Fourth Ashes Test - Old Trafford - 4h to 9th September 2019

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  • Bornadog
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    • Jan 2007
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    Fourth Ashes Test - Old Trafford - 4h to 9th September 2019

    Talk of Mitch Marsh coming in.

    I personally want Starc to come in for Pattinson.
    Last edited by Bornadog; 03-09-2019, 08:36 AM.
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  • Topdog
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
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    #2
    Re: Fourth Ashes Test - Old Trafford - 4h to 9th September 2019

    Probably won't need all 6 days

    Certainly in favour of bringing in Starc, clearly need someone that can finish the tail.

    Marsh may have earned his spot but that would make 3 changes from a test match that we lost due to horrendous captaincy

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    • FrediKanoute
      Coaching Staff
      • Aug 2007
      • 3797

      #3
      Re: Fourth Ashes Test - Old Trafford - 4h to 9th September 2019

      More than a rumour it seems that Marsh will come in. Personally it smacks of panic and Australia casting an alluring eye to Stokes and wowing at what an All ROunder can do. We forget though that Stokes, Flintoff, Botham were not just All Rounders they were sensational All Round cricketers in their own right. Marsh has tecnhnique problems against a seaming which Broad and Woakes will expose. The fact he is a right hander will not change this.

      AS for Starc, I think the time is right. Hazelwood and Cummins will stay, so really its a choice between Starc, Siddle and Pattison. My feeling is that if Starc plays then they want Marsh's bowling to help stem the flow of runs.

      Seems like a bit of a panic to me!

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      • Axe Man
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        #4
        Re: Fourth Ashes Test - Old Trafford - 4h to 9th September 2019

        Relax everyone, Mitch Marsh isn't playing:

        Australian XII: Tim Paine (c, wk), David Warner, Marcus Harris, Marnus Labuschagne, Steve Smith, Travis Head, Matthew Wade, Pat Cummins, Peter Siddle, Mitch Starc, Josh Hazlewood, Nathan Lyon.

        In: Smith, Starc
        Out: Khawaja, Pattinson

        Presumably Starc and Siddle to vie for the final fast bowling spot.

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        • lemmon
          Bulldog Team of the Century
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          #5
          Re: Fourth Ashes Test - Old Trafford - 4h to 9th September 2019

          I wonder what the tipping point was for Harris v Khawaja?

          Khawaja averages 96.8 from 7 innings as opener but those innings have come in:
          3x Sydney
          1x Adelaide
          2x Dubai
          1x Abu Dhabi

          Not quite the kind of conditions he'll encounter at Old Trafford.

          He also now averages sub 30 outside of Australia and sub 20 in the UK.

          I would have gone for Harris, but interesting that Khawaja made more runs and captained in the tour game.

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          • Axe Man
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            #6
            Re: Fourth Ashes Test - Old Trafford - 4h to 9th September 2019

            Originally posted by lemmon
            I would have gone for Harris, but interesting that Khawaja made more runs and captained in the tour game.
            64 (117) for Harris (run out) v 72 (157) for Khawaja (bowled). Not too much between those figures really.

            I'm somewhat surprised that have gone with Harris over Khawaja but as you pointed out his record in England is poor. It's a shame he couldn't go on at any stage in the first 3 tests as he often looked in good touch but would then just get out. Hopefully Harris can take his opportunity.

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            • Sedat
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              • Sep 2007
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              #7
              Re: Fourth Ashes Test - Old Trafford - 4h to 9th September 2019

              Justin Langer was 100% right about Harris all those years ago when he was coach of WA - a lot of nice 20's and 30's.

              He's a big tease - better cash in soon.
              "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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              • FrediKanoute
                Coaching Staff
                • Aug 2007
                • 3797

                #8
                Re: Fourth Ashes Test - Old Trafford - 4h to 9th September 2019

                Originally posted by Sedat
                Justin Langer was 100% right about Harris all those years ago when he was coach of WA - a lot of nice 20's and 30's.

                He's a big tease - better cash in soon.
                Right now 20 or 30 out of an opener would almost worth a ton!

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                • Bornadog
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                  #9
                  Re: Fourth Ashes Test - Old Trafford - 4h to 9th September 2019

                  Woakes out and Overton in
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                  • Bornadog
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                    #10
                    Re: Fourth Ashes Test - Old Trafford - 4h to 9th September 2019

                    Australia won the toss and will bat
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                    • Bornadog
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                      #11
                      Re: Fourth Ashes Test - Old Trafford - 4h to 9th September 2019

                      Warner DUCK - that is it get rid of him
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                      • ledge
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 14029

                        #12
                        Re: Fourth Ashes Test - Old Trafford - 4h to 9th September 2019

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        Warner DUCK - that is it get rid of him
                        Flat track bully , can’t believe he even got on the tour to be honest,his history is horrid over there.
                        Bring back the biff

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
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                          #13
                          Re: Fourth Ashes Test - Old Trafford - 4h to 9th September 2019

                          Harris gone
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                          • Sedat
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                            #14
                            Re: Fourth Ashes Test - Old Trafford - 4h to 9th September 2019

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            Harris gone
                            Was a nice 13
                            "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                            • FrediKanoute
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Aug 2007
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                              #15
                              Re: Fourth Ashes Test - Old Trafford - 4h to 9th September 2019

                              Really need Smith and Lambuschagne to consolidate......fingers crossed

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