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  • SquirrelGrip
    Senior Player
    • Oct 2007
    • 1455

    Re: Giving up footy, thus this forum

    Originally posted by EasternWest
    Especially if it disappeared before we ever got a contract thread.
    The so-called "Contract Thread" reminds me of this story:

    A philosophy professor walks in to give his class their final exam.
    Placing his chair on his desk the professor instructs the class, "Using every applicable thing you've learned in this course, prove to me that this chair DOES NOT EXIST."

    So, pencils are writing and erasers are erasing, students are preparing to embark on novels proving that this chair doesn't exist, except for one student. He spends thirty seconds writing his answer, then turns his final in to the astonishment of his peers.

    Time goes by, and the day comes when all the students get their final grades...and to the amazement of the class, the student who wrote for thirty seconds gets the highest grade in the class.

    His answer to the question: "What chair?
    "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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    • Grantysghost
      Bouncing Strong
      • Apr 2010
      • 18737

      Re: Giving up footy, thus this forum

      Originally posted by EasternWest
      Well DOTW this just ripped my guts out in the best way.

      I'm a terrible footy pundit and don't offer much but stupid jokes but I adore this site and the people on it, even SSGG. It's literally the only football related site I use. I would be gutted if it was gone.

      Especially if it disappeared before we ever got a contract thread.
      Maybe a mutiny is in order? The power's gone to his head!



      Of course I kid and fully support G.
      BT COME BACK!​

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 65611

        Re: Giving up footy, thus this forum

        it would be areal shame if the site closed down, there are many great contributors, some great banter, some funny jokes and all Bulldog talk without having a go at each other.

        What I don't understand is the logistics behind the site. Is there a money issue to run it, is it the time it takes, what is the concern if there aren't too many members, contributors?

        We await to see GVGjr's decision.
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • The Doctor
          Coaching Staff
          • Jan 2007
          • 3701

          Re: Giving up footy, thus this forum

          GVG, perhaps we are bound to be a small close knit community that welcomes new people when they stumble upon us. It's obvious this forum means a lot to many who post here.

          Even if we can't attract larger numbers of contributors, what will it take to keep the forum going? PM if necessary.
          Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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          • The bulldog tragician
            Senior Player
            • Apr 2013
            • 1954

            Re: Giving up footy, thus this forum

            Originally posted by bornadog
            it would be areal shame if the site closed down, there are many great contributors, some great banter, some funny jokes and all Bulldog talk without having a go at each other.

            What I don't understand is the logistics behind the site. Is there a money issue to run it, is it the time it takes, what is the concern if there aren't too many members, contributors?

            We await to see GVGjr's decision.
            I also like that it is kind of boutique. I don’t think there is a lack of interaction or differing views because of the relatively small size. But I also appreciate it can be kind of disheartening too and not reward for effort, perhaps? Will always appreciate though, what a community it has provided, after a bad loss it’s cathartic, the views on what we could do better are always thoughtful and insightful …even though I’ve never understood a single bit of BT’s points and draft analysis I particularly remember what a refuge this place was in Shocktober. Thank you GVG however you decide.
            [url]www.bulldogtragician.com[/url] A blog about being a lifelong fan of the Dogs and our quixotic attempt to replicate 1954. AND WE DID
            Author of [URL="http://www.blackincbooks.com.au/books/mighty-west"]"The Mighty West: the Bulldogs journey from daydream believers to premiership heroes[/URL]"
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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 43924

              Re: Giving up footy, thus this forum

              Originally posted by The Doctor
              GVG, perhaps we are bound to be a small close knit community that welcomes new people when they stumble upon us. It's obvious this forum means a lot to many who post here.

              Even if we can't attract larger numbers of contributors, what will it take to keep the forum going? PM if necessary.
              Thanks Doc, I've been more than comfortable with WOOF being more of a niche Bulldogs focus forum than a high volume one for a long while now. That's not what's behind why I'm having a rethink.
              There were times through the season where all we could muster for the WOOF player awards were 9 or 10 members willing to cast their votes.
              When a 100 members are logging on most days during the season and only 10% of them can bring themselves to contribute to a traditional thread you can see the motivation isn't where it once was.
              That and reaching out to 20 of the quieter members where some didn't respond and those that did were pretty steadfast in that they just want to be readers not contributors to the forum going forward so doesn't doesn't paint a positive future.

