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  • chef
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2008
    • 14493

    Re: Epl 2015/16.

    Originally posted by Eastdog
    I see sounds like he would be good initially but I think we would if we were looking for a manager someone who could be there for the long haul.
    I really don't think teams should or are looking at managers to be there 'long term'. SAF was a once in a life time(who knows maybe ever) type of manager. Wengers been at Arsenal for ages, but should have moved on 5 or so years ago.

    At big clubs managers need to come in and hit the ground running, other wise you'll be flicked pretty quick.
    The curse is dead.

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    • Eastdog
      WOOF Communtiy Organiser
      • Feb 2012
      • 18161

      Re: Epl 2015/16.

      Originally posted by chef
      I really don't think teams should or are looking at managers to be there 'long term'. SAF was a once in a life time(who knows maybe ever) type of manager. Wengers been at Arsenal for ages, but should have moved on 5 or so years ago.

      At big clubs managers need to come in and hit the ground running, other wise you'll be flicked pretty quick.
      Yes you make a fair point chef. Fergie certainly was a rarity and I'm not sure will see a manager like that again maybe Moutinho could do more things. When Fergie came to United in 86 we were struggling and not until 5/6 years later did success come. The 70s and 80s for Man U were very lean years.
      "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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      • Twodogs
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        • Nov 2006
        • 27638

        Re: Epl 2015/16.

        True that it's fairly typical that something out of the box usually happens in our games.

        It is good to see the back of Mou for now. I rate Guus though and he's not afraid to shuffle his formations around and Arsene can struggle with that.
        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 65650

          Re: Epl 2015/16.

          Originally posted by chef
          I really don't think teams should or are looking at managers to be there 'long term'. SAF was a once in a life time(who knows maybe ever) type of manager. Wengers been at Arsenal for ages, but should have moved on 5 or so years ago.

          At big clubs managers need to come in and hit the ground running, other wise you'll be flicked pretty quick.
          If we can't win the title this year, surely it's time for a change.
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          • chef
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 14493

            Re: Epl 2015/16.

            Originally posted by bornadog
            If we can't win the title this year, surely it's time for a change.
            Agree.
            The curse is dead.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              Re: Epl 2015/16.

              Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
              Pool must be banging their heads against the wall, they just can't beat you.

              Anyone know how rooner is doing?
              We were bored into submission. I've said it before, if United sell De Gea they are in Real strife. I have no concerns, this season is a complete write off and next has so much to look forward for.

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              • Twodogs
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 27638

                Re: Epl 2015/16.

                Originally posted by bornadog
                If we can't win the title this year, surely it's time for a change.
                Originally posted by chef
                Agree.

                I tell you his job description is to qualify us for Europe. As long as the Euros flow in the owner is happy.
                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                • chef
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 14493

                  Re: Epl 2015/16.

                  Originally posted by Rooner
                  We were bored into submission. I've said it before, if United sell De Gea they are in Real strife. I have no concerns, this season is a complete write off and next has so much to look forward for.
                  Madrids just got a transfer ban for next season so De Gea isnt going anywhere for a while.
                  The curse is dead.

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                  • Topdog
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 7470

                    Re: Epl 2015/16.

                    Originally posted by chef
                    I really don't think teams should or are looking at managers to be there 'long term'. SAF was a once in a life time(who knows maybe ever) type of manager. Wengers been at Arsenal for ages, but should have moved on 5 or so years ago.

                    At big clubs managers need to come in and hit the ground running, other wise you'll be flicked pretty quick.
                    Spot on and managers are mostly the same. Pep and Mou are the new style.

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                    • Twodogs
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 27638

                      Re: Epl 2015/16.

                      It's funny the difference between footy and soccer. Footy is all planning and long term strategy and soccer is all now now now and sugar hits. I wonder which is better?

                      It's probably because footy is still a domestic sport and we can indulge ourselves in secure long term thinking about it.
                      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                      • FrediKanoute
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 3801

                        Re: Epl 2015/16.

                        Originally posted by Twodogs
                        It's funny the difference between footy and soccer. Footy is all planning and long term strategy and soccer is all now now now and sugar hits. I wonder which is better?

                        It's probably because footy is still a domestic sport and we can indulge ourselves in secure long term thinking about it.
                        It really only went that way when Roman took over Chelski and then the Abu Dabi money bought Man City. Up until that point most Premier League clubs would splash the cash on one or two big signings a year. The most successful, Man U, was basically built on a home grown core, with top line talent added in.

                        Its funny, but some clubs are slowly trying to move back that way. The Chelsea's and City's aren't - they have an endless tap. Man U aren't because they haven't yet worked out that assembling £250m of talent alone isn't worth diddly unless you have a plan on how they will play. Spurs, Southhampton have shown the value in having a strong youth system. More fun too as a supporter to see kids graduate from the youth squads into the senior team and become top line talent.

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 65650

                          Re: Epl 2015/16.

                          Originally posted by FrediKanoute
                          It really only went that way when Roman took over Chelski and then the Abu Dabi money bought Man City. Up until that point most Premier League clubs would splash the cash on one or two big signings a year. The most successful, Man U, was basically built on a home grown core, with top line talent added in.

                          Its funny, but some clubs are slowly trying to move back that way. The Chelsea's and City's aren't - they have an endless tap. Man U aren't because they haven't yet worked out that assembling £250m of talent alone isn't worth diddly unless you have a plan on how they will play. Spurs, Southhampton have shown the value in having a strong youth system. More fun too as a supporter to see kids graduate from the youth squads into the senior team and become top line talent.
                          What do you equate Leicester City's success to?
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                          • Remi Moses
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 14785

                            Re: Epl 2015/16.

                            Originally posted by Rooner
                            We were bored into submission. I've said it before, if United sell De Gea they are in Real strife. I have no concerns, this season is a complete write off and next has so much to look forward for.
                            Of course you were
                            Give it a spell, you lot would take winning the league by any means after 26 YEARS.
                            You would have been on here not giving a toss if the boot was on the other foot.
                            Give me a crap 1 nil win over a 3 3 any day, and in particular against your bitter rivals

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                            • Twodogs
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 27638

                              Re: Epl 2015/16.

                              Originally posted by Remi Moses
                              Of course you were
                              Give it a spell, you lot would take winning the league by any means after 26 YEARS.
                              You would have been on here not giving a toss if the boot was on the other foot.
                              Give me a crap 1 nil win over a 3 3 any day, and in particular against your bitter rivals

                              I'd happily swap our 3 all draw for a crappy 1-0 win.
                              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                              • chef
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 14493

                                Re: Epl 2015/16.

                                Originally posted by FrediKanoute

                                Its funny, but some clubs are slowly trying to move back that way. The Chelsea's and City's aren't - they have an endless tap. Man U aren't because they haven't yet worked out that assembling £250m of talent alone isn't worth diddly unless you have a plan on how they will play. Spurs, Southhampton have shown the value in having a strong youth system. More fun too as a supporter to see kids graduate from the youth squads into the senior team and become top line talent.
                                We do have endless tap but.......

                                Since 2011 when Emenalo over hauled our whole operation i would say our net spend is definitely less than United, City and Pool and maybe even your Spuds. We are now a hell of a lot more youth focused and our academy and loaning system has seen us find a fair few gems lately like Zouma, Courtois, RLC, Lukaku, KBD, Traore, Ake, Christensen, Chalobah, Solanke etc. Our under 21's which is filled with talent who have been at the club since they were before teens in some cases just one the UEFA cup and has won the last couple of FA cups for their age group and we are now seeing a few of those guys slowly trickling into our senior team.

                                The last piece of this puzzle is finding a manager who'll play these kids, which is the hardest part. Mou was not the answer to this(and cost us Lukaku and KDB), im pretty certain the next guy to come in will have a greater responsibility in further developing these stars
                                The curse is dead.

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