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19-04-2019, 08:10 PM
#151
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
Originally Posted by
comrade
How does Hayes get a gig before Lipinski, who has literally dominated every game he's played this year?
listen to Gia's wrap up of the VFL and I think the answer is there
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19-04-2019, 08:32 PM
#152
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
Originally Posted by
bornadog
listen to Gia's wrap up of the VFL and I think the answer is there
Can you give me the cliff notes?
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19-04-2019, 08:46 PM
#153
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
Originally Posted by
comrade
Can you give me the cliff notes?
Listen here
https://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/v...port-round-two
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19-04-2019, 08:50 PM
#154
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
I am absolutely no clearer on what you consider the answer to be. I do know that Gia likes to use the phrase 'had an impact' even more than McCartney liked 'cracking in' and Bell likes to take a 'conservative approach' and 'tick all the boxes'
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19-04-2019, 09:09 PM
#155
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
Originally Posted by
hujsh
I am absolutely no clearer on what you consider the answer to be. I do know that Gia likes to use the phrase 'had an impact' even more than McCartney liked 'cracking in' and Bell likes to take a 'conservative approach' and 'tick all the boxes'
Ok he says Lippa has been playing as an inside mid in VFL games whereas at AFL level, it has been mainly on the wing. What I read into it was Gia wants him to work more on his inside skills and isn't ready yet to take that role in the AFL. At AFL he is competing against other wingers.
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19-04-2019, 09:24 PM
#156
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Ok he says Lippa has been playing as an inside mid in VFL games whereas at AFL level, it has been mainly on the wing. What I read into it was Gia wants him to work more on his inside skills and isn't ready yet to take that role in the AFL. At AFL he is competing against other wingers.
So we’re doing a Lukas Webb to him - guessing we won’t see Lippa until the 2nd half of the year
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19-04-2019, 09:52 PM
#157
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
Originally Posted by
The Pie Man
So we’re doing a Lukas Webb to him - guessing we won’t see Lippa until the 2nd half of the year
Then dropping him after a few quiet games. Why would we want a high half forward, whose got good entry skills and an accurate goal kick usually? Or a good HBF with a booming left foot like Webby. We need more inside mids to share the forward 50 with Dunkley.
It makes sense from a consistency standpoint. We've Tom Boyd'd Schache whose had a good game and a few quiet games trying to juggle being a KPF and ruck, despite never rucking, so he's dropped. Queue the 'fans' saying if he can't kick goals and can't ruck all in the same game then why did we trade for him and bother having him around.
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19-04-2019, 10:53 PM
#158
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
BT last week he was just terrible. He didn't make a contest anywhere he went and we probably would have been better off sitting him and playing one down. I agree, he's a forward not a ruck/forward and another player forced to play out of position due to our inability to manage a list. Our MC/coach get too cute at the selection table and now we're set to run out with a kid who has to ruck 98% of the game and another kid to hold down a KPF role all by himself with no help. We need to play the long game with these kids. They're going to be good, I haven't seen a player like Naughton since Chris Grant. In no way shape or form should we be burning them out.
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19-04-2019, 11:49 PM
#159
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
Originally Posted by
G-Mo77
BT last week he was just terrible. He didn't make a contest anywhere he went and we probably would have been better off sitting him and playing one down. I agree, he's a forward not a ruck/forward and another player forced to play out of position due to our inability to manage a list. Our MC/coach get too cute at the selection table and now we're set to run out with a kid who has to ruck 98% of the game and another kid to hold down a KPF role all by himself with no help. We need to play the long game with these kids. They're going to be good, I haven't seen a player like Naughton since Chris Grant. In no way shape or form should we be burning them out.
Yep. Our talent profile is building really well. The development decisions and forcing them into foreign roles might not be the best way to get the best out of them. The selections and rationales this week in particular are just weird. Bevo & the MC had a good run 15/16. But since, their credits in the bank are used up. Like you I hope we don’t burn them up, or stuff up their development. I can’t say my confidence is sky high that neither will eventuate.
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20-04-2019, 12:35 AM
#160
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
Who is the alternative to relieve in the ruck if not Schache in those games BT?
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20-04-2019, 12:59 AM
#161
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
Originally Posted by
bulldogtragic
Yep. Our talent profile is building really well. The development decisions and forcing them into foreign roles might not be the best way to get the best out of them. The selections and rationales this week in particular are just weird. Bevo & the MC had a good run 15/16. But since, their credits in the bank are used up. Like you I hope we don’t burn them up, or stuff up their development. I can’t say my confidence is sky high that neither will eventuate.
Who have we burnt?
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20-04-2019, 07:52 AM
#162
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
Originally Posted by
bornadog
Who have we burnt?
No one yet. English will be the first if we continue this way.
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20-04-2019, 09:23 AM
#163
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
Originally Posted by
G-Mo77
No one yet. English will be the first if we continue this way.
We burned him last year when he was showing signs of fatigue but we kept playing him a couple of games more which resulted in a decent spell on the sidelines while injured.
I think he would benefit with some support this week after copping a hiding last week but now he will be backed up by Dunkley and will probably need push himself a bit further. I hope Boyd gets fit enough soon so Englush has some support
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20-04-2019, 10:25 AM
#164
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
Yep we overloaded English last yr and he copped a bone stress injury (as did two.other players).
We almost deserve to lose against Carlton with the lack of respect being shown to tbeir tall players pretty much playing just the 3 talls with about 100 games between them. All while Trengove chops it up at VFL level (and did well in the ruck in the ones at the end of last yr).
Meanwhile in Hayes, we haved added another ball butcher to a team already loaded to the gills with suspect users. (Bont, Dunkley and Gowers can't kick at goal while JJ, Wallis, Dunkley and Hunter all struggle with their field kicking).
Carlton are that bad we may get away with it but then we've already lost to GCS.
Just hope English doesn't get injured (again).
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20-04-2019, 10:31 AM
#165
Re: Always Right Match Committee Thread Round 5, Vs Carlton
I Love Bevo but he is so frustrating at the selection table. Are we trying to get a spike off two debutants to avoid complacency against Carlton?