              I still really enjoy talking all things footy with Bulldogs supporters so it's not an easy decision but I'd also don't want to see a prolonged deterioration of participation levels that gets to the point where our best contributors are only logging on once a day because there isn't much to read. My gut feel tells me that most members have moved on from discussions and only want to read snippets of information on easier social platforms than having to put in a bit of effort into a discussion.

              I've got some other options to consider and all is not lost.
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • Grantysghost
                Bouncing Strong
                • Apr 2010
                • 18737

                Re: Giving up footy, thus this forum

                I've got some other options to consider and all is not lost.
                BT COME BACK!​

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                • bulldogsthru&thru
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • May 2011
                  • 7651

                  Re: Giving up footy, thus this forum

                  To my untrained eye the participation seems similar to when I joined but that's purely gut feel.

                  I don't participate in the voting as it's not really my thing but also I don't see as many games as I used to. I will certainly make an effort to contribute if it helps though.

                  The current participation and contribution level is still enough for my liking. I do understand the point of view of not wanting to see it deteriorate though.

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                  • azabob
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 15126

                    Re: Giving up footy, thus this forum

                    The best part of woof is you don?t get all the other noise and general crap that twitter (& other social media) manages to generate.

                    I for one hope woof continues in some form that is accessible. I?m not apart of non woof member activities as I don?t know anyone personally and that?s ok, but damn no ?woofer? as my better half coined it will leave a hole in my day to day life.

                    TCD told me when I first joined woof evolved out of the big footy revolt (I guess like Kerry Parker World Series cricket), I?d never logged onto bigfooty so I didn?t quite understand what he meant, until I did.

                    Shit, it isn?t even just the footy talk, it?s finding new tv shows, new music, the banter.

                    GVGjr what ever you decide make sure it is the right decision for you and whatever it is I?m sure no one will say NETS.
                    More of an In Bruges guy?

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                    • whythelongface
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 4263

                      Re: Giving up footy, thus this forum

                      What a great site this is and it is a source of all information for me, especially as I don’t live in an AFL dominated state. I love reading all the posts and banter and the source of knowledge of our posters is incredible. Would love to see the site continue for many a year and thank you, Gary, for all that you have done to keep the site going for all these years. Hopefully it does continue.

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 43924

                        Re: Giving up footy, thus this forum

                        Many thanks to all WOOF members who have taken the time to either ready or respond to my post about the forum's future.
                        In particular I want to call out the contributions from the likes of YHF, BT, MJP, GG, Soup, Eastdog, Hotdog60, Angelo, Aza, Topdog, Boots, MrMahatma, Rocco, EW, BAD, The Doc, Bulldog tragician, BT&T and WTLF (and apologies if I have missed anyone else)
                        You have all made a terrific contributions to discussions over a long, long time and it's been very much appreciated.

                        Thought I should add some more detail to what I mentioned while on the train trip to Bendigo on Sunday.

                        It's definitely not a financial decision, the site is hosted for less than a dollar a day and I get a lot more enjoyment from it than that. In fact in this day and age of spiraling costs I'd rate it as a good value for money deal given the entertainment and enjoyment I and hopefully many others receive.

                        It just comes down to participation levels from the forum members. Many of WOOF members have reached out and it's really appreciated. I liken the decision as one about when people start to consider trading in the loyal family truckster and working out if it has a few more services in it or do you cut your losses before it eventually stops running.

                        A lot of WOOF members haven't read this yet despite logging on so I might copy it over to it's own thread.

