality to be good anywhere but he isn't the missing piece to our forward line.
                                Agree with this.

                                If we can find the KPF we need, it'll be scary how dangerous the likes of Stringer will become.
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