General Request Around Twitter

[EasternWest]

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Yes ad Central.
Twitter has one every 5 posts now.
They have their uses however they are limited.

Not sure if you folk are across the reddit saga.

The decision makers decided to monetise their api (which actually makes sense) which has destroyed a heap of third party apps who can't afford to pay the price.
Reddit moderators (people who run the subs for free) protested and went dark ergo they restricted access to their sub reddits.

Its been tit for tat every since.

Spez the ceo has said he's going to ban mods, the mods started allowing nsfw content to really blow it up (it became porn hub basically for a while) and it's getting to the point where most of the moderators who have been there since day dot are being forcibly removed.
Its so interesting to watch it implode.

[Grantysghost]

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Ha my favourite gif!

[Bornadog]

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You must have heard that on the ABC or The Guardian, so unsurprisingly that it is incorrect. Traffic on Twitter has significantly increased since the new ownership took over, in sharp contrast to contemporaries like FB and IG which are well down in the same period. Not sure why but Musk appears to be on the nose with the authoritarian/big govt overreach crowd - he was flavour of the month with the very same crowd not so long ago.

In fairness to all the social media platform owners, it must be incredibly complex to manage all elements of operation - it's way out of my pay scale and abilities.

Oh Please, don't insult my intelligence

I have nuked my twitter account in recent days and I am happier for it. It's become unusable, spam laden and a waste of time.

I used to like it's succinct ability to snatch the information you're looking for without having to constantly scroll past ads, sexbots, and the opinions of people who I don't follow (and who more often than not should be fired into the sun).

@sedat I don't know if you use it or not but Leon Husk, the free speech absolutist, certainly like to control, restrict and limit what people can do or say.

It's been circling the drain for a while now, hopefully it'll flush soon.

THIS^^^^

Most of my contacts on Twitter are not very happy at all - especially the last few days when Musk put on limits for viewing Tweets, so don't blame you EW

[hujsh]

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Yes ad Central.
Twitter has one every 5 posts now.
They have their uses however they are limited.

Not sure if you folk are across the reddit saga.

The decision makers decided to monetise their api (which actually makes sense) which has destroyed a heap of third party apps who can't afford to pay the price.
Reddit moderators (people who run the subs for free) protested and went dark ergo they restricted access to their sub reddits.

Its been tit for tat every since.

Spez the ceo has said he's going to ban mods, the mods started allowing nsfw content to really blow it up (it became porn hub basically for a while) and it's getting to the point where most of the moderators who have been there since day dot are being forcibly removed.
Its so interesting to watch it implode.

FWIW those mods work for free (at least to my knowledge, there may be exceptions), relied on these apps to help moderate things and a number of those subs didn't actually allow porn. They made the subs NSFW/18+ meaning it can't be monetised but would still remove actual pornography. I'm pretty sure that's what the big subredits did that had the mods removed.

Seems to have damaged the site quite a bit as someone who uses it daily pretty much

[EasternWest]

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FWIW those mods work for free (at least to my knowledge, there may be exceptions), relied on these apps to help moderate things and a number of those subs didn't actually allow porn. They made the subs NSFW/18+ meaning it can't be monetised but would still remove actual pornography. I'm pretty sure that's what the big subredits did that had the mods removed.

Seems to have damaged the site quite a bit as someone who uses it daily pretty much

[hujsh]

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appropriate

[jeemak]

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I'm enjoying the radicalisation of Sedat that's been going on for a few years now.

[Bornadog]

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I'm enjoying the radicalisation of Sedat that's been going on for a few years now.

One of the things I enjoy about WOOF is posters not playing the man - can we keep it that way

[jeemak]

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One of the things I enjoy about WOOF is posters not playing the man - can we keep it that way

Sorry it was tongue in cheek in response to his bombastic approach which has gotten more pronounced and which I genuinely enjoy.

He's a big boy and would answer accordingly, but happy to leave it there and lay off if that's what's required.

[Sedat]

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Sorry it was tongue in cheek in response to his bombastic approach which has gotten more pronounced and which I genuinely enjoy.

He's a big boy and would answer accordingly, but happy to leave it there and lay off if that's what's required.

