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  • lemmon
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Nov 2008
    • 6505

    Your Ashes' XI

    One warm-up down and one to go, there were some interesting results from a good hit out and win in Kent (not least from future England test star Daniel Bell-Drummond, remember the name).

    Johnson was the pick of the bowlers and is certain to be selected while Harris is well short of a gallop and may be the man to miss for Starc and Hazlewood who were both rested. Ahmed bowled himself out of any Agar-esque meteoric rise and Lyon is a certainty. Siddle was solid but with these pace stocks that's not enough and looks to have slipped into 'good squad man' range.

    On the bowling side, unless Harris picks up a bag in the final game it looks like we'll be going - Johnson, Starc, Hazlewood, Lyon

    On the batting side there are two key battles for the second openers position and for the spot at number 6. Rogers made 80 odd but was overshadowed by Shaun Marsh's century. Is it telling that Shaun Marsh has been rested from the second tour game while Rogers is playing or should it be interpreted that Rogers is the preferred option and they want to give the best combination a hit out? I'd say that's virtually a dead heat at the moment and could go either way.

    Finally Watson made a solid second innings 80 as the side went for quick runs but was again outdone by a Marsh, as Mitch slapped his way to a century from 90 odd balls. I am concerned we haven't yet seen Marsh build an innings and all his runs seem to come when we hunt a declaration but it looks like he's striking them well. Watson didn't bowl while Marsh put together 17 handy overs and picked up two wickets. Watson has been told he must bowl to be selected and the final warm-up will be the final audition for both. I think Marsh may be ahead by a nose at this stage.

    So with one warm-still to be played I think we are looking at:
    Warner (lock)
    Rogers/Marsh (50/50)
    Smith (lock)
    Clarke (lock)
    Voges (lock)
    Marsh/Watson (Maybe Marsh ahead by a nose, will come down to final tour game)
    Johnson (lock)
    Starc (lock - unless Harris picks up a bag)
    Hazlewood (lock - unless Harris picks up a bag)
    Lyon (lock)
  • FrediKanoute
    Coaching Staff
    • Aug 2007
    • 3814

    #2
    Re: Your Ashes' XI

    Nice summary. I have tickets to Cardiff Day 2 and Lords Day 1. I think we will see Rogers start the series, but Marsh finish it. Same for Watson and the other Marsh. There will be a transition during the tour.

    The bowlers are harder. I think failing Harris producing a serious haul of wickets (and I mean good wickets), then the three incumbents will start, but again I see this chopping and changing. Johnson was the least impressive in the West Indies and his English form is not great. Personally he is the one that will miss. I think Starc is safe as a starter, but he needs to get wickets and not concede huge numbers. Hazelwood for mine is the Lock - the new metronome.

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44330

      #3
      Re: Your Ashes' XI

      I think it will could very well be Shaun Marsh before Voges and we will be looking for a reason to include Harris. Starc and Hazlewood will want to make the most of their chances. History would say Watson would need to be injured before Mitch Marsh would replace him

      I'd still prefer to see Smith at 5 but it's very unlikely.
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      • Greystache
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Dec 2009
        • 9775

        #4
        Re: Your Ashes' XI

        I don't understand the selectors determination to crow bar S Marsh into the team. He's a mediocre first class batsman and a below average Test batsman. His Dad just be a ripping bloke.

        I'd go with

        Warner
        Rogers
        Smith
        Clarke
        Voges
        M Marsh
        Haddin
        Johnson
        Starc
        Hazelwood
        Lyon

        I think Harris is underdone and it isn't necessarily the worst thing if he misses the first Test anyway. I'd go with Marsh over Watson, his bowling can be better relied upon for volume, and he's more likely to make a contribution with the bat.
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        • Twodogs
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 27654

          #5
          Re: Your Ashes' XI

          Not long to go now. Does the tour match start tonight?
          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66164

            #6
            Re: Your Ashes' XI

            Harris injured and has failed a fitness test so won't be playing in Cardiff for the first test.
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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66164

              #7
              Re: Your Ashes' XI

              Originally posted by Twodogs
              Not long to go now. Does the tour match start tonight?
              We have played Kent and currently playing Essex.

              Australians 118/2 (24.3 ov)
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              • Greystache
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Dec 2009
                • 9775

                #8
                Re: Your Ashes' XI

                Good to see Warner in the runs, currently on 80odd. Rogers out for 21 and Clarke with a first ball duck is a concern though.
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                • comrade
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 17924

                  #9
                  Re: Your Ashes' XI

                  Can we please, finally, for all of eternity, move on from Watson?

                  Agree with Grey's team.
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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66164

                    #10
                    Re: Your Ashes' XI

                    Originally posted by Greystache
                    Good to see Warner in the runs, currently on 80odd. Rogers out for 21 and Clarke with a first ball duck is a concern though.
                    Out for 94. Let's see what Watson can do.
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                    • Twodogs
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 27654

                      #11
                      Re: Your Ashes' XI

                      Originally posted by comrade
                      Can we please, finally, for all of eternity, move on from Watson?

                      Agree with Grey's team.
                      I'd love that, I've been ready to move on from Watson for years.
                      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                      • Twodogs
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27654

                        #12
                        Re: Your Ashes' XI

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        We have played Kent and currently playing Essex.

                        Australians 118/2 (24.3 ov)
                        Thanks mate. I've found a radio stream via the BBC sport site.
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66164

                          #13
                          Re: Your Ashes' XI

                          Mitch Marsh making a case to be in the first test line up with 136 not out.
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                          • lemmon
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 6505

                            #14
                            Re: Your Ashes' XI

                            A solid performance with the ball will seal it but the spot is just about his I imagine

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                            • Ozza
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 6403

                              #15
                              Re: Your Ashes' XI

                              I think Mitch Marsh has to play now. You can't ignore that sort of form and confidence.

                              I'd be happy with greystache's team also.

                              Starc will be bowling for his spot/to keep Harris out. Which is healthy.

                              I think this has the potential to be Hazlewood's breakout series.

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