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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 45505

    #16
    Re: Andrew Symonds

    Originally posted by Lantern
    If Hodgey is considered past Test cricket, then Katich should be also. If scoring a ton of runs in domestic cricket is supposed to get you back in the side, then Matthew Elliott should have been recalled a few years ago. Katich ran his race years ago.. we're looking backwards.
    I suppose that when it came to the crunch, the selectors could only pick either Hodge or Katich and went with the latter because of the sheer weight of runs. If you had to pick one would you have chosen Hodge over Katich?

    In hindsight we probably could have simply just gone with a younger player all together.
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    • hujsh
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2007
      • 11960

      #17
      Re: Andrew Symonds

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      I suppose that when it came to the crunch, the selectors could only pick either Hodge or Katich and went with the latter because of the sheer weight of runs. If you had to pick one would you have chosen Hodge over Katich?

      In hindsight we probably could have simply just gone with a younger player all together.
      Making me correct. I love hindsight
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      • Happy Days
        Hall of Fame
        • May 2008
        • 10241

        #18
        Re: Andrew Symonds

        Originally posted by Lantern
        If scoring a ton of runs in domestic cricket is supposed to get you back in the side, then Matthew Elliott should have been recalled a few years ago.
        He was recalled...made 1 and a duck.
        - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #19
          Re: Andrew Symonds

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          I suppose that when it came to the crunch, the selectors could only pick either Hodge or Katich and went with the latter because of the sheer weight of runs. If you had to pick one would you have chosen Hodge over Katich?

          In hindsight we probably could have simply just gone with a younger player all together.
          D. Hussey.

          I know he's not that much younger, but he's surely earnt a go, and if he goes anything like his brother he'll be 'right.

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 45505

            #20
            Re: Andrew Symonds

            I can't believe that Symonds has been added to a 13 man test squad. He seriously has done nothing to earn this recall.
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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #21
              Re: Andrew Symonds

              Well he should never have been dropped.

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              • ledge
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2007
                • 14549

                #22
                Re: Andrew Symonds

                We can debate on whether he should have been dropped or not, but none of us were at the meeting and know the whole story.
                As for being picked now, certainly shouldnt have been if going on form, but then again when has form meant anything especially regarding playing for Victoria eg Hussey and Hodge.
                Lehmann was the biggest proof of that i ever saw, played for SA and got picked, went over to Vics and got dropped then returned to SA and got picked again!
                Poor old Matty Elliott should have moved to SA 12 years ago, would have partnered Hayden as Australias opener for 10 of those years.
                Bring back the biff

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 45505

                  #23
                  Re: Andrew Symonds

                  Yes, his form and attitude are the main reason why I think he should be at the back of the queue. It wouldn't concern me if it was a limited over game even though I don't think he should be selected there either but he just doesn't have the runs on the board to deserve to be selected in the test side.
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                  • hujsh
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 11960

                    #24
                    Re: Andrew Symonds

                    The reasoning was something along the lines of he spent time against India and the West Indies solidifying his place in the team, so now he's available for selection he must be considered.


                    It took him that long getting comfortable in tests i wonder if he can re-adapt quickly enough.

                    I agree completely he doesn't deserve his spot, based on form. I would place him in the top 6 Aussie batsmen for ability though.
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                    • dog town
                      Senior Player
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 1925

                      #25
                      Re: Andrew Symonds

                      Rumour is that Michael Clarke will be out with illness/injury and Symonds is the back up for the batting spot. Hodge is extremely stiff not to be called up. He has not done a great deal wrong and it must be very frustrating for him. I would say Symonds has come in because we lacked counter attacking ability in India. We had no ability to take the opposition on and IMO that is why they have gone back to Symonds.

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 45505

                        #26
                        Re: Andrew Symonds

                        DT, I gather that what you say is correct but I would still be playing a couple of batsman ahead of Symonds. India in India is far tougher that NZ over here.
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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #27
                          Re: Andrew Symonds

                          Originally posted by hujsh
                          The reasoning was something along the lines of he spent time against India and the West Indies solidifying his place in the team, so now he's available for selection he must be considered.


                          It took him that long getting comfortable in tests i wonder if he can re-adapt quickly enough.

                          I agree completely he doesn't deserve his spot, based on form. I would place him in the top 6 Aussie batsmen for ability though.
                          Definitely not amongst top 6 batsmen for ability.

                          Good for a lower-order pinch-hitting role, and a (potentially) brilliant and athletic all-round cricketer, but definitely not top 6 best batsmen. Can think of at least ten guys not even in the Test squad ahead of him in terms of pure batting alone.

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                          • hujsh
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 11960

                            #28
                            Re: Andrew Symonds

                            Originally posted by Lantern
                            Definitely not amongst top 6 batsmen for ability.

                            Good for a lower-order pinch-hitting role, and a (potentially) brilliant and athletic all-round cricketer, but definitely not top 6 best batsmen. Can think of at least ten guys not even in the Test squad ahead of him in terms of pure batting alone.
                            Well who are yours then?

                            I'd have

                            Haydos
                            Katich
                            Ponting
                            M Huss
                            Clarke
                            Symonds

                            As the top 6.

                            (abiltiy=run scoring not natural talent)

                            Don't forget how good he was after that Boxing Day Test. Best batsman against India in the series.
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                            • Go_Dogs
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 10246

                              #29
                              Re: Andrew Symonds

                              Looked ok last night. Was actually a pretty enjoyable game to watch.
                              Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                              • hujsh
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 11960

                                #30
                                Re: Andrew Symonds

                                Originally posted by Griffen#16
                                Looked ok last night. Was actually a pretty enjoyable game to watch.
                                Found it hard to get into. I'm wanting (for example) Cullen to get a wicket but want Symonds and Hussey to score quick runs too. There has to be someone to hate.
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