Andrew Symonds

[lemmon]

Re: Andrew Symonds

Poor form from the selectors IMO, doubt Clark will miss so Watson is left out. Watson was one of our more consistent performers in India and doesnt deserve to be shafted for someone who has done nothing for the bulls. I wouldnt play Symonds again untill he makes some run or Watson fails.

[hujsh]

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Poor form from the selectors IMO, doubt Clark will miss so Watson is left out. Watson was one of our more consistent performers in India and doesnt deserve to be shafted for someone who has done nothing for the bulls. I wouldnt play Symonds again untill he makes some run or Watson fails.

For the test? I think Symonds will only play if Clarke is sick still.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Andrew Symonds

For the test? I think Symonds will play if Clarke is sick still.

Of course he will.

80 runs @ 13.3 should be good enough to make the test team.


It's a disgrace.

Hodge is averaging over 50 and has made 2 100's in one dayers as well.

[hujsh]

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Of course he will.

80 runs @ 13.3 should be good enough to make the test team.


It's a disgrace.

Hodge is averaging over 50 and has made 2 100's in one dayers as well.

Forget Hodge. He's gone. I'm disappointed in some ways Symonds is back as well but bringing more 33 year olds is not a solution that can last much longer.

I'd also rather see D.Hussey or Cam White get a shot.

[Mantis]

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Forget Hodge. He's gone. I'm disappointed in some ways Symonds is back as well but bringing more 33 year olds is not a solution that can last much longer.

I'd also rather see D.Hussey or Cam White get a shot.

Why?

He had one.

[hujsh]

Re: Andrew Symonds

Why?

They refuse to pick him and at 33 how long would he have left anyway.

He had one.

I've taken it as a formality he will be dropped for a bowler.
I believe he could fill the spot at 5-6.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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They refuse to pick him and at 33 how long would he have left anyway.

We are talking about our test team, not an AFL side with limited lists and a draft process to worry about.

You pick your best team, right now. Kids can learn their craft playing shield cricket and then give them their chance when they've earnt it.

[hujsh]

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We are talking about our test team, not an AFL side with limited lists and a draft process to worry about.

You pick your best team, right now. Kids can learn their craft playing shield cricket and then give them their chance when they've earnt it.

Can we continue to bring in these guys though? If we rebuild a team why not make one that won't need rebuilding in 2-3 years time? We took a chance on Krezja and found someone. Now we might have a bowler with experience in India next time we travel there. When Ponting Hussey Lee Symonds Clark Hayden and Katich are gone (all 32 or over IIRC) Would you replace them with guys who are 33 at the time? Against NZ why not give experience to someone else? Pommers for example.

By bringing in players 27 or under we have a chance of some stability in the lineup not just now but in the future.

For example even as well as Katich has done he hasn't altered the course of a test match. Without him all the results would have most likely remained the same. If we'd played Marsh we may have an opener to be in charge for 5 years form permiting. Now we have two guys who in two years most likely won't be there leaving us with 2 new openers at the same time.

Just my view.

[lemmon]

Re: Andrew Symonds

For the test? I think Symonds will only play if Clarke is sick still.

Was refering to Stuart, just judging by the last test in India he seemed out of favour, cant see us going in with just the three bowlers though.

[hujsh]

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Was refering to Stuart, just judging by the last test in India he seemed out of favour, cant see us going in with just the three bowlers though.

I know. I think Symonds is there as cover for Clarke and Watson will play. They've been trying to get Watson in the team for ages and doubt they'd get get rid of him now

[dog town]

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If they drop Watson the whole selection panel should be dumped. They have stuck with him through all his injury woes and to jump off now would mean i was all for nothing. He is one of the only guys who showed a bit of aggression with the ball and his batting will continue to improve. His numbers might not be great but he gets better all the time. He is certainly not a natural number 6 but he is improving in that role.

I think long term he may be able to push up towards number 4 in the line up. Technically he is pretty good he just has to feel more comfortable in his technique. He can be almost too rigid and mechanical in his batting at times. A good technique is the elimination of risk in your play and there is no set way to go about it. Everybody is suited to different things and he might find once he loosens up a bit he wont find himself on the end of so many good deliveries.

Hodge, Pomersbach, Marsh and maybe David Hussey can consider themselves very unlucky if Symonds plays as a batsmen in place of Clarke. The last 3 offer the middle order aggression I thought we lacked in India and the first one is the most unlucky player since Boof was slaying attacks all over the place. Marsh and Pommers will play for Australia at some stage. Hodge has age against him now which must be all the more frustrating for him. At the top of his game now and his form was already pretty irresistable.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Andrew Symonds

Can we continue to bring in these guys though? If we rebuild a team why not make one that won't need rebuilding in 2-3 years time? We took a chance on Krezja and found someone. Now we might have a bowler with experience in India next time we travel there. When Ponting Hussey Lee Symonds Clark Hayden and Katich are gone (all 32 or over IIRC) Would you replace them with guys who are 33 at the time? Against NZ why not give experience to someone else? Pommers for example.

By bringing in players 27 or under we have a chance of some stability in the lineup not just now but in the future.

For example even as well as Katich has done he hasn't altered the course of a test match. Without him all the results would have most likely remained the same. If we'd played Marsh we may have an opener to be in charge for 5 years form permiting. Now we have two guys who in two years most likely won't be there leaving us with 2 new openers at the same time.

Just my view.

You don't need to develop the test side.

You have 6 teams competing in the best domestic competition in the world that are developing your players. All you have to do is pick the best ones.

It's not like football where you have to learn where your teammate leads to or which foot they kick with - you're in the team, when that bloke bowls it, you hit it. The only other thing your teammates need to learn about you is whether you like orange or lemon cordial at drinks.

[GVGjr]

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I think if the selectors were fair dinkum then they would have added Marsh to squad and if Clarke didn't make it move Katich to number 5 and open with Marsh.

If they play Watson as the 4th bowler then the have learned nothing. Symonds might very well come in and peel off a 100 but I still think he shouldn't be playing. Let him knock up a couple of scores for the Bulls first.

[hujsh]

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You don't need to develop the test side.

You have 6 teams competing in the best domestic competition in the world that are developing your players. All you have to do is pick the best ones.

It's not like football where you have to learn where your teammate leads to or which foot they kick with - you're in the team, when that bloke bowls it, you hit it. The only other thing your teammates need to learn about you is whether you like orange or lemon cordial at drinks.

But to constantly pick players who are so old is extremely short sighted. Not every mature player will be like Stuart Clark and take 5 in his first innings. Many players take time (like Roy).

Then when we travel we have a squad of players who haven't played a test in that country before, which Shield cricket most likely won't prepare you for.

[Mantis]

Re: Andrew Symonds

I think if the selectors were fair dinkum then they would have added Marsh to squad and if Clarke didn't make it move Katich to number 5 and open with Marsh.

What has Marsh done at SS level to deserve this promotion?