                        I've got a few options I'm reviewing which includes keeping the site open so at this stage all is not lost.
                        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                        • Bulldog Joe
                          Premiership Moderator
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 5442

                          Re: Giving up footy, thus this forum

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          Many thanks to all WOOF members who have taken the time to either ready or respond to my post about the forum's future.
                          In particular I want to call out the contributions from the likes of YHF, BT, MJP, GG, Soup, Eastdog, Hotdog60, Angelo, Aza, Topdog, Boots, MrMahatma, Rocco, EW, BAD, The Doc, Bulldog tragician, BT&T and WTLF (and apologies if I have missed anyone else)
                          You have all made a terrific contributions to discussions over a long, long time and it's been very much appreciated.

                          Thought I should add some more detail to what I mentioned while on the train trip to Bendigo on Sunday.

                          It's definitely not a financial decision, the site is hosted for less than a dollar a day and I get a lot more enjoyment from it than that. In fact in this day and age of spiraling costs I'd rate it as a good value for money deal given the entertainment and enjoyment I and hopefully many others receive.

                          It just comes down to participation levels from the forum members. Many of WOOF members have reached out and it's really appreciated. I liken the decision as one about when people start to consider trading in the loyal family truckster and working out if it has a few more services in it or do you cut your losses before it eventually stops running.

                          A lot of WOOF members haven't read this yet despite logging on so I might copy it over to it's own thread.

                          I've got a few options I'm reviewing which includes keeping the site open so at this stage all is not lost.
                          Thanks Gary
                          We certainly appreciate your efforts and while nothing lasts forever I sincerely hope we can keep operating in some form
                          I have had a few personal challenges particularly in relation to available time, but WOOF has given me somewhere to go even when I only have time for a quick read.
                          Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                          • MrMahatma
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 3960

                            Re: Giving up footy, thus this forum

                            Do we start a membership drive?

                            I don’t know too many other dogs fans not on this site. And I’ve told those I do know about it, but maybe it’s time to get more persistent!?

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34316

                              Re: Giving up footy, thus this forum

                              I’ve often thought about tiered membership.

                              Bronze level for anyone
                              Silver level for interesting threads, but some level of activity
                              Gold for information threads that rewards high activity (whatever that might be classed as)

                              Let those who post get positively rewarded and encouraged that to access the best content only requires forum contributions. If you don’t want to contribute and just read, then just read the bronze level stuff.

                              If you want the good stuff, then contribute to a level Gary is happy with. If posters like trade stuff or historical analysis, I’m happy to do even more and some by request if it meant it got classed into the higher level access. I love the coaching and draft stuff, and the preseason stuff too, so happy to have my posting rewarded with access to the good stuff.

                              Also, the club should look at giving us some sort of access to content we can create. If you think about the player sponsors, coterie members, reserved seat holders, social club members, members and serious merchandise buyers this forum would generate the club a very considerable amount of revenue and with WOOF lost who knows if the club will bleed a good chunk of that. If they provide some access to info I’m even happy to try to package that up into gold level content to further positively reinforce contribution to woof.
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • EasternWest
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 9929

                                Re: Giving up footy, thus this forum

                                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                                I’ve often thought about tiered membership.

                                Bronze level for anyone
                                Silver level for interesting threads, but some level of activity
                                Gold for information threads that rewards high activity (whatever that might be classed as)

                                Let those who post get positively rewarded and encouraged that to access the best content only requires forum contributions. If you don’t want to contribute and just read, then just read the bronze level stuff.

                                If you want the good stuff, then contribute to a level Gary is happy with. If posters like trade stuff or historical analysis, I’m happy to do even more and some by request if it meant it got classed into the higher level access. I love the coaching and draft stuff, and the preseason stuff too, so happy to have my posting rewarded with access to the good stuff.

                                Also, the club should look at giving us some sort of access to content we can create. If you think about the player sponsors, coterie members, reserved seat holders, social club members, members and serious merchandise buyers this forum would generate the club a very considerable amount of revenue and with WOOF list who knows if the club will bleed a good chunk of that. If they provide some access to info I’m even happy to try to package that up into gold level content to further positively reinforce contribution to woof.
                                What about those that just shitpost, but shitpost a lot?
                                "It's over. It's all over."

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