All good Jee

To counter your 'radicalisation' claim (I know it was a bit of a throwaway), I would simply say that I personally haven't moved the needle at all - every gut-instinct and inner belief I hold dear hasn't changed at all over time. Instead, what is considered acceptable in modern society has drifted further and further towards the extremes. So those of us in the sensible middle ground (and I still believe that is the vast majority of us) are now absurdly considered as 'radicals' (by the real extremists) because we refuse to engage with the utter nonsense being shoved down our collective throats and being sold as 'fact' - they always are what they accuse you of

There is an earn in absolutely everything, and narratives are created to specifically benefit the hip pocket of whoever is perpetuating said narratives. The biggest offenders are politicians, big business, globalist organisations who haven't been elected to represent anyone, media, lobby groups - they are all obsessed with the concentration of power and wealth - so their opinions on any topic are all automatically discarded by me. My personal bubble is sacred to me, as it is to most people. And I always believe that people are inherently good and want to do good. Individual autonomy should be a non-negotiable and should never be tampered with. Collectivism is a slippery slope that only ends in mass destruction.

All the above is just my opinion of course, and I absolutely love hearing differing viewpoints and perspectives - I'm old enough and ugly enough to understand I know 2/5th of stuff-all about most things in life, and always have an ear open to new ideas from better informed people (not necessarily better 'educated'). I am also a cynical Gen Xer who has a finely honed BS detector and can sniff shameless grifters selling horse shit from a mile off.

[jeemak]

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Nice.

[hujsh]

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To counter your 'radicalisation' claim (I know it was a bit of a throwaway), I would simply say that I personally haven't moved the needle at all - every gut-instinct and inner belief I hold dear hasn't changed at all over time. Instead, what is considered acceptable in modern society has drifted further and further towards the extremes. So those of us in the sensible middle ground (and I still believe that is the vast majority of us) are now absurdly considered as 'radicals' (by the real extremists) because we refuse to engage with the utter nonsense being shoved down our collective throats and being sold as 'fact' - they always are what they accuse you of

Funnily enough this is almost word for word exactly what a lot of right wing media figures claim. People like Dave Rubin (though I doubt many here have heard of him). Not that you're a right wing media figure, just funny to see that elsewhere.

There is an earn in absolutely everything, and narratives are created to specifically benefit the hip pocket of whoever is perpetuating said narratives. The biggest offenders are politicians, big business, globalist organisations who haven't been elected to represent anyone, media, lobby groups - they are all obsessed with the concentration of power and wealth - so their opinions on any topic are all automatically discarded by me. My personal bubble is sacred to me, as it is to most people. And I always believe that people are inherently good and want to do good. Individual autonomy should be a non-negotiable and should never be tampered with. Collectivism is a slippery slope that only ends in mass destruction.

That could well be called radical and is in many ways ahistorical to how humanity developed and probably doesn't take into account non Western cultures. You always need a balance between the two.

Though sometimes one feeds into the other. A more collectivist approach to society that provided people with a proper safety net (eg a UBI) would enable more personal autonomy to people to try different things without fear of financial devastation. How much untapped potential exists out there stuck in a job they hate but would actually be brilliant at something else if given the opportunity to try? Whether that enables more individual autonomy or takes it away (taxes are slavery!) I guess depends on a given point of view.

On the other hand something like vagrancy laws are maybe an example of forced collectivism where people are made to be part of society when they maybe don't quite fit in and would be happier living off the land somewhere.

And that's why please don't post twitter links.

[Sedat]

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Loved your post hujsh, really thought-provoking.

Funnily enough this is almost word for word exactly what a lot of right wing media figures claim. People like Dave Rubin (though I doubt many here have heard of him). Not that you're a right wing media figure, just funny to see that elsewhere.

No relation to Rick Rubin, the producer who did a stellar job on some of the most iconic albums from Johnny Cash, Beastie Boys, The Cult, AC/DC and others?

I will say that the actual word 'conservative' has been trashed in modern society and lost all of its real meaning. The entire concept of conserving and protecting what you have carefully built and created, and living life within your means and with gratitude for what you have, is a most noble pursuit - I also very much prefer evolution to revolution as a concept that provides greater stability and less division, and it feels like the last few years have easily been the most 'revolutionary' in my lifetime (especially in terms of ideas and theories that would have been considered absurd and downright dangerous a few short years ago). That's down to pure dumb luck being born and living through the most peaceful and prosperous period of time in history - my parents and previous generations weren't so lucky.

I also don't subscribe to the whole "left-wing right wing" debate - most systems of govt tend to be either 1 authoritarian ruling party or 2 democratically elected major ruling parties (who alternate power from time to time, and who honestly barely differ in core policies), and IMO the end result of both systems is similar (and only different by degrees of control). Both systems involve horrendous concentrations of power that only hurt the people that are supposed to be served - at least the authoritarian system is completely honest and up-front about what it is.

That could well be called radical and is in many ways ahistorical to how humanity developed and probably doesn't take into account non Western cultures. You always need a balance between the two.

Though sometimes one feeds into the other. A more collectivist approach to society that provided people with a proper safety net (eg a UBI) would enable more personal autonomy to people to try different things without fear of financial devastation. How much untapped potential exists out there stuck in a job they hate but would actually be brilliant at something else if given the opportunity to try? Whether that enables more individual autonomy or takes it away (taxes are slavery!) I guess depends on a given point of view.

On the other hand something like vagrancy laws are maybe an example of forced collectivism where people are made to be part of society when they maybe don't quite fit in and would be happier living off the land somewhere.

And that's why please don't post twitter links.

You're 100% right about non-Western civilisations over the centuries - they really did live the mantra that "it takes an entire village to raise a child". I guess Collectivism is a pure and noble concept on paper, exemplified by the villages and communities you mentioned, who obviously have pure intentions of building everybody up from the weakest to the strongest. Unfortunately the collectivist mindset is prone to terrible abuse when in nefarious hands, and history has all too often proven that it has succumbed to those dark forces and created some of the worst mass devastation ever seen in history.

[hujsh]

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Loved your post hujsh, really thought-provoking.


No relation to Rick Rubin, the producer who did a stellar job on some of the most iconic albums from Johnny Cash, Beastie Boys, The Cult, AC/DC and others?

I will say that the actual word 'conservative' has been trashed in modern society and lost all of its real meaning. The entire concept of conserving and protecting what you have carefully built and created, and living life within your means and with gratitude for what you have, is a most noble pursuit - I also very much prefer evolution to revolution as a concept that provides greater stability and less division, and it feels like the last few years have easily been the most 'revolutionary' in my lifetime (especially in terms of ideas and theories that would have been considered absurd and downright dangerous a few short years ago). That's down to pure dumb luck being born and living through the most peaceful and prosperous period of time in history - my parents and previous generations weren't so lucky.

I also don't subscribe to the whole "left-wing right wing" debate - most systems of govt tend to be either 1 authoritarian ruling party or 2 democratically elected major ruling parties (who alternate power from time to time, and who honestly barely differ in core policies), and IMO the end result of both systems is similar (and only different by degrees of control). Both systems involve horrendous concentrations of power that only hurt the people that are supposed to be served - at least the authoritarian system is completely honest and up-front about what it is.


You're 100% right about non-Western civilisations over the centuries - they really did live the mantra that "it takes an entire village to raise a child". I guess Collectivism is a pure and noble concept on paper, exemplified by the villages and communities you mentioned, who obviously have pure intentions of building everybody up from the weakest to the strongest. Unfortunately the collectivist mindset is prone to terrible abuse when in nefarious hands, and history has all too often proven that it has succumbed to those dark forces and created some of the worst mass devastation ever seen in history.

100% agree on conservatism. There are times where things should be protected and maintained. I think what we see today is Reactionary ideals. Less about embracing some change but preserving what was good about what came before and more just reflexively swatting away any change or new ideas.

I wonder what comes to mind for you when you say the worst mass devastation seen in history? Normally when I see people say that I imagine they mean Stalin and Pol Pot, maybe Hitler, but rarely Hiroshima or the famines in India and Ireland. I suppose it could be argued none of those were truly individualistic acts though and maybe just different capitalist vs communist vs fascist forms of violence only capable through mass collective action in some way or another.

[hujsh]

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I love that after completely bombing when trying to do a twitter spaces interview with Little Ronda (Gov Ron Desantis) Elon and his few remaining employees at X have learned absolutely nothing and had the exact same experience with Trump. So incompetent.

People immediately started posting links to AI scams using Elons voice to tell people to buy crypto.

I'm still glad I never got on Twitter. Seems to make everyone that use it feel sad when they do