Justin Langer

[jeemak]

Re: Justin Langer

I'm not sure what else Langer could have done in terms of results but it seems he may have lost the support of the players. He shouldn't have to reapply for his job should he?

I think everyone in cricket aside from the mates he played with acknowledges he's not been great based on the information that's been leaked en masse. With that in mind he should probably not be given the opportunity to reapply.

[GVGjr]

Re: Justin Langer

I think everyone in cricket aside from the mates he played with acknowledges he's not been great based on the information that's been leaked en masse. With that in mind he should probably not be given the opportunity to reapply.

If CA wants to move into another direction then they should get serious and tell him it's time he needs to look elsewhere.
Asking someone like him to reapply for a position he's done for 4 years doesn't seem right to me.

[jeemak]

Re: Justin Langer

If CA wants to move into another direction then they should get serious and tell him it's time he needd to look elsewhere.
Asking someone like him to reapply for a position he's done for 4 years doesn't seem right to me.

I think we actually agree on that. However, CA much like the AFL is loaded with buffoons who wouldn't survive in the wild and can't act decisively to save themselves. You only need to look at the Tim Payne situation to see that.

[GVGjr]

Re: Justin Langer

I think we actually agree on that. However, CA much like the AFL is loaded with buffoons who wouldn't survive in the wild and can't act decisively to save themselves. You only need to look at the Tim Payne situation to see that.

They must have someone else in mind. Trevor Bayliss has been mentioned.

[FrediKanoute]

Re: Justin Langer

If CA wants to move into another direction then they should get serious and tell him it's time he needs to look elsewhere.
Asking someone like him to reapply for a position he's done for 4 years doesn't seem right to me.

Agree. Asking anyone to reapply for their jobs is bullsh*t

[Grantysghost]

Re: Justin Langer

Agree. Asking anyone to reapply for their jobs is bullsh*t

If only he was from NSW….

[Bornadog]

Re: Justin Langer

Langer has resigned

[GVGjr]

Re: Justin Langer

Langer has resigned

Thats a shame

If CA had been making some good decisions of late I'd be less skeptical that he hasn't been given a push in that direction.
Has player power won out or has CA just made another poor decision? We might never know.

[jeemak]

Re: Justin Langer

The players fairly and squarely pushed him under the bus.

CA's hand was forced and he's been given the opportunity to resign and create a narrative that saves face for him and makes CA look incompetent again.

From CA's point of view it's not so bad. They've been eating shit for a while and had a little more coming. And you know what they say, if you're going to eat shit you may as well eat it all at once.

[EasternWest]

Re: Justin Langer

And you know what they say, if you're going to eat shit you may as well eat it all at once.

I did not know that's what they said, but it makes sense when you put it so plainly.

Once again with the pampered Australian cricket system, the tail wags the dog.

[jeemak]

Re: Justin Langer

I did not know that's what they said, but it makes sense when you put it so plainly.

Once again with the pampered Australian cricket system, the tail wags the dog.

That's all they say.

[GVGjr]

Re: Justin Langer

CA has made a lot of bad decisions over the last few years but appointing Langer was actually a good one.
He had done a long apprenticeship and kept waiting even after the Mickey Aurthur appointment and he was ready to go to fix the problems after sandpaper gate.
To have him resign after chasing a long term extension given the results he has achieved doesn't reflect well on the leadership of CA.
The fact that he was offered just an insulting 6 month contract left the decision on him and a gutless CA didn't have to sack him knowing that he would resign.

If the players have some problems with him CA should have been able to put something in place to bridge that gap.

I wonder who CA ultimately see as his replacement?

[jeemak]

Re: Justin Langer

This isn't a bad summary from Malcolm Conn:

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/langer-and-cricket-australia-should-have-seen-this-car-crash-coming-20220205-p59u1z.html

By resigning, Justin Langer made the right decision at the wrong time.
By failing to make a timely decision on Langer’s future, Cricket Australia humiliated one of the game’s greats.
Both missed the opportunity for Langer to have the farewell he deserved.
If he had the ability to read rooms, Langer could have announced at the start of the Ashes that the series would be his last and stepped down as a conquering hero, adding Australia’s first Twenty20 World Cup title and a 4-0 Ashes triumph as a coach to his glittering playing career.

Pretty much sums it up.

[FrediKanoute]

Re: Justin Langer

This isn't a bad summary from Malcolm Conn:

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/langer-and-cricket-australia-should-have-seen-this-car-crash-coming-20220205-p59u1z.html

By resigning, Justin Langer made the right decision at the wrong time.
By failing to make a timely decision on Langer’s future, Cricket Australia humiliated one of the game’s greats.
Both missed the opportunity for Langer to have the farewell he deserved.
If he had the ability to read rooms, Langer could have announced at the start of the Ashes that the series would be his last and stepped down as a conquering hero, adding Australia’s first Twenty20 World Cup title and a 4-0 Ashes triumph as a coach to his glittering playing career.

Pretty much sums it up.

Agree with this. I don't mind the fact that Langer has gone. Every coach has a cycle and sometimes there is an inclination to hang on too long. CA did this with Lehmann. Winning the T20 WC and the Ashes completes the cycle which starts again with tours of the sub-continent. Maybe you could argue that a tour of India/SA would have crowned things off, but 4 to 5 years in the role is a lot.

What I do mind is the manner of his departing. No one comes out of this looking good. CA look like muppets; Langer looks like a bit of a sook; and Cummin's looks like a bit of a backstabber.

interesting that Langer is in the frame for the england job. If he takes it the first call he should make is to Eddie Jones to get an understanding of how to manage the media. Control that and the England job is much much